Mass Effect/Mass Effect 2 Discussion

[NVIDIAGeek]

^Whoa sh*t! Just like weapons, eh? Anyway, thank you very much, budd. Much appreciated.

 

[JojoTheDragon]

Anyone having ME save just before you need to make the decision of saving Kaiden or Ashley in Virmire and all other quest missions finished please upload it, or provide me a link?

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

^I finished the game just like you, jojo. But I saved the Council and Saren killed himself. I thought it was game over and was happy to avoid the fight after seein' Ethan's post but Sovereign turned him into a filthy creature. But I defeated him in the first place, don't know why Ethan had a difficult time with Saren, he was darn ugly! And my shotgun ain't as great as yours. But I'm Level 47 though.

 

[JojoTheDragon]

Just Recruited Samara and Legion. Also completed Samara's loyalty mission. Failed to earn Zaeeds loyalty as i decided to save the workers and neglected his revenge. Totally loving it.

 

[dare devil]

Completed ME2 last week(Tali and Jack Died) without completing all the side missions.
Now start playing again with imported saved files from ME1.

 

[varunb]

Failed to earn Zaeeds loyalty as i decided to save the workers and neglected his revenge. Totally loving it.

You did the right thing by saving the workers bcos it will fetch you more paragon (provided you want paragon only). The reason why didn't get his loyalty bcos you might not be having the required paragon level to unlock the charm conversation which occurs just before the end of his loyalty mission. You must have clicked a lot when the renegade thing flashes on your screen. Thats why you probably would have lost the paragon points. I was successfully able to use the charm conversation & get his loyalty before the mission was over.

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Quick question guys, I have recruited pretty much every member there is and now I'm clueless as to how to proceed. Do we need to complete everyone's loyalty missions to progress the main storyline?

I wasn't able to recruit Liara, apparently she has her own vendetta to manage and sent me on a wild goose chase for her stuff only to get a thanks towards the end. Now WTF am I supposed to do?

Is there any member that is left to be collected to form the team? How do I speak to the Illusive man now? I can't bring up the console in the briefing room.

 

[varunb]

Quick question guys, I have recruited pretty much every member there is and now I'm clueless as to how to proceed. Do we need to complete everyone's loyalty missions to progress the main storyline?

I wasn't able to recruit Liara, apparently she has her own vendetta to manage and sent me on a wild goose chase for her stuff only to get a thanks towards the end. Now WTF am I supposed to do?

Is there any member that is left to be collected to form the team? How do I speak to the Illusive man now? I can't bring up the console in the briefing room.

You need to complete all your primary objectives (the secondary assignments are not important to the main storyline). Once they are taken care of, you will get to chat with Illusive man again & he will give you more objectives (or dossiers ). There's no way you can call Illusive man on your own wishes. Loyalty missions are extremely important else your teammates will not survive the finale. I have already posted this in my walkthrough.

 

[dare devil]

Played the final battle Three times.All the time i saved all the crew members but lost one of the teem member.(Gained all the team member's loyalty)
1st Time Thane died.
2nd time Mordin died.
3rd time Tali died.
How can i save all the team members?
(Before the suicide mission romance with Mirinda,after completing the final battle select "not interested"in conversation with mirinda then talk to Tali and romance with her.Tali is very possessive)

 

[varunb]

Played the final battle Three times.All the time i saved all the crew members but lost one of the teem member.(Gained all the team member's loyalty)
1st Time Thane died.
2nd time Mordin died.
3rd time Tali died.
How can i save all the team members?
(Before the suicide mission romance with Mirinda,after completing the final battle select "not interested"in conversation with mirinda then talk to Tali and romance with her.Tali is very possessive)

You never mentioned the strategy you used in the suicide mission. Without that info, I can't pin-point out where you went wrong. It appears that you must have chose wrong the squadmate for the wrong task. Also, did you research all the necessary squad upgrades ?

 

[dare devil]

Ist Time :
For vents hacking: Legion
1st Squad leader: Garrus
2nd Squad Leader: Garrus
Escort the survivors: Grunt
Boss fight: Shepard, Mordin,Mirinda
Thane Died.He come with Smara, Shephard and jack in the Biotic Shield like thing at the end of the mission(before reaching the boss fight) a lot of insects coming and taken away him.
IInd Time :
For vents hacking: Legion
1st Squad leader: Garrus
2nd Squad Leader: Garrus
Escort the survivors: Grunt
Boss fight: Shepard, Thane, Miranda
After completing the final boss fight the cut scene shows Mordin died.
IIInd Time :
For vents hacking: Legion
1st Squad leader: Garrus
2nd Squad Leader: Garrus
Escort the survivors: Grunt
Boss fight: Shepard, Mordin, Thane
After completing the final boss fight the cut scene shows Tali died.
This is the 2nd time i played the game using cheats(imported saved files from ME1).So i have full paragon and renegade whenever necessary i can get 500000 minerals and credits so i got all the upgrades.
When the first time i played this game without cheats i can't get Tali and jack's loyalty.I lost both of them in the final battle.

I HAVE PLAYED MOST OF THE PC GAMES,BUT ONLY COMPLETED 2 GAMES.
1)MASS EFFECT
2)MASS EFFECT 2

 

[varunb]

Your above post is a bit confusing. Are the strategies you mentioned above from your first playthrough or second ? Assuming they were from your 1st playthrough, its crystal clear why your squadmates died (loyalty of course). Then what about your second playthrough ? Were you able to save all the squadmates ? Please be clear.

 

[dare devil]

All the above strategies are in my 2nd play through(Gained all the squad member's loyalty).I played the final battle 3 times,all the times one of my squad member died.
In my Ist play through Jack and Tali died.(loyalty is the reason).

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This time i saved all the squad and crew members.
For vents hacking: Legion
1st Squad leader: Garrus
2nd Squad Leader: Mirinda
Escort the survivors: Tali
Boss fight: Shepard, Mirinda,Jack

Thanks Varunb.

 

[varunb]

The strategies you used are fine, no doubt. The only reason I can think of attributing to your squadmates' deaths is that you must have forgotten to get an important upgrade. Perhaps you must have forgotten to get the upgrade(s) from Illium, Citadel & Omega. If you are unsure, then go to these 3 places & purchase all the upgrades from all the counters. Leave nothing behind. Also, I read somewhere on in the internet that in the suicide mission before Shepard takes 2 squadmates to fight the final boss, he is supposed to say "We'd better hurry" instead of "Someone has to hold the door". Not sure if this works but you can try. The last thing which I can think of is that you could have missed an important upgrade while doing your missions (possibly forgot to bypass or hack devices since each mission always has one device which gives you an upgrade to be researched.

 

[dare devil]

Thanks Varunb.
I think u missed my previous post.
When i select "We'd better hurry" and 'Let's Move" one of the squad member died.
Before the final boss fight,in the conversation select these three lines
"We'd better hurry"
"The Galaxy is depends on Us"
"Its them or us"

This time i saved all the squad and crew members.
For vents hacking: Legion
1st Squad leader: Garrus
2nd Squad Leader: Mirinda
Escort the survivors: Tali
Boss fight: Shepard, Mirinda,Jack

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

MASSIVE SPOILERS

Completed Mass Effect 2, but what a f*cking huge loss for my crew members. I screwed up big time I guess and it pisses me off. You know why?

I did every loyalty mission there is and still they died. WTF?

I didn't have enough Paragon points to end the dispute between Miranda & Jack, so I chose Miranda (for obvious reasons) over Jack. I lost Jack's loyalty and couldn't gain enough Paragon points till the end to re-gain her loyalty. I said f*ck it and move on.

As soon as I entered Omega 4 relay, the ship started taking a massive hit. I guess I should have upgraded the ship, but I didn't have enough resources for it. So the first one to fall was *drum roll* Jack. I said well that's OK, only lost one member. Later on, Tali got screwed as the engine room exploded. Next to go down (out of nowhere) was Thane.

So that's 3 crew members down in one cut-scene. WTH? Am I that bad a commander?

This didn't end here. Once on the collector ship, I sent Legion down the vent, since he is the AI expert. He died when trying to close the jammed door. This was infuriating for me, as I really admired his abilities. I felt extremely bad for all of them, except for Jack may be. Never has any game, since Fahrenheit and Kane and Lynch Dead Men, had a massive attachment to it's characters.

Rubbing salt to the wounds was the demise of Dr.Chakwas and the remaining crew. That was my own selfish decision to send them off alone, as I thought leaving some one behind to escort them would prove waste of strength.

So all in all I was reduced to a very small crew and 4 of my good team members died. F*CK! *sighs*

Anyway, the game was 10 times more EPIC than the first one. It is everything I wanted from a beginner level RPG/shooter title. I just pray that they keep the same gameplay elements in ME3 and make it even more awesome.

Thank you Bioware for an epic journey through this game. Wishing you success.

 

[varunb]

MASSIVE SPOILERS

Completed Mass Effect 2, but what a f*cking huge loss for my crew members. I screwed up big time I guess and it pisses me off. You know why?

I did every loyalty mission there is and still they died. WTF?

I didn't have enough Paragon points to end the dispute between Miranda & Jack, so I chose Miranda (for obvious reasons) over Jack. I lost Jack's loyalty and couldn't gain enough Paragon points till the end to re-gain her loyalty. I said f*ck it and move on.

As soon as I entered Omega 4 relay, the ship started taking a massive hit. I guess I should have upgraded the ship, but I didn't have enough resources for it. So the first one to fall was *drum roll* Jack. I said well that's OK, only lost one member. Later on, Tali got screwed as the engine room exploded. Next to go down (out of nowhere) was Thane.

So that's 3 crew members down in one cut-scene. WTH? Am I that bad a commander?

This didn't end here. Once on the collector ship, I sent Legion down the vent, since he is the AI expert. He died when trying to close the jammed door. This was infuriating for me, as I really admired his abilities. I felt extremely bad for all of them, except for Jack may be. Never has any game, since Fahrenheit and Kane and Lynch Dead Men, had a massive attachment to it's characters.

Rubbing salt to the wounds was the demise of Dr.Chakwas and the remaining crew. That was my own selfish decision to send them off alone, as I thought leaving some one behind to escort them would prove waste of strength.

So all in all I was reduced to a very small crew and 4 of my good team members died. F*CK! *sighs*

Anyway, the game was 10 times more EPIC than the first one. It is everything I wanted from a beginner level RPG/shooter title. I just pray that they keep the same gameplay elements in ME3 and make it even more awesome.

Thank you Bioware for an epic journey through this game. Wishing you success.

After reading your strategy, I have to say that yes you were a terrible commander shock. Not paying attention to gather the minerals by scanning & consequently not upgrading the ship was a total stupid thing to do ....dont take it personally. Never mind, you can always go through another playthrough by importing you mass effect 2 character. Be patient next time though.

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Believe me, had I known the ship needed upgrades, then I would have done that. However, I didn't know what exactly those upgrades were for and how it would affect my ending. I thought gaining everyone's loyalty was the only thing I needed. Well I guess I will have to live with my decision. Hope ME3 isn't harnessed in a big way due to this choice.

Also I didn't team up with Illusive man towards the end. Now tell me that's more bad news?

 

[vamsi_krishna]

Even i Didn't teamed up with Illusive man. If left that facility then.. you will be on his side.

For me.. Tali died because of an RPG soon after hacking the vents. Jack died while escorting Normandy's crew back to the ship.

where I am really amazed is, You haven't gone for Ship upgrades. If you have had a chat with Joker about the upgrade.. he will give you a subtle hint that it will save our asses at some point.

Don't worry. BTW, how were things with Miranda. Did you guys do it?

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Don't worry. BTW, how were things with Miranda. Did you guys do it?

Yes we did. I constantly kept asking her time and again for it, but she kept dodging. I guess it could only be triggered towards the beginning of the final mission.