Microsoft urges Nokia to offer Windows Mobile devices

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@charan: VLC has already been ported to wince ? I have been out of touch with its developement team and forums for over an year. Guess I missed a lot.
 

gxsaurav

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agreed that linux mobile as of now) is still something like a hack on Linux kernel, as its minimum requirements equal the same of desktop/server linux. but that does not mean it has issues.

Wait....that is not an issue? *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif


@charan: VLC has already been ported to wince ? I have been out of touch with its developement team and forums for over an year. Guess I missed a lot.

That's why we say, first learn how to use Windows, then compare.

Software developed for linux desktop can often be run on linux mobiles.

No, compleately wrong. A linux app for desktop cannot run on a Linux mobile just like that without porting.

^still it is more probable to run a linux software for pc whose source is provided can be ported very easily to mobile platform.guess what win mobile cannot reach that

Holy...f****gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif. You mean to say it is easy to port an application made for Linux Desktop which runs usually on a much powerful CPU then mobile phone & lots of RAM (like 256 MB in Desktop while 16 MB in Mobile Phone).....wow, .net sux then, it is useless where there is a common code for both Desktop & WinMobile *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/10.gif
 

RCuber

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didja know that debian got ports for arm too?
read this :
*www.debian.org/ports/
if im not mistaken most of the midrange/highend phones use arm processors.

@charan: VLC has already been ported to wince ? I have been out of touch with its developement team and forums for over an year. Guess I missed a lot.

Is there any point in choosing a mobile if one application run on it or not?
If people dont get VLC player for a perticular mobile they will choose another player.
 

gxsaurav

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windows mobile may be attracting potential windows users as the ui looks the same :D isnt it?

Not only that, the integration with Windows Vista is awesome. Just connect the phone to your computer running Vista & Windows Mobile center automatically starts, syncs your outlook calender, mails, notes & To-Dos, Music Library with WMP11 & book marks to & fro with IE 7.

What else can u ask for? Umm...go ahead, do ask...I m sure it is already there.
 
Wait....that is not an issue? *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif




That's why we say, first learn how to use Windows, then compare.



No, compleately wrong. A linux app for desktop cannot run on a Linux mobile just like that without porting.



Holy...f****gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif. You mean to say it is easy to port an application made for Linux Desktop which runs usually on a much powerful CPU then mobile phone & lots of RAM (like 256 MB in Desktop while 16 MB in Mobile Phone).....wow, .net sux then, it is useless where there is a common code for both Desktop & WinMobile *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/10.gif
learn before posting.
Linux has ultra low system requirements, starting at 12 mb ram, and a 100mhz processor. Linux is NOT windows.

It never has stability issues on any platforms, because it is a highly modular and advanced kernel.

And yes, I checked that nightlie build. Its dated 2005, and it was given up since it was pointless trying to port a great app like VLC to some third rate platform, as that process was quite difficult, and efforts were better concentrated elsewere.

first learn how to use windows ? What do I gain by that ? Do I assure myself a virusless future ? Will I be proudly able to say that I am part of the great community who created an entire computing architectural revolution ? Will I be able to say that I am a UNIX admin now ? I tried to mess with windows for long enough. I don't want to start yet another flame war, but I think you have gone a bit too far in your trying to stuff windows up everybody's throat and pissing them off.

and you are actually trying to compare something new like .net that is not even fully usable, to well established time tested and proved stable platforms like linux, QT and GTK+ ? Honestly, you need to read linux a bit.

And as far as porting is concerned, the process of porting is terribly easy in UNIX compared to windows. Besides, I am talking not of QT and GTK+ apps, or even M$ Dot Net, but I speak of other smart user oriented stuff like ncurses.
 
@gx: linux users want terminal :))
thats what I meant by ncurses.
especially inresource critical embedded environments, terminal or text mode is very useful when coded to make it suffitiently interractive, because while in normal cases we may need a screencast of a bug, in terminal mode copy pasting the output to somebody is enough to explain what happened. :mrgreen:
 

RCuber

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thats what I meant by ncurses.
especially inresource critical embedded environments, terminal or text mode is very useful when coded to make it suffitiently interractive, because while in normal cases we may need a screencast of a bug, in terminal mode copy pasting the output to somebody is enough to explain what happened. :mrgreen:

You could just said .."Error reporting"...
 

gxsaurav

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learn before posting.
Linux has ultra low system requirements, starting at 12 mb ram, and a 100mhz processor.

And even at such low end system requirment it runs Gnome & KDE, & a full blown UI, *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif. Stop joking

It never has stability issues on any platforms, because it is a highly modular and advanced kernel.

Have a look at Windows CE core, which is made for mobile phones, Windows 7 Photon Core, & MinWin unlike Mobile Linux which as u said is a hack of desktop linux
And yes, I checked that nightlie build. Its dated 2005, and it was given up since it was pointless trying to port a great app like VLC to some third rate platform, as that process was quite difficult, and efforts were better concentrated elsewere.

It's there fault that they stopped porting, not the fault of Windows Mobile. RealPlayer, WMP anyone? Why Port VLC to a mobile phone, I mean....tell me a good reason plz.

first learn how to use windows ? What do I gain by that ? Do I assure myself a virusless future ? Will I be proudly able to say that I am part of the great community who created an entire computing architectural revolution ?

Yup.

and you are actually trying to compare something new like .net that is not even fully usable, to well established time tested and proved stable platforms like linux, QT and GTK+ ? Honestly, you need to read linux a bit.

Isn't it the other way arround Gautam ;)
 

infra_red_dude

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What a discussion! If I had the authority to give you all awards, I'd haf given you millions of dollars for entertaining all of us. 99% of the people posting in this thread (which includes the Lin boys and the Win boys) are simply speaking in air. I mean.. its so funny.. trying every possible way to turn it into a Lin vs. Win thread! Come on... take a break. This is the cellphone platform not your desktop to argue in the same way! A lot is different here.

Ontopic:
I'd really like to see few WM models from Nokia and SE. But I doubt there wud be many models coz Nokia now owns the Symbian S60 platform and SE Symbian UIQ.
 
What a discussion! If I had the authority to give you all awards, I'd haf given you millions of dollars for entertaining all of us. 99% of the people posting in this thread (which includes the Lin boys and the Win boys) are simply speaking in air. I mean.. its so funny.. trying every possible way to turn it into a Lin vs. Win thread! Come on... take a break. This is the cellphone platform not your desktop to argue in the same way! A lot is different here.

Ontopic:
I'd really like to see few WM models from Nokia and SE. But I doubt there wud be many models coz Nokia now owns the Symbian S60 platform and SE Symbian UIQ.
I got so pissed off trying to argue pointless things with saurav that I decided to give good old gandhigiri a look again. Sit and do nothing till the right time comes.

anyway, Ontoppic: Was it Nokia who bought TrollTech ?
 
I don't know about the others, but I want it :D



Yes
1. The award ? Sure. I would gladly accept it :D
2. Then that even more lowers the chance of them selling wince phones, as they wanted to get hold of Qtopia and produce something great. So until the trolltech investment pays off, they may not concider other investments.
 

Pathik

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UIQ is still not as good as Symbian s60. s60 is the best Mobile OS ever invented. Though it would be good to see Windows Mobile 7 on High end nokia fones esp Communicators.
 
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