Intel Only: Gamin PC @40-45K

[funkysourav]

ok, please give me the reasons why you prefer core i3.

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i will just say 1 thing --- comparisons tell everything. go the anandtech site i have mentioned.

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ok you mentioned the comparison on the gigabyte website--

i compared athlon 2 x4 635 and gigabyte ga ma785gmt ud2h WITH core i3 530 and gigabyte p55m ud2. see the results.

athlon -
3d marks - 10687
price - 522 $

core i3 -
3d marks - 10355
price - 528 $

now answer??

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athlon 630 is just 100mhz slower than 635, so imagine its results on your own.
635 and i3 530 are prices identically.

dude
you are so so so Wrong!

i3 530 combo shows 11273
(Intel Core I3 530+GA-P55M-UD2+HD5770)@387.99$
or if you go for H55 MOTHERBOARD(GA-H55M-S2H)same score FIY
it is 372$

while athlon 635 is 10676
(Athlon II X4 635+GA-785GMT-UD2H+HD5770)@381.99$

check out the attachments if you dont believe me

 

[funkysourav]

now the question is
are you willing to bypass the much better offer from intel just to save 300 bucks or so?
just to choose an offering from amd ?

you decide and tell me

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even anandtech shows that I3 530 is beating athlon II X4 635 to pulp
in every scenario
Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

p.s. maybe it is ignorant of me,
but i never heard of passmark

no-one seems to use it

the primary concern is not benchmarking software , but in games

 

[coderunknown]

@everyone, please stop this cat fight.

Jaskanwar singh's rig is a very potent one indeed
but i feel it is a bit processor centric
i have made a few subtle changes if his concern is gaming

CORE I3 530 5.5k
POWERCOLOR HD 5850 15k

his rig is a good one. a value processor + a very good graphics card. everything balanced.

tis way he can have the best of both worlds
the op can change the proccy to accomodate the i5 750 in the future

in future? in future i.e. next year H55 or say LGA1156 socket will be history (taken over by LGA1155). from where will you find a LGA1156 processor? so i'll simply advice, if going with Intel don't back on these "Future Stuff" slogans. please.

dude even an athlon 2 x4 630 will be better then core i3 in the future. the rig that i mentioned second time is in my opinion better than the first one.

X4 got some discrete advantage over i3. but the opposite is true also. i3 is much faster than X4 or X3. OC is much more better. bad thing, these only advantage.

X4 is futureproof. sticking to a dual core, now is i think a totally stupid decision. forget that HT thing. it yields nothing. i3 faster than X3 & X4 cause of its superior architecture & 32nm process node. also as i mentioned above, with Intel its best to not spell the word "futureproof". cause its like making fun of yourself.

just because athlon II x4 has more cores for the same price and maybe a 100mhz speed bump,
doesnt mean that it is better than I3 530

thats what i mentioned above. i3 faster than AMD's X3 & X4s.

the only VFM in amd seems to be athlon IIX3 series

don't forget mention: only in gaming.

Intel manages to kick the **** out of AMD even in terms of power consumption and temperature

~15W makes a difference (difference in TDP between X3 & i3)? you can save much more by simply going for AMD with a more efficient PSU.

about temperature, they aren't that much cooler. they almost same as the Athlon II X3-X4s.

1.Brand Value
2.Lower Temp(compared to athlon II x4 635)
3.better performance(in games and also in productivity)
4.better overclockability
5.more and more game manufacturers are biased towards intel(HELL! they should be as the op pointed out 80% of the world uses intel)
6.do i really need to say more?

1. whats Brand value? ok take Asus. its top most famous brand in motherboard. and now see, we hardly recommend Asus to anyone cause it comes with a host of problems that aren't easy to solve.

2. already mentioned above buddy.

3. true. performance is considerably high.

4. this true also.

5. than? whats the relation between game developers & Intel/AMD. do Intel pay compensation to game studios to make games that need Intel processor or give lower performance in AMD processors? do check clearly what you say here buddy. you may end up making joke of yourself.

6. you gave just 2 good points. 3 are what i say is either biased or totally out of this world points. that matters nothing.

dude
you are so so so Wrong!

i3 530 combo shows 11273
(Intel Core I3 530+GA-P55M-UD2+HD5770)@387.99$
or if you go for H55 MOTHERBOARD(GA-H55M-S2H)same score FIY
it is 372$

while athlon 635 is 10676
(Athlon II X4 635+GA-785GMT-UD2H+HD5770)@381.99$

check out the attachments if you dont believe me

please give cost in INR. cause here the prices differ a lot in many products.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

ok see this from your gigabyte site funkysourav--
3DMARKS

-------------------athlon II x4 630---------------core i3 530
HD5870--------------12314------------------------14275
GTX275--------------10687------------------------10355
HD4890--------------10745------------------------10004
HD5770--------------10676------------------------11273
GTS250---------------6891------------------------6103
HD5750---------------9983------------------------7433
GT240----------------5985------------------------5880
GT220----------------2252------------------------2480
HD4670---------------2193------------------------2138
GT210-----------------778-------------------------824

MOREOVER THAT PASSMARK MEASURES THE PERFORMANCE AND SPEED OF A PC. SEE IT HERE - PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

athlon 2 x4 630 - 3361
athlon 2 x4 635 - 3360
core i3 540 - 2869
core i3 530 - 2722

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in the anandtech cpu bench you will see that 635 is better in multithreading by BIG MARGINS and there is a difference of 6-7 fps in gaming. SO WHAT WILL YOU CHOOSE?

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in anandtech cpu bench SEE CAREFULLY THAT IN SOME COMPARISONS LOWER IS BETTER IS ALSO WRITTEN.

 

[funkysourav]

ok see this from your gigabyte site funkysourav--
3DMARKS

-------------------athlon II x4 630---------------core i3 530
HD5870--------------12314------------------------14275
GTX275--------------10687------------------------10355
HD4890--------------10745------------------------10004
HD5770--------------10676------------------------11273
GTS250---------------6891------------------------6103
HD5750---------------9983------------------------7433
GT240----------------5985------------------------5880
GT220----------------2252------------------------2480
HD4670---------------2193------------------------2138
GT210-----------------778-------------------------824

MOREOVER THAT PASSMARK MEASURES THE PERFORMANCE AND SPEED OF A PC. SEE IT HERE - PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

athlon 2 x4 630 - 3361
athlon 2 x4 635 - 3360
core i3 540 - 2869
core i3 530 - 2722

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in the anandtech cpu bench you will see that 635 is better in multithreading by BIG MARGINS and there is a difference of 6-7 fps in gaming. SO WHAT WILL YOU CHOOSE?

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in anandtech cpu bench SEE CAREFULLY THAT IN SOME COMPARISONS LOWER IS BETTER IS ALSO WRITTEN.

Thanks Jaskanwar,
I am happy to say that you have just convinced me to choose athlon 635 over intel i3 530
i was looking for a mobo proccy combo in 9k
and i3 530 comes nowhere near that price range(it comes to 11k!)
the athlon setup just fits nicely into my budget :
AMD Athlon II X4 635 - 5k
Biostar TA785G3 - 4k
That's 9k

i am glad you proved me wrong
p.s.
could you comment in my thread about the mobo?

 

[Cool Buddy]

Now that things have been resolved, returning to original question

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
8.
All of ur suggestions to people are for AMD PC only & appears that u are reluctant to suggest INTEL config, whereas 80% of the WORLD uses it.

Sorry man, the way you insist on Intel and the reasons you are giving, you are highly overrating your hardware knowledge. At your budget, AMD will be a better choice, you can improve the overall performance of the PC with a better graphics card

And we are not reluctant to recommend Intel, most people do not have enough budget to buy Intel processors (50k is the minimum for i5, i3 is not much advantage, X4 is better). You can check threads where people have mentioned budgets of 70-80k, they have been suggested i7 configs.

 

[ico]

@funkysourav

If you have some queries, then please start your own thread. You ended up hijacking this thread unintentionally. Consider this as a warning.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Thanks Jaskanwar,
I am happy to say that you have just convinced me to choose athlon 635 over intel i3 530
i was looking for a mobo proccy combo in 9k
and i3 530 comes nowhere near that price range(it comes to 11k!)
the athlon setup just fits nicely into my budget :
AMD Athlon II X4 635 - 5k
Biostar TA785G3 - 4k
That's 9k

i am glad you proved me wrong
p.s.
could you comment in my thread about the mobo?

no problem dude,
just change that mobo to Biostar TA785G3 HD @ 4.2K

 

[Mr.Digital]

Re: Intel Only: Gaming PC @40-45K

Thanks for all ur suggestions.

I want to ask few questions here:

1. Give ur opinion abt i5 661.

2. Have u heard about CIRCLE cabinets? I have seen COSMO model & its a VFM cabinet with very good cooling & ventilation, option for atleast 3 fans & without PSU it costs just ~1K. I believe its much better for value when compared to NZXT & Cooler master Elite series.

3. Is a latest INTEL Quadcore is better option for gaming with a good graphics card than an i5 proccy?

4.Should I go for ATI graphics card only or NVIDIA is also good value for money?

Please plz.......reply to these points only & don't flood the post with unnecessary arguments.

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Thanks for all ur suggestions.

I want to ask few questions here:

1. Give ur opinion abt i5 661.

2. Have u heard about CIRCLE cabinets? I have seen COSMO model & its a VFM cabinet with very good cooling & ventilation, option for atleast 3 fans & without PSU it costs just ~1K. I believe its much better for value when compared to NZXT & Cooler master Elite series.

3. Is a latest INTEL Quadcore is better option for gaming with a good graphics card than an i5 proccy?

4.Should I go for ATI graphics card only or NVIDIA is also good value for money?

Please plz.......reply to these points only & don't flood the post with unnecessary arguments.

Nobody suggested the i7 config with extra budget stretch........!!!

Plz suggest decent i7 config also. A config that is not too costly but better than i5 750.

 

[funkysourav]

i5 661 is a total waste of money
dont even look towards it
if you want to build an i7 gaming pc it would cost you a premium of at least 15k over the i5 750 pc
there is no difference in performance between i5 750 and i7 930
but still if you want to go for i7
i can suggest you one for about 100k!!
dont blame me the cheapest i7cpu mb combo alone costs about 32k!!!
plus they use triple channel memory
which comes at 10k minimum


so i7 is not going to stretch your budget
it is going to double it simple!!


regarding your other questions i cant really help you if i dont know how much you are willing to spend!!

follow the template

 

[aby geek]

funky saurav august main galat saabit ho jayega, cause 930 phase out or 950 se replace ho jayega. to i7 based rig august tak tal do.

abhi bole to apna funky mamo satyevachan bola , uski baat manne ka.

btw, august main bloomfield kharidne ka matlab nahin banta . coz in q3 2011 it goes to vultures.

so sense is to spend the least on cpu and mobo combo , and change the motherboard and cpu in april 2011.

if you dont mind that advice then you can even go for core 2 duo.: on the grounds of something cheaper then i5 750.

otherwise go with i5 750.

if you want to keep your cpu processor till 2011 end then go with AMD it has better record with motherboard socket launch then intel.

intel apne ghar ka kurda uthhane le liyen hume alag alag bori pakda deta.AMD ka to bus truck me lado or chhutti

 

[Mr.Digital]

i5 661 is a total waste of money
dont even look towards it
if you want to build an i7 gaming pc it would cost you a premium of at least 15k over the i5 750 pc
there is no difference in performance between i5 750 and i7 930
but still if you want to go for i7
i can suggest you one for about 100k!!:roll:
dont blame me the cheapest i7cpu mb combo alone costs about 32k!!!
plus they use triple channel memory
which comes at 10k minimum


so i7 is not going to stretch your budget
it is going to double it simple!!


regarding your other questions i cant really help you if i dont know how much you are willing to spend!!

follow the template

As far as Quad core is concerned, I am ready to spend 40-45K on its config. So please suggest one for me.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Thanks for all ur suggestions.

I want to ask few questions here:

1. Give ur opinion abt i5 661.

2. Have u heard about CIRCLE cabinets? I have seen COSMO model & its a VFM cabinet with very good cooling & ventilation, option for atleast 3 fans & without PSU it costs just ~1K. I believe its much better for value when compared to NZXT & Cooler master Elite series.

3. Is a latest INTEL Quadcore is better option for gaming with a good graphics card than an i5 proccy?

4.Should I go for ATI graphics card only or NVIDIA is also good value for money?

Please plz.......reply to these points only & don't flood the post with unnecessary arguments.

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Nobody suggested the i7 config with extra budget stretch........!!!

Plz suggest decent i7 config also. A config that is not too costly but better than i5 750.

1. i5 661 is a super waste of money its a dula core with ht costing around 12k. forget about it..

4. go with NZXT gamma, its much more better. it allows psu to be placed at bottom so the clutter of wires can be reduced, its build quality is much more better..

3.i5 750 is a quad core only dude....then come i7 quad cores..

4. go with ati card..nvidias latest dx11 series tends to heat up a lot and consume a lot of power...cost a lot also.

5. for going with core i7 look below.

i5 661 is a total waste of money
dont even look towards it
if you want to build an i7 gaming pc it would cost you a premium of at least 15k over the i5 750 pc
there is no difference in performance between i5 750 and i7 930
but still if you want to go for i7
i can suggest you one for about 100k!!
dont blame me the cheapest i7cpu mb combo alone costs about 32k!!!
plus they use triple channel memory
which comes at 10k minimum


so i7 is not going to stretch your budget
it is going to double it simple!!


regarding your other questions i cant really help you if i dont know how much you are willing to spend!!

follow the template

there is difference of performance

cheapest i7 config would be...(for OPs needs)
Core i7 930 @ 13k
MSI X58 PRO @ 10k
Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333MHz * 2 @ 5.1k
MSI HD5770 HAWX 1GB GDDR5 @ 9.6k
Samsung 500GB SATA @ 1.8k
CM GX550W @ 4.2k
NZXT Gamma @ 2k
BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 7.5k
Logitech Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.7k

Total - 53.9k

i7 supports triple channel memory that doesnt mean you cant plug in dual channel..

 

[Mr.Digital]

Dear JAS,

I know that i5 & i7 are quad core with HT.

What i mean to ask is INTEL CORE 2 QUAD CPUs compared to i5 750.

 

[ico]

^ Core 2 Quad is outdated now. Older platform. Core i5 and i7 are the successors.

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Please DO NOT SUGGEST ANY AMD CONFIG.

Intel has wide support when it comes to latest Hardware/Software/Games/Updates.

4.Should I go for ATI graphics card only or NVIDIA is also good value for money?

Go for ATi. It's much much better.

I just thought of making an obvious point if you didn't know. ATi is a subsidiary of AMD.

 

[coderunknown]

^^ i think by saying so OP mean PC based on Intel processor only. but any graphics card

 

[Mr.Digital]

You got it right dear.....

Any ways I know that ATI is of AMD only.

For the last couple of years ATI is beating NVIDIA in powerful GPUs. Now ATI has the DirectX 11 support as well but at the same time the NVIDIA has PHYSx on its name.

But as per my observations the NVIDIA is not value for money & the performance difference in its particular series is not very satisfying. for example if i move from GTX250 to GTX260 & to GTX275; i don't find that much difference of performance when compared with price difference.

There were years when NVIDIA lead the markrt, but now ATI is dominating.

I dont have any BAD feeling for AMD; but i don't like AMD proccy. Its just my personal opinion.

 

[pulsar_swift]

guys, dont waste your time. If he is asking for intel, suggest intel. Its his money/PC.:C_ninja:

 

[rahul.007]

I dont have any BAD feeling for AMD; but i don't like AMD proccy. Its just my personal opinion.

reasons????

cheapest i7 config would be...(for OPs needs)
Core i7 930 @ 13k
MSI X58 PRO @ 10k
Corsair TR3X1G-1333 XMS3 C9 3GB Kit @ 4.5k
MSI HD5770 HAWX 1GB GDDR5 @ 9.6k
Samsung 500GB SATA @ 1.8k
CM GX550W @ 4.2k
NZXT Gamma @ 2k
BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 7.5k
Logitech Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.7k

Total - 53.3k

now its better....

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

BUT ONE MORE THING IMO

Since you are getting a middle end card i.e.5770 you wont see much boost in performance by going with i7 930 instead of i5 750.

i say i5 750, dont waste money on i7 930..