mid size casual gaming intel based rig <= 40k

aditya_

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casual gaming rig @45k

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?
Ans: online games Ragnarok/Warcraft/Guildwars2. Apps Unreal game engine/Adobe Flash Flash CS5/ Linux Dual boot,basic programming softwares.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: within 40k including cost of windows 7 software.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: NO.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: windows7 dual boot with ubuntu

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1 TB .

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: My priority is a 24 inch Monitor included in the cost of the configuration.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Dont need and want, Speakers, CD /Rom,High end graphics Cards,

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: within 20 days. should i wait if there is going to be a decrease in prices after this financial year?/quarter?

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:Will be done by M E

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Hyderabad , Andhra Pradesh. Mostly Looking to buy where ever it is cheaper/reliable,
I do buy stuff from online shops when i have found them to be cheaper .

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
I have 3 Components essentially needed.
1. intel i3 processor - cost ? -- can i get better processor and mobo in config < 40k
2. 24 Inch LCD monitor - 11k? or LED monitor of 24 inch if it is nearby by 11k.
3. windows 7 - cost?
 
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whitestar_999

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processor|core i5 2400|10000
motherboard|intel DH67CLB3|5500
ram|1*4gb corsair 1333|1100
hard disk|1tb seagate/WD|5000
graphics card|radeon 5670 512mb|4200
cabinet|coolermaster elite 310|1600
monitor|benq G2222HDL|7500
ups|intex 1kva|1800
os|win 7 home premium|6200

total:42900

i3 2100 costs ~6000 but it is a dual core processor & at this budget one should get a 4core processor.viewsonic monitors are not recommended based on experience of some members here.benq model is very good & has great reviews.AMD based config is also a good option.
 
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aditya_

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benq G2222HDL is 21.5 inch
My priority is 24 inch LCD/LED monitor and the rest all can be adjusted to accommodate that.
also aren't 1gb graphics cards cheap these days? 2k-4k?
 

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also aren't 1gb graphics cards cheap these days? 2k-4k?

Basic information regarding graphic cards for newbies. read.

Will nVidia 7300 GT 1 GB be faster than AMD HD 2600 XT 256 MB or nVidia 7600GT 256 MB??
NO. 7300 GT is simply not fast enough to make use of that 1GB video memory. 7600GT and HD 2600 XT are much faster despite having only 256 MB of video memory. Like I told you above, the only way to judge performance of a graphic card is by looking at FPS numbers delivered by them in games. For this, you need to read reviews and research yourself.
(Note: The cards mentioned in this question are end-of-line and very old. Don't think these are good cards in 2011)

i have quoted a para. this is the reason.
 
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aditya_

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ok whats a better 24 inch LCD/LED monitor i can get. I want a big screen for my new system :)
@sam
ok i didnt know that it was radeon 5670 sapphire 512mb ddr5
 

whitestar_999

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frankly speaking if picture quality is your main concern then you should not even consider a monitor.a 32" LCD TV(ips/pva panel)from something like samsung series 5 or above is far better than any pc monitor.generally 22" is the point at which you get good picture quality for the price as size increases to cut costs manufacturers usually compromise on panel quality.if size is your only concern then i think 24" monitors are available for ~11000.but at this price you have to drop i5 & either get i3 dual core or amd 4 core(preferred).
 

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ok whats a better 24 inch LCD/LED monitor i can get. I want a big screen for my new system :)
@sam
ok i didnt know that it was radeon 5670 sapphire 512mb ddr5

Check this out - Buy Dell 24 Inch Full HD WideScreen LED Monitor (ST2420L) at Best Price in India - Also find Specifications, Photos, Features & Reviews

BTW you must get a decent graphics card to run stuff without lags on a 24".
 
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aditya_

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@whitestar
what is the cost of that 32" LCD tv ? . Reason I waned Big monitor is i need to have lot of space to see a major portion of code / lot of sub /tools/windows in a programming IDE.
is amd 4 core > i3 dual core?
In terms of performance. I hear i3 (sandybridge start series) was by far outperforming any amd.
@RiGOD
wow that monitor is looking awesome man.
I dont want lags.what do you suggest in terms of the config ?
 

whitestar_999

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Reason I waned Big monitor is i need to have lot of space to see a major portion of code / lot of sub /tools/windows in a programming IDE.
then you don't need a 32" LCD TV.get any cheap 24" monitor from a good brand like dell,benq,lg,samsung,AOC etc.programmers don't need a ips/pva quality lcd as these are meant for those people who are quality conscious of the picture being displayed.lagging on a big monitor is related to gaming & no relation with daily usage tasks.
 

RiGOD

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BTW check out this configuration.


Component Make Price
CPU AMD Phenom II 965 6790
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-M78LMT-S2 2600
RAM Corsair DDR3 4 GB 1200
GPU Radeon HD5670 4050
Case Zebronics Bijli 1200
PSU FSP Saga II 400W 1900
Monitor Dell ST2420L 12600
HDD Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 5230
OS Windows 7 6200
TOTAL 41770

These are mostly the flipkart prices. So you'll get some discounts while buying locally I guess.

EDIT : @whitestar_999, appreciate the suggestion mate.
 
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whitestar_999

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Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 is an ancient mobo which should not be recommended to anyone now-a-days.Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P costs ~2500 & is a good mobo with AM3+ processor support too.
 
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aditya_

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then you don't need a 32" LCD TV.get any cheap 24" monitor from a good brand like dell,benq,lg,samsung,AOC etc.programmers don't need a ips/pva quality lcd as these are meant for those people who are quality conscious of the picture being displayed.lagging on a big monitor is related to gaming & no relation with daily usage tasks.
yes i know, I play Enough MMORPG's to know what lag means. I take it that the radeon 5670 512mb will be good enough to prevent any lag issues on a 24 inch monitor.

Amd Phenom 2 is competitor of i3 right?
Ive been told by people that i3 out performs amd phenom 2 in regards to gaming.

Tempted to try 2 benq G2222HDL Monitors with whitestar's first config.
 

whitestar_999

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core by core amd don't stand a chance against intel sandybridge architecture.core i3 is a competitor to phenom II x4(4 cores) as even a pentium G620 2.6GHz(sandybridge based pentium dual core)can beat any amd phenom dual core in general usage as well as gaming.4 cores of amd are suggested only because many believe newer games will be able to take advantage of more than 2 cores & at that time a 2 core processor might be a bottleneck to a good graphics card.so it is better for gamers to get a cheap amd 4 core & good graphics card.
*www.anandtech.com/show/4524/the-sandy-bridge-pentium-review-pentium-g850-g840-g620-g620t-tested/6
 
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aditya_

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Ive come up with this but it is not in budget. Where can i reduce costs keeping the processor ram and monitor. This is a pc from scratch. lets say i can make do with a 500 gb HD. Ive taken these off other configs based on RiGOD and Whitestar. Main thing is i dont know whats supported/compatible / cheaper alternative.
Component Make Price
Processor Intel Core i3-2100 Processor 6420
RAM Corsair DDR3 4 GB 1200
HDD 1tb seagate/WD 5000
cabinet coolermaster elite 310 1600
Keyboard & Mouse Logitech MK200 700
UPS Intex 1KVA 1800
Motherboard ASUS P8H61-M LX 3050
PSU Seasonic S12II-520 3770
GPU radeon 5670 512mb 4200
OS win 7 home premium 6200
Monitor Dell ST2420L 12600
Total 46540
 

whitestar_999

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you can get corsair cx430v2 for 2300 instead of seasonic 520w which is not required unless you go for at least a 8000-9000 graphics card.500gb hard disk costs around 3900 but for just 1000 extra you get double the space.try i3 prices locally as there is a good chance that i3 is available for ~6000 there.if you don't do serious photoshop(& no idea about unreal engine work)then all other usages can be handled easily by a pentium G620(~3500).
 
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aditya_

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@whitestar
isn't there a minimum power requirement for the i3 and its motherboard? i thought 500w + was it.
Don't think i can step below an i3 , for a new pc.
looks like time to do some saving up and postpone the buying date.
what if i really go all out and try and take 2 Monitor -Dell ST2420L .
will this affect the graphics card or power requirements??
 

whitestar_999

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even a good 400W psu is enough for i3+a card like 5670.try this:eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

running 2 monitors have no effect over psu because monitors are connected to ups.as for graphics card if you are planning on gaming warcraft/games simultaneously on 2 monitors(which is also not recommended by many) then i am not sure if 5670 will be able to handle it but for all other normal usages it should suffice.
I need help running World of warcraft on dual monitors - Crowdsourcing Questions & Answers
Multi-monitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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aditya_

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its more like running multiple clients on both the windows. never really thought about wow occupying both the screens.
 

whitestar_999

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in that case 5670 should be able to handle the load(i am assuming client means software applications like photoshop,programming IDE etc)
 
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