MohanDas Gandhi was the one who brought us freedom??

[cynosure]

I dont know how much true is the story which I am going to present. But this was told to me by a friend of mine who lives in Allahabad, the same city in which Chandrashekhar Azad commited suicide. The same place nowdays is called "shaheed park" and its located not far away from the residence of Pandit Nehru; " Anand Bhawan". The story was told to my friend by an old watchman of anand bhawan.

When the police was after Azad, he went to Nehru's house and asked for his help. But Nehru asked Azad to go out of his house as the former never wanted police to enter his house. He therefore, sent chandrashekar azad out of his house to the streets outside. It was that time when Azad went to the park and commited suicide (with the last bullet of his gun).

I dont know how much truth is there in the story and I do not guarantee about any facts but if it is to be believed, then its worth a tale.

 

[The Outsider]

gandhi and nehru were "politicians", i think that sums it up

 

[narangz]

^^
+1

 

[praka123]

but...M K Gandhi -his ideologies are still respected(ahimsa esp) around the world.

 

[nightcrawler]

To an extent Gandhi gave British some trouble. But giving him full credit for the independence was non-sense. The most influential factor was world war II obviously so in effect Hitler is responsible for India's independence .
People like Gandhi and Nehru were shrewd politicians. Gandhi should not be given so much credit that he gets. It is the current set of politicians that have projected him as a great national icon and a hero for their peronal agendas. I would not say that what Godse did was correct but Gandhi was definetely not the Hero that he is projected to be. Infact all the other people get masked because of him.
It is said that the people who enjoy the credit of any deed are not really the people who necessarily do the deed,
Anyways I have respect for him.

 

[praka123]

It is the current set of politicians that have projected him as a great national icon and a hero for their peronal agendas

It is us who are studying Gandhi's life in young classes.for me atleast i remember "memoirs of gandhi" which i had studied in 8th or so.

 

[nightcrawler]

Exactly. Thats the point, I mean why are we told about Gandhi again and again and again when there are other Historic Events happening in the world as well. Why is not it being changed? If you personally wish to study more about Gandhi that is fine but I for one remember here in Mumbai from standard 3rd I think or 4th to 10 we have had 3 or 4 encounters of Gandhi and 'His Freedom Struggle' when we could have studied more recent events in History or other events for example Chinese Civ or American Independence or Russian Civil War in more details.

 

[praka123]

even better the reality behind "Moplah rebellion,wagon tragedy" or "Khilafath Movement" -in kerala how many hindu's are looted and killed and converted
^^^we are taught in kerala that these are all "freedom struggles" but the reality is killing our own people.why cant the gov shows the power to get reality in history for kids
sry if it is offtopic.kids are learning wrong info. britishers are enemy for a particular area and for some religion.but in Travancore-Cochin states atleast it was british who saved from satanic ,Hyder ali,tippu from looting and conversion which they did in malabar also lot of developments and english education.i am not justifying british.

 

[nightcrawler]

It all comes down to the politicans and their wants and vote bank politics. This selective masking of history, glorifying certain things which are not necessary and not giving out the truth or falsification of truth or withholdng some information. It is for the people to see this things but most of the times politicans are successful in their motives and people become easily blinded. I hope that exposure to Internet opens people's eyes to real truth. Although Internet has been used to exploit and not necessarily everything on Internet and Wikipedia is true.

 

[krazzy]

I had read a book written on the life of Nathuram Godse. It was written such that it felt like his autobiography. In that book it was written how he grew up and feelings for his country developed in him. And then when he came to know of Gandhi. There are some facts in that book that you'll never hear any where. He tells that he respected Gandhi for all the good he done. But he also knew that if Gandhi continued, he'll do more harm than good. Therefore he thought, to save his country, he must take some action and decided to kill gandhi. Also throughout the book, he referred to Gandhi's murder as 'Gandhi Vadh'. When you kill someone bad for a good reason and for everyones benefit, its called 'Vadh' in hindi/marathi.

He also mentiones, that although Gandhi wore a dhoti saying many people in india have no money for clothes, he also had a goat outside his house to get fresh goat milk which he had everyday with various expensive dry fruits, like almonds, etc. He also had a daily oil massage for his body. He also lead a pretty lavish life. All this was seen by Nathuram by his own eyes.

The biggest eye opener that i read in the book, the one which has been taught in school since ages, was the fact that Gandhi said "Hey Ram" before dying. Nathuram said that he was a few feet away when he died and if Gandhi had indeed said anything of that sort, he would've been the first to hear. But he said the Gandhi only made small sound (he had described the sound in the book, however i do not remember it) and then collapsed. It was the congress people who then spread the idea that Gandhi said "Hey Ram".

There are several such dirty secrets of our so-called Father of our nation in the book, however i do not remember it. Reading it did nothing else but fill me with hatred for Gandhi, for what he really was and what he was made out to be. The book was in Marathi named 'Sagara Agasti Alaa'. If anyone of you can read marathi, i definitely recommend you read this book. Its definitely an eye opener.

 

[naveen_reloaded]

i think there are many people behind the freedom of india..
i think it dates back even b4 gandhi have started his fight..

i think everybody should be respected equally..
its just like we like sachin and forget about rp singh....

 

[Cyrus_the_virus]

^^ Reported!

 

[ssdivisiongermany1933]

heil Hitler ///

Ein riech , ein voila , ein fuhrer

 

[naveen_reloaded]

@ $$Gururaj$$

hope u control ur language here in this forum.. coz mods are very strict..especially the fat being and raboo

anyway reported ur prev post..

 

[shantanu]

$$gururaj$$ : banned for a month. i warned you.. i tried to clean up your mess , but you wont listen.. come back after a month and learn how to behave..

 

[fun2sh]

Nehru and Gandhi two biggest villains of India , made mess of this country ...

then whom do u consider the biggest hero LALLU PRASAD YADAV

and any how why to abuse gandhi???? no1 is perfect n 100% gud. only our views should be towards the goodness of the person. so i say instead of discreditin gandhi for everythin u should ask HOW MUCH HAV WE LEARNED GOOD FROM HIM AND HAS ANY1 OF US DONE ANY THING GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY(atleast for selfish reasons as some1 here says that gandhi was a POLITICIAN)

we just believe wat others say about gandhi but has ANY ONE OF US DONE ATLEAST A GOD THING LIKE HIM.

 

[nvidia]

Gandhi led us to get freedom. That doesnt mean that all the credit must go to him.
There were a lot of guys who helped.

We are not worthy to comment on these guys...

 

[Who]

I think no one in this forum has the right to judge Gandhi , i mean you can say fraud to Mr.Gandhi if you want but have you done more one good things for the country than Gandhi ?, No actually no one has done even one good thing for the country still we criticize others, yeah Gandhi was a villan ok so what are you ? A Hero ? I think we need to change ourselves the world will change by itself , because the world is actually like the way we see it.


Edit : also some one mention that only leaders get acknowledged , my answer to him is that in this world only the one who showed us the way & the one who lead us the way are acknowledged , the followers are always ignored.

E.g when workers build buildings , do they get acknowledged for their work actually no one will remember their names & they will forgotten but Architect's name won't be forgotten because it was his ideas of building the building.

 

[amol48]

^^^
I might have done something surely if I had been born at that time
And I don't think even Gandhi could do anything in TODAY'S INDIA, even if he tried to. There's a lot of difference between India 60yrs ago and now.. Politicians have have totally $ucked our country.

 

[Garbage]

Surely, I did "SOMETHING" for India.

* I never thought that INDIA must be partitioned.
* I never differentiated between Ram and Allah.
* I will never say "Hey RAM" while dieing and still people should call me greatest religion neutral !!

And again from one drama based on Nathuram Godase's life, he asked on question, "why u think, he said 'Hey RAM' when all says HE is a religion neutral" ?