Microsoft admits failure on Vista patches

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anandk

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Microsoft admits failure on Vista patches
XP better patched that Vista after launch

"A Microsoft security executive has released data showing that, six months after shipping Windows Vista, his company has left more publicly disclosed Vista bugs unpatched than it did with Windows XP.

In total, Microsoft has patched 12 out of 27 disclosed Vista vulnerabilities in the six months after it first shipped last November. During XP's first six months, Microsoft's security team patched 36 out of 39 known bugs..."

*www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=9820
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
u know windows guys are not fanboys they post the truth and only thetruth unlike the mis-leading fanboys of other os
 

Sykora

I see right through you.
iMav said:
u know windows guys are not fanboys they post the truth and only thetruth unlike the mis-leading fanboys of other os

I find this kind of statement very irritating. Without calling myself a linux fanboy, I think it highly unfair to say that linux users (I don't know about Mac) aren't telling the truth, when the source code for all they do is out there. I don't want to start a fight like the other thread, it's just...I don't know -- irksome.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
Oh comon, stop the old bull**** that the source code is out there. How many consumers understand that code anyway?
 

Sykora

I see right through you.
It's the truth. It's certainly not the programmer's fault that they don't understand it.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
skyora why do i feel the presence of a guilty consience in this thread

PS if ur not a fanboy why are u irked by the statement unless of course things are otherwise
 

amitava82

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Guess who started the "fanboy" word in this thread? Actually there are some guys in this forum who starts provocative statements in the first place so that they could start a fight... Thats kinda fanboyish attitude and Trolling around..
 

gxsaurav

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Sykora said:
It's the truth. It's certainly not the programmer's fault that they don't understand it.

Just try to leave this philosophy behind. "You want a feature? Ok code that feature." Wow what a logic, i m not a developer but a consumar,...go tell this to a consumar that "You want a feature in some IM Client, well code it" achcha khsa sunaega woh wapas & will switch to WIndows or Mac.

amitava82 said:
Guess who started the "fanboy" word in this thread? Actually there are some guys in this forum who starts provocative statements in the first place so that they could start a fight... Thats kinda fanboyish attitude and Trolling around..

:Yawn: like that makes a difference for Linux users to try understanding the goods of Windows. They just won't. They have a philosophy set & can't look beyind that.

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infra_red_dude

Wire muncher!
oh just stop it you three!!! enough of this! imav, there was no need to make proactive statements and Sykora, there was no need to get irked!!! all the threads are starting to haf the same fate after 2-3 posts... turn into a fight club thread! disgusting!!!! how many actually read the post? and how relevant are ur posts to the topic??! think abt it...

why dun see this interesting fact that vista's had only 27 vulnerabilities as compared to 39 in XP during the first 6 months?? :)
 

faraaz

Evil Genius
Which goes to show that Microsoft's standards for patching their sh!t are slipping and its further proof that my decision to shift to Linux from Winblows was a good one...
 

Sykora

I see right through you.
I feel irked because I know many people who put a lot of work into open source software, in order to make a product better, and I feel bad that there are people who say that they are liars, or are misleading about what they do.

I am not a fanboy, you may choose to believe it or not, but I am posting this from vista, using IE. You see that the first thing I install on a new computer is Windows, I am not confident enough in my expertise in Linux to attempt it as an only-OS.

In several linux forums, I have tried to reason with hard-core open source who routinely talk about microsoft with distaste, that it isn't such a bad company. Many of them are quite one-tracked, and refuse to believe in anything else, other than Microsoft exists solely to remove the last pennies from their pocket. Here, it seems to be the reverse.

@gx : I'm not asking you to code a feature if it's not there. I'm saying that you can ask nicely for it, but not rant or rave if it doesn't get implemented. That's the cost of getting things free ;)

Almost every Linux user has used Windows at least once. Note that I say 'almost' because I've never come across a linux user who has never used windows, such is its user-friendliness. That being the case, linux users become linux users because they understand the goods of windows -- or lack thereof, and decide to switch. Or maybe they don't want to pay for it. But make no mistake, we understand the goods.

All in all, I think we should agree to disagree. We can't convince you that you should be using FOSS, because that's what it's about -- freedom of choice. And you can't convince us to pay for something we don't want. But try not insult the efforts of many dedicated programmers -- except in the Fight club, where you're free to do whatever you feel like :)

I'm content to leave it at that.

EDIT : @Infra_red_dude : I didn't see your post there -- I certainly feel that Vista is _much_ more bug-free than XP. I feel way more comfortable using it than XP. The only thing that bugs me there is the graphics card driver issue, but that's nVidia's problem as far as I can see. If that's fixed, Vista would be awesome.
 
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anandk

anandk

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goobimama said:
Very contradictory articles you are posting Anand...

the truth is the truth. two sides of the same coin !

fanboys see only one side and think that is the reality !

i prefer to see both the sides, and KNOWING so, enjoy what i have decided and chosen to enjoy ! ;-)
 

gxsaurav

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Sykora said:
I feel irked because I know many people who put a lot of work into open source software, in order to make a product better, and I feel bad that there are people who say that they are liars, or are misleading about what they do.

I also feel irked that there are so many Microsoft developers, working day & night & coming out with world class softwares which lets the user work the way they want, but still Macboys & Linux users call there labour sh1t :mad:

I am not a fanboy, you may choose to believe it or not, but I am posting this from vista, using IE. You see that the first thing I install on a new computer is Windows, I am not confident enough in my expertise in Linux to attempt it as an only-OS.

so? what r u tryign to say.

@gx : I'm not asking you to code a feature if it's not there. I'm saying that you can ask nicely for it, but not rant or rave if it doesn't get implemented. That's the cost of getting things free ;)

Thanx, now go tell this to the Eddie who told me "You want webcam feature in pidgin, well go & code it cos the developers don't find it important to include in there developement tree". What a gr8 logic.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
why is every1 blaming me did i say anything that is not happening in this forum or every where ... vendetta against MS and its user everytime making statements that show windows users as inferior ... and then when me or gx posts anything comparing it to some other os they call us fanboys where as we post the good and the bad

and u r saying u r getting irked ... man get a life
 

eddie

El mooooo
gx_saurav said:
Thanx, now go tell this to the Eddie who told me "You want webcam feature in pidgin, well go & code it cos the developers don't find it important to include in there developement tree". What a gr8 logic.
Bull***!!! You were first told about GyachI, aMSN and Openwengo but you still kept whining/ranting about having voice-video support in Pidgin. Then only you were told to go and code. If tomorrow a Linux user starts cribbing about Windows Live messenger not having Gtalk support or Yahoo! messenger not having ICQ support...can you even say that to him? Can you code Gtalk's support in Yahoo! messenger? "Go and code"? Do you have code of Yahoo! messenger? I want to include Gtalk support in it. Can you give it to me?

Get real you idiot! You were given good alternatives but you will never stop your rants!

gx_saurav said:
"You want a feature in some IM Client, well code it" achcha khsa sunaega woh wapas & will switch to WIndows or Mac.
Mere ko Yahoo! messenger mein ICQ support chahiye. Dilwata hai kya? Idiot!
 
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gxsaurav

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eddie said:
Bull***!!! You were first told about GyachI, aMSN and Openwengo but you still kept whining/ranting about having voice-video support in Pidgin. Then only you were told to go and code. If tomorrow a Linux user starts cribbing about Windows Live messenger not having Gtalk support or Yahoo! messenger not having ICQ support...can you even say that to him? Can you code Gtalk's support in Yahoo! messenger? "Go and code"? Do you have code of Yahoo! messenger? I want to include Gtalk support in it. Can you give it to me?

Mere ko Yahoo! messenger mein ICQ support chahiye. Dilwata hai kya? Idiot!

No Sorry, Yahoo Messenger & ICQ are closed source softwares. However Pidgin, GYachI, aMSN are all open source which means the functionality of GyashI can be easily integrated in Pidgin cos it is arleady there in the form of source code. If you give reason like "They don't have time" then you are talking nonsence. The text part of Pidgin is already complete since quite a long time.
 
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