Microsoft Preps to Unveil DirectX 11 Features

[Faun]

^Crytek was in deal with VISTA to lock it
and Warhead is another sh!t
look at the thread in random news posted recently about windows live.

 

[gxsaurav]

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Stop the name calling please. - goobi

 

[Garbage]

And iMav, u talked abt Linux... so...

There are Release Cycles of Ubuntu after every 6 months... Everyone knows that, there will be NEXT version after 6 months.

Now abt DX, is there Release Cycle of DX?? I mean, is there any thing, like next version of DX will be released after every year ??? If it is, then .....

Note: I don't wanted to be in debate... n u put Linux in middle... iMav

 

[gxsaurav]

Crytek made cryengine 2.0 in DX 10 and modified cryengine 1.0 used in Far Cry which was made in DX 9c. It was there decision which OS to support, U yourself saw the quality difference in Crysis with Direct X 10 & 9's engine, DX 10 was worth it.

 

[infra_red_dude]

Crytek made cryengine 2.0 in DX 10 and modified cryengine 1.0 used in Far Cry which was made in DX 9c. It was there decision which OS to support, U yourself saw the quality difference in Crysis with Direct X 10 & 9's engine, DX 10 was worth it.

Lets face it.. Crytek was paid to lock the highest setting on XP.. lets not close our eyes to the truth. Everyone knows this.

And personally I haf nothing against MS for working on DX11 Its a welcome move.

 

[gxsaurav]

DX has a life cycle of 4 years. If MS won't evolve features of DX then game devs & gamers will bash for not giving some feature or increse the quality. OpenGL is there too but how wany devs r using it compared to DX? Current GFX cards support openGL 2.1 but do v see any game for it yet?.. does that means Khronos group will stop evolving it?

 

[s18000rpm]

lets keep this thread to dx11 only

btw, i'm not bashing, i prefer vista on my desktop, but for gaming, its xp

alli'm saying is,its obvious that nvidia & ati have "some" "conc." with MS, then why dont i see a proper driver when vista came, why is there... this dx10 & dx10.1 compatibilty issue.

if you wanna keep your innovation, keep it for next gen crap or make it compatible with current gen. cards,.

look at nvidia, 9 series, then 2xx seriies

dont tel me to blame nvidua for tat, if nvidia makes cards , its cos of their business stuff wit MS.

even xbox360 has nvidia s

 

[gxsaurav]

Highest settings in Crysis need DirectX 10 to work which isn't available on XP so Y give it anyway. It will just result in game crashing as it will look for DX 10 runtime & won't find it in XP, in which case it will fallback to DX 9c path anyway.

 

[Faun]

^^how many times will I have to tell dear that highest graphical setting was locked intentionally for XP
Hackers unlocked that setting and found that there was no significant difference b/w dx9 and dx10

 

[praka123]

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losers? when did I bashed? pathetic try also reported for name calling .

 

[s18000rpm]

the real issue now is dx10 & dx10.1 + vista

 

[iMav]

You don't understand the point... When the previous version itself hasn't matured (as in, being fully adopted by the industry) then does it make sense to jump into the next version?

Jump to the next version? Dude! DX 11 is still at least 3 years away! Where is the jump? They are show casing what to expect 3 years from now. Is it wrong for a company to showcase it's development?

@imav, i serioudly ask u, does ms pay you to be so supporive for them?
no offence tho

NO. But, I wouldn't mind the extra cash. Ballmer, where are you?

i mean, com'on man, i hav a dx10 card laptop (hp dv9704), spent 64k for that, suppose dx10.1 games come, i'll have to buy new crap
doesnt make any sense even in a business man's tactics

I would not comment on this because MS has said you won't need new hardware. There was speculation that SP1 will have 10.1 but that too came out to be false, so I will not believe what people from Softpedia and other news sources have to say on this issue.

MS should have first got the drivers....readied & then released it.

MS released the betas and M1s long before the final version cam out. Why the drivers are an issue is something only hardware manufacturers can answer.

just look at vista & xp's life span. that itself proves MS screwed up real big f time.

Dude! You're making the same kind of comments that Garbage was making initially. Life span of XP was not 5 years because MS wanted it to be. It was not by choice but by compulsion. Vista was initally Longhorn which was completely different from what was launched, the compulsions I cannot comment on.

economy dx10.1 cards are not out yet & if you talk of dx11, its f stupidty, business wise.
& dont even start about dx10 games.

Again, should a company not talk of what it is working on? Is it wrong for SE to show case Xperia 6 months before launch?

afaik, crysis.
some say its a locked sh1t.

ms just "used" its prev. customer base, & it FAILED.

I think gx has answered this to great effect.

look at intel
they know how GOOD vista is, thats y they want to stay with xp.

Well, that is their company's choice. They see nothing worth to give their employees with Vista laptops, that's their decision. You don't like Vista, you should not have bought that laptop. You could have bought something else. And, if you don't get something else, it is not MS's fault but the laptop vendor's fault. Besides, contrary to popular belief most of these companies have and are shifting to Server 2008.

so bottom line = its too f early to announce the dev. of dx11

its only going to ruin their own business.

The timing is wrong and I have said so in my first post of this thread itself.

 

[infra_red_dude]

DX has a life cycle of 4 years. If MS won't evolve features of DX then game devs & gamers will bash for not giving some feature or increse the quality. OpenGL is there too but how wany devs r using it compared to DX? Current GFX cards support openGL 2.1 but do v see any game for it yet?.. does that means Khronos group will stop evolving it?

Plz keep the discussion centered to DirectX. Do not drag OpenGL into the picture and try to divert the topic. This wil only feed trolls that will lead to a war DX vs. OGL, Win vs. Lin and bullsh1t of the likes.

There is no doubt that for games on Windows, DX is the natural choice and it should be since its more suitable and capable on that platform

Jump to the next version? Dude! DX 11 is still at least 3 years away! Where is the jump? They are show casing what to expect 3 years from now. Is it wrong for a company to showcase it's development?

If you read all my posts, then I've never criticized MS for showcasing DX11. I've always said, its a welcome move Read before you comment.

 

[iMav]

You don't understand the point... When the previous version itself hasn't matured (as in, being fully adopted by the industry) then does it make sense to jump into the next version?

I read this post and asked you as to where is there a jump to new technology. MS has NOT jumped. THey are showcasing DX 11 and are not abandoning DX 10.

If you read all my posts, then I've never criticized MS for showcasing DX11. I've always said, its a welcome move Read before you comment.

 

[nvidia]

What has everyone got against DX11?

If its released by 2010 with Windows Seven then it'll take at least another year for decent games to come out for it. When DX10 came out, it took quite a while for DX10 games to come out.

Most games developed for DX10 work on DX9, you had the option to change hardware. We'll see the same thing happening here. If DX11 comes out by 2010, then good games for it will be available by 2011. Thats almost 3 years from now and why cry about it now? It wont outdate the hardware that we have now. Its the hardware industry that has to be blamed if you have to(i wont blame them either).

 

[infra_red_dude]

I read this post and asked you as to where is there a jump to new technology. MS has NOT jumped. THey are showcasing DX 11 and are not abandoning DX 10.

Galti ho gayi bhaiyaa...

 

[adithyagenius]

@s18000rpm
I agree with the fact that vista redcues fps in many games. But you should also realise that you should not use lame laptop as an excuse for incapability of hardware. 8600m gt score less than 7600gt in 3d mark 06. Firstly, never expecting high end gaming from laptops. Secnondly, low end hardware of newer generation is meant to play prev gen games at high settings. You should have waited for dx10 to mature.
Right now,
Vista is the gaming OS for very high end setups with dx10 and dx10.1
XP is the gaming os low- medium gaming setups with dx9

You are stuck with dx9 with low end setup on a crappy unupgradable laptop.

 

[infra_red_dude]

8600m gt score less than 7600gt in 3d mark 06.

Sure, it is. But how can you compare a mobile gfx chipset with a desktop one?

You should have waited for dx10 to mature.

Exactly, I guess thats what the whole rant is about and s10000rpm is upset about!

 

[adithyagenius]

Sure, it is. But how can you compare a mobile gfx chipset with a desktop one?

I was making a point - Don't expect laptop gfx to be as good desktop gfx and get misled that 8600m gt will work like 8600gt.

 

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ yep.. the point he was making, if I am correct is about DirectX compatibility. As to what I understand, he's not complaining about the performance issues but compatibility.