MUMBAI controversy

[jithudigitised]

North-South-East-West are words to define directions, dnt let them divide the unity of our Great Nation.
Harryneopotter.

thats a nice line....

 

[esumitkumar]

after reading this thread i felt very sad..is it the same praka ?????..who had posted a thread " share ur most loved asha rafi etc old songs " ..praka was that really YOU ?????
........i m just shocked !!!!

also this thread is gng nowhere ..started off as discussion on raj thackeray's comments and going on north-south fight !

i have many south indian frnds who know hindi and it feels nice talking to them in hindi..in fact i myself learned some tamil words......but i never enforce my SI frnds to talk in hindi...

if u r comfortable to talk in english ..then its good..wats the prob....language is a medium to bridge the gap b/w two humans not to open a war ...

i really feel again and again that this diversity in india is the root cause of all probs ........

praka ..do u ans/ask only SI digitians ....or do i ans/ask only NI digitians query ? ........when we are so united as digitians why are we fighting as north indian & south indian ?????

just remember we are all humans..each one has 2 eyes,2 ears ,one nose etc ..when GOD hasnt differentiated us..who are we ppl to discriminate against each other ?

PEACE
Sumit

 

[praka123]

I am not against anyone.and I love hearing music be it Hindi,Arabic or Pop.
also,I will comfort my NI friends by talking to them in Hindi in reality.

But what I am against is that this hidden mentality of most NI that Hindi must be enforced to every non-hindi speakers.this is Sin.

There are parts of India who are not having any cultural similarity with Hindians.how can this hindians expect everyone should talk/learn hindi?
it is a personal choice whether someone wants to learn a lang or not.

English is the language the world prefers for communication.we(SI) dont need to be enforced a 2nd language to be learned to contact other parts of HIndia.why dont gov make it mandatory the English language?
It is not native.and English were enemies for most of NI.still what is wrong with the Language?English is fine.and it serves for the communication gap in universe.

I feel,in India we should have this thing going:
grow ur native language be it Hindi,Marathi,Punjabi,tamil or Malayalam in your state.learn "simple English" to contact with the world.what is wrong?
infact employments comes in India esp South India because of the knowledge of English language.else china must have been the preferred location.even Chinese,the most alienated ppl when considering learning English makes European teachers teach them English esp for the near Olympics.
World is changing.no it is not as earlier like deutch,francais are not willing to talk in english.now they too are learning English(my uncle is there in germany).
Our Hindians too should consider a change.may be they should learn from Bangalore.a random local kannadiga there will be able to talk in English,Hindi,Tamil,Telegu,Marathi(hardly).
now do u Hindians know how many languages Hindi?different Hindi's?
kariboli?Mumbaiyya Hindi,Dehli Hindi ?Is that a learning?why dont u make it a habit to talk in English?
Even I can see some +ve signs as learn English in 30 days in hindi etc selling in TV shops to Hindians. good Luck!
and I am personally not against any Hindi speaking people except for their reluctness to accept the multi-ethnicity of India and the need for use of English .

 

[jithudigitised]

just remember we are all humans..each one has 2 eyes,2 ears ,one nose etc ..
PEACE
Sumit

but different brainssss...hehe

 

[iMav]

This goes out to all those who are bull$hitting about hindi.

HINDI IS NOT, let me repeat, NOT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE OF INDIA.

In fact, it is one of the 22 official languages of INDIA. Hence imposing HINDI on non-hindi speaking people is UNACCEPTABLE.

as said:

hindi is not our national language we have so many languages rationally i accept that statement

hockey is not our national sport (shouldv been cricket but wth) we play s many other sports

peacock is not our national bird we have so many other birds

jana gana mana is not our national song we sing so many songs

delhi is not our capital we have 3 other metropolitans

so i humbly advice the north indians to equally respect the south language and its cultures......

we are not the ones calling south indian languages by names unlike u guys calling hindi as kindi or watever i said u guys need to respect hindi but u dont

if you guys go by hindi is spoken by majority so learn hindi....then why dont you guys learn english as it is the one most spoken in world ....and also we can communicate it...

what are we doing now

and regarding bollywood....there is more people(audiences) and more $$$ involved there so you can create better movies....but with s much smaller reach we are able to produce almost your equal quality......8)

y are south indians poor and money comes with quality so

if you care comparing bollywood to south..then i can compare hollywood to yours.....yours will bite the dust completely

talk with in the nation

how can I get u hindi boys understand that India is not Hindia.dont expect any one in India to follow Hindi as if some morons made "hindi" as national language.

we are Hindustan hindustan hindustan

anyone learning any language out of passion is OK;but getting this enforced is like people in Rajasthan from tomorrow should speak only chinese as chinese is the national language

u are fine with telling or rather enforcing english on us but have a problem with hindi - hypocrite

I am feeling that south indians those who still dont support hindi after this many facts can be called "brainless" and "certified cracks"

 

[praka123]

@imav:ur a big (...) thing!get urself to nimhans!

 

[prasad_den]

wow... wow..!! I really held most people here in high esteem.. Its a pity you are so narrow minded...! You resort to bashing when you cannot seem to say anything more than "hindi is our national language"

y are south indians poor and money comes with quality so

ha ha ha... that was the funniest quote I ever heard.

All this thread does is sow malice and hatred within ourselves...! Something that people like raj thackeray want to really do for political gains.. Had he seen this thread, I'm sure he'd have been happy.. very happy...! Seems like we cannot even have an educated discussion amongst orselves without flaming and bashing others... When educated people here are so gullible, I wonder how much effort it'd take to instigate evil in an illiterate Indian. I'm ashamed for all of you people who cannot accommodate others.. and that includes hindi speaking and non-hindi-speaking people too..!

 

[esumitkumar]

But what I am against is that this hidden mentality of most NI that Hindi must be enforced to every non-hindi speakers

very wrong..no educated person tries to impose ur culture if he/she is sensible enough ..

English is the language the world prefers for communication

have u wondered why eng is that one lang ? cuz large parts of world (africa,asia,america etc) were captured by british......and they imposed english.and still US is the powerhouse of the world .....u r seeing sub prime ..how its affecting IT jobs n export sector....and US official language is english..if germany had won in WWII ..then german wud be all over world ..and u must be telling all of us to communicate u in german

infact employments comes in India esp South India because of the knowledge of English language

again wrong..eng is only one factor..abundance of engg colleges ....and better policies of state govts in promoting their states ...SEZ etc play a major role ..i appreciate south india for that ..instead i say south is so progressive ..y not north ....but here politicians are so vote bank driven that they see their own interest not of their state

Our Hindians too should consider a change.may be they should learn from Bangalore.a random local kannadiga there will be able to talk in English,Hindi,Tamil,Telegu,Marathi(hardly).

now u r imposing english praka..thats not gud..every citizen in this country has a right to live by his choice ..not by some communist or dictator regime ...i dont know why u r so much supporting english.........english will remain a 2nd language to us as we r not british or american.....our mother tongue will always be first be it hindi , malyalam, telugu,urdu,kannada or tamil etc

but different brainssss...hehe

hahahaha..very true

 

[jithudigitised]

.english will remain a 2nd language to us as we r not british or american.....our mother tongue will always be first be it hindi , malyalam, telugu,urdu,kannada or tamil etc

This is what we all are trying to say ...but may be each one says it in their own way...

i think praka is also trying to say this but his way of presenting the point may not be suitable to others..maybe..

 

[iMav]

i really love the fact our education system has:

1. english - 1st language
2. hindi - 2nd language
3. state lanuage - 3rd language

english - world stage
hindi - country level
state language - local

as simple as that

now speaking rationally leaving all the bull sh1t aside

The word Hindī is of Persian origin and literally means "Indian",

wat say now lets change the name or our country from india to dravid (dravidian)

 

[drgrudge]

^^
You are wrong. We are choose whatever language for any level in CBSE. For TN State board, Tamil is compulsory, either you can learn as 1/2/3 language.

 

[prasad_den]

1. english - 1st language
2. hindi - 2nd language
3. state lanuage - 3rd language

You think this happens everywhere...?? Open your eyes.. how many schools in rural india teach english as the first language..? If that was true, there would be english speaking population everywhere. I work as a lecturer in a college, and I find professional students here who can't understand a line in english. People here do most of their education only in hindi..
And in many places it is english first, and regional language next, with hindi or sanskrit as the third option..

Originally Posted by wikipedia
The word Hindī is of Persian origin and literally means "Indian",

wat say now lets change the name or our country from india to dravid (dravidian)

Better still, why don't you start calling us non-hindi speaking people as non-Indians..! Sounds like you'd love to that.

 

[iMav]

You think this happens everywhere...?? Open your eyes.. how many schools in rural india teach english as the first language..? If that was true, there would be english speaking population everywhere. I work as a lecturer in a college, and I find professional students here who can't understand a line in english. People here do most of their education only in hindi..
And in many places it is english first, and regional language next, with hindi or sanskrit as the third option..

dont know and i said that i like something about my education system ssc board; cbse both have tht system here in mumbai atleast - english first language; hindi second and marathi third

Better still, why don't you start calling us non-hindi speaking people as non-Indians..! Sounds like you'd love to that.

im not the 1 who has a problem with hindi being considered as our national/officiial language its u guys who makes stupid statements like we have so many languages how can 1 language be official/national the same as why is jana gana mana as our national song we sing so many songs

we are indians we should learn to respect another person's language i have not dis-respected any other language or said something about another language unlike u guys and i had pointed that out earlier but no ud rather ignore it coz u get pwned by that

hindi is a more known language the possibility of people understanding hindi in any part of india is more than they understanding any other regional language (im not talking abt fluently talking or writing but conversing)

 

[praka123]

^I remember the poor frog in a pond
get ur facts corrected-Hindi is NOT at all understood by a majority of population in India.

let Hindi be limited to ur 5 states.that's it.and bombay is not India.come here south and get urself corrected.it is the hindi chauvinism that ur showing.pathetic

 

[iMav]

let Hindi be limited to ur 5 states.that's it.and bombay is not India.come here south and get urself corrected.it is the hindi chauvinism that ur showing.pathetic

my dad was in south 2 weeks ago and had no problem in conversing in hindi the pond is what ur living in; hindi is the language second to chinese even on the internet thrs a difference in understanding and speaking/conversing

 

[praka123]

^ur blind.Hindi is not needed by us.because some id!ots in north made hindi as national language wont vouch that everyone in India is gonna accept that.

I want Patiala to be forced to learn Tamil;can I?
the same goes true for South too .I have tried my best in getting u hardcore hindi fanatics corrected.still u feel like enforcing,better we should divide this country to South India and Hindia.

I feel for the betterment of South India,It needs to be separated from North-but not from India.make some Visa system-so that Hindians should be made sure they pass English exam before coming down south,else this hindi chauvinists will make the life hard for us.

unemployed,uneducated rascals from north india are already doing their rounds in my town.I hate that!

 

[jithudigitised]

coool dude ...coool..

 

[iMav]

ohk so u want to divide ourselves for not learning a language u feel that dividing the nation is much better for the country than u guys simply learning another langugae ...

i dont like marathi but i live in maharashtra its a rule i have to learn i learn it baat khattam

i learn hindi; english and a regional language so why is it so freaking difficult for u to learn english; hindi and a regional language are u guys so freaking dumb that a language like hindi u wont understand; if i decided to move to south i will definitely learn the regional language and that is the reason why hindi=india=hindustan has hindi as an *official* language so that a south indian goes to north he can communicate; a north indian goes to south he can communicate; east and west can also communicate hindi

please understand hindi is considered as a medium so that any 1 from any part of the nation can communicate with others like english is to the world; hindi is to india

international; national; regional thats it why is it so fugging difficult for u to learn hindi i will teach u hindi dont worry free of cost i will teach u hindi ... bloody hell goobi has started understanding/typing hindi

and also forget indians u will find more foreigners saying namaste as compared to vanakam hindi words have made their way into international dictionaries. hindi is no longer restricted to certain parts of india but is now an international language

fyi chinese; english and hindi are considered to be the major internet languages

u know what jeshtha u are talking like raj thackray when u say that unemployed north indians are walking around in ur town so be careful .... this is for every1 to see

 

[gary4gar]

^ur blind.Hindi is not needed by us.because some id!ots in north made hindi as national language wont vouch that everyone in India is gonna accept that.

I want Patiala to be forced to learn Tamil;can I?
the same goes true for South too .I have tried my best in getting u hardcore hindi fanatics corrected.still u feel like enforcing,better we should divide this country to South India and Hindia.

I feel for the betterment of South India,It needs to be separated from North-but not from India.make some Visa system-so that Hindians should be made sure they pass English exam before coming down south,else this hindi chauvinists will make the life hard for us.

unemployed,uneducated rascals from north india are already doing their rounds in my town.I hate that!

Buddy, Please read your pasts posts in this thread, you do not have any more points to say, just vomiting the same point over & over.



Its kind of behavior happens when, a person has fear of losing.
we have a desi term for it, but i would not say that as again you would say we are imposing you to learn Hindi

okay, lemme give you a start again

This a free country, which has two official languages & 22 scheduled languages . you are free to speak any language even out of those 24langages, who is forcing you. but to be widely accepted & understood today you have to choose any from the two official languages. if you choose English none has a problem, if someone choose Hindi, why should you have a problem.

also for your information, at the time of independence, the only language, which was understood by masses was Hindi, offcouse this has changed now, i too agree thats why English has been given the status of a Official language.

Buddy , you should know that by calling forefathers of nations by cheap words( i would not like to repeat) & also the addresing forum members by such names, shows your state of mind, i pity at it.

Whom you are abusing? huh
The forefathers of nation?
they are same becuase of whom you got independence.
its because of them, you live in such a nation that you have the right to vomit what you fell whether its correct or not.

and tell me, in which culture in the world justifies abusing your own father?

Man act mature, don't let such small things like language come into the way to progress of India as a country as a whole.

Now i won't be surprised if you call me rascal, or something more cheap, it is more or less expected from you.

I lastly wanted to say, Please Keep this clean

 

[iMav]

@gary: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequetly explained by stupidity