Here comes iPhone killer by Nokia: Nokia 5800 "Tube"!

[amitabhishek]

lol @ iPhone killer......

^^ Agree!

 

[nikhilpai]

lol @ iPhone killer......

Disagree

 

[Coool]

^^ +1

 

[amitabhishek]

iPhone is not actually a phone but a powerful computer with a small form factor. Openmoko and soon to be launched Palm's Prē mobile follow the same philosophy. I am not too sure about Android since it is only a software stack. What Nokia has done for so many years is basically taken all of us for a jolly ride. Their overpriced phones never commanded that kind of price but sadly we didn't had much of a choice. If Apple had priced iPhone competitively then 5800 would have had a pre-natal death. 2009-2010 will be the toughest year for Nokia. Unless and until they do some radical change in their ch$@ Symbian Platform their phones will continue to look like phones from Jurassic era.

So guys let us call spade a spade and acknowledge a superior technology.

 

[ionicsachin]

I think the real iPhone Killer will be the new multitouch phones from HTC going to be with Windows Mobile 7 and the Androids

 

[MetalheadGautham]

iPhone is not actually a phone but a powerful computer with a small form factor. Openmoko and soon to be launched Palm's Prē mobile follow the same philosophy. I am not too sure about Android since it is only a software stack. What Nokia has done for so many years is basically taken all of us for a jolly ride. Their overpriced phones never commanded that kind of price but sadly we didn't had much of a choice. If Apple had priced iPhone competitively then 5800 would have had a pre-natal death. 2009-2010 will be the toughest year for Nokia. Unless and until they do some radical change in their ch$@ Symbian Platform their phones will continue to look like phones from Jurassic era.

So guys let us call spade a spade and acknowledge a superior technology.

Oh please, I have had enough of that crap about smart phones replacing computers. It is a mini computer - yes I agree, but a powerful one ? DEFINITELY NOT.

OpenMoko is more of a Tablet PC than a mobile phone. Even its reviewers agree - that you can use its default OpenMoko OS which apparently feels like beta software or you can use QTopia OS which is a highly stable and well tested platform used by several motorolla phones and owned by Nokia and which is easy enough for casual users, both clear indicatives of it being a phone.

BUT, You can also install Debian GNU/Linux - a full fledged Linux Distro in an OpenMoko phone, and gain access to countless stable and well tested apps - something NO other platform can give because you can use common desktop apps directly. Thats where OpenMoko phone stands out. Its a REAL Computer. Ofcourse, if anybody else makes a phone compatible with debian-ARM edition, it can steal the limelight away, but.... the point is, OpenMoko is the only phone whose developers were cunning enough to ensure support from a platform like this. BUT, not everyone is skilled enough to use Debian, so it goes BOOM. And yeah, add the facts like the hardware has very little VFM, make it FAIL.

Now iPhone. Lets see.... plenty to tell. Great hardware, amazing UI, but hardly any apps. Well, you DO have apps but to get/make them you need to keep spending more and more dough. And I think this is hardly justified because mobile phones are supposed to be a one time investment with the exception of rental. And yeah, both OpenMoko based Neo Freerunner and iPhone have just 2MP camera.

iPhone would have made a wonderful phone but for the fact that its expensive. I seriously doubt Apple can price it lower than what it currently sells for. Contracts may reduce its cost, but if iPhone can go to 200$ AFTER heavy subsidies, why can't 5800 XpressMusic go to 50$ with the same contracts ?

In a nutshell, iPhone and OpenMoko are still FAIL. And android wouldn't be complete till several more months. Till then ?

You just have to live with Symbian S60 phones. OR winmo phones. IF you want to ensure that the phone really is "smart" enough to find apps free to download all over the internet and still be VFM and easy to use.

 

[Coool]

I think the real iPhone Killer will be the new multitouch phones from HTC going to be with Windows Mobile 7 and the Androids

iphone is already killed by many phones and it also commited suicide in india with its price and got succeed....

 

[ionicsachin]

yeah thats true....i always wondered why its regarded as so great phone...there is nothing so special abt it....even my O2 XDA Neo is better then it minus the multitouch.....

 

[nikhilpai]

What Nokia has done for so many years is basically taken all of us for a jolly ride. Their overpriced phones never commanded that kind of price but sadly we didn't had much of a choice. If Apple had priced iPhone competitively then 5800 would have had a pre-natal death.

You have answered the question yourself. Apple's iPhone is not priced competitively. Nokia 5800 at 19k without any restrictions which Apple has imposed on the iPhone is an obviously better deal than the iPhone at 30k with all the restrictions on usage of bluetooth, iTunes, etc

 

[virilecliffhanger]

Dudes!!!
R u still in the illusion or isit just ur intuition.... Unless u use the iphone u can't give credit..and if u use iphone with a lousy view...only god should save u...
You can't imagine the power it has.... .Only the apps can take you out of the world..... just see the number of developers and number of apps.... its just too much...No one can deny its greatness(price tag ko goli maro(naruku)...if ya can't afford..then gth).
And the one denies only because he is so jealous of it..

 

[Pat]

^^ There is no use arguing about it with the anti-fanboys. Hating Apple and Apple-products is kinda fashion on this forum, so better not waste your time.

 

[amitabhishek]

^^ There is no use arguing about it with the anti-fanboys. Hating Apple and Apple-products is kinda fashion on this forum, so better not waste your time.

I agree with you Pat, there is no point. After all we are comparing "Cashew nut" with "Ground nut". Everyone knows which is richer and better.

 

[ionicsachin]

Naah...hating Apple is not fashion....i think loving Apple is fashion....i think negligible few are browsing this forum thru mac

 

[virilecliffhanger]

^^ +1

lol!!!

Yah mate.. .its waste arguing.... And only a "selected.. few" are eligible for cashewnuts!!!

 

[skeletor]

^^ Agree!

I was lol-ing because I've seen million of threads in this having similar title, 'iPhone killer', but they can never kill the iPhone in terms of flaunt value, hype generated and very poor value of money. iPhone rules in those departments, and also in some other too like a good interface, but that still does not justify its price and teh hype.

Disagree

^^ +1

^^ There is no use arguing about it with the anti-fanboys. Hating Apple and Apple-products is kinda fashion on this forum, so better not waste your time.

lol..

I agree with you Pat, there is no point. After all we are comparing "Cashew nut" with "Ground nut". Everyone knows which is richer and better.

Agreed.

 

[nikhilpai]

I was lol-ing because I've seen million of threads in this having similar title, 'iPhone killer', but they can never kill the iPhone in terms of flaunt value, hype generated and very poor value of money. iPhone rules in those departments, and also in some other too like a good interface, but that still does not justify its price and teh hype.

Well I was travelling in the local train yesterday evening and a couple of guys spotted my Nokia 5800. They were awestruck and began asking me about it specs / price / etc. Soon around 7-8 guys in the train started checking out my 5800 turn by turn and were really amazed by the device. If this is not flaunt value then I don't know what is

P.S. One of the guys who were awestruck with my 5800 was carrying a iPhone 2G himself

 

[amitabhishek]

Dude nothing against your phone. I am sure you bought it from hard earned money and you enjoying all the attention!I know it feels good when you lay your hand on a highly cherished gadget after months and months of saving.

Let me put it this way, you see a Mercedes Benz on the road as well as a brand new Fiat Linea chances are you will check out Linea more closely because its a new product. It doesn't mean Linea becomes a Mercedes killer.

 

[suniljain]

Here are some reasons why I believe Nokia 5800 is way ahead than Iphone-

1) Size
The iphone is bigger in size and uneasy for one hand grip. Nokia 5800 is designed to fit well into your hands. Being smaller in width, its easy to operate single handedly.

Iphone size: 115.5 X 62.1 X 12.3 mm
Nokia 5800 size: 111 X 51.7 X 15.5 mm

2) Weight
Iphone is much bulkier than Nokia 5800. Nokia 5800 is 25g lighter than Iphone in weight.

Iphone: 133g
Nokia 5800: 109g

3) Screen Resolution
The Iphone has 3.5” screen while Nokia 5800 has 3.2” but the resolution of 5800 is far more superior to Iphone.

Resolution:
Iphone: 480 by 320
Nokia 5800: 640 by 360

4) Storage
Iphone comes with two options- 8GB & 16GB internal memory. Nokia has a more flexible option to offer 8GB with micro SD card which is expandable upto 16GB. Nokia owners can expand memory size according to needs which the Iphone guys can’t do.

5) Input Methods
Iphone: Finger only.
Nokia 5800: Finger, stylus, plectrum, handwriting recognition.

6) Features
Apple Iphone has lots of missing features like cut and paste function, saving email attachments, no support for third party headphones, ringtones, applications, many software bugs and other technical glitches. Nokia 5800 Tube has no such issues plus many more amazing features included.

7) Colors
Iphone: Black for 8 & 16 GB, White for 16 GB only.
Nokia 5800: Red, Blue and Black.

8 ) Battery
Nokia 5800 provides upto 35 hrs of music playing time against Apple Iphone which claims just 24 hrs. Overall battery power (talktime/standby) is also about 30% more in Nokia 5800. What more, 5800 has a removable battery which Iphone lacks.

Iphone: 5 hrs talk-time, 300 hrs standby, not removable.
Nokia 5800: 8.8 hrs talk-time, 406 hrs standby, removable battery.

9) Camera
Iphone: 2 MP, no flash, no zoom, no additional camera.
Nokia 5800: 3.2 MP, Flash, 3x digital zoom with Carl Zeiss lens. A second camera in front is available for video calling/conferencing.

10) Video Calling
Iphone: No Video calling possible in Iphone.
Nokia 5800: Video calling is possible.

11) Video Recording
IPhone: No option for video recording.
Nokia 5800: Video recording is included.

12) Music Service
Iphone: Paid service with Apple Itunes Store. You pay and download music to your Iphone.
Nokia 5800: “Comes with music” service is bundled with Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic phone by which you can download as much music as you want for 1 year- FREE!!

13) Voice Dialing
Iphone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available

14) Voice Recording
IPhone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available

15) Web Browser
Iphone: Webkit based Safari browser, no flash available.
Nokia 5800: Webkit based browser, supports flash lite.

16) FM Radio
Iphone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available

17) Bluetooth
Iphone: Bluetooth is available for just handsfree, no file sharing possible.
Nokia 5800: Bluetooth available for handsfree and file sharing is possible. Better audio quality on bluetooth in 5800 with A2DP technology which Iphone lacks.

18) Messaging
Iphone: It does not support message forwarding, multiple SMS deletion, sending SMS to multiple recipients and multimedia messages (MMS).
Nokia 5800: All the above is possible plus it has MMS ver 1.3, message size upto 600kb, and automatic resizing of Images for MMS.

19) Price
Nokia 5800 is hopefully unlocked (without any contract) and will sell much cheaper for just £219 in UK which is equal to 279 Euros or $385.

Apple iPhone 3G, on the other hand, with contract in US comes for $199 & $299 for 8 & 16 GB models and the plans with AT&T are way too expensive. Unlocked Apple Iphones sells for around $800 on Ebay.

In other parts of the world, the 8GB unsubsidized Iphone model costs 499 euros ($700) in Italy, 350 pounds ($620) in UK, $700 in India. Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic is expected to sell around the world for about $400 or below.

20) Experience
Nokia: Ages of experience, hundreds of success stories and dozens of smart handsets in current portfolio. Nokia has about 40% market share with the No.1 spot with no close competitors. Certainly the king when it comes to brand value, service and experience.

Apple: First phone ever launched by Apple is Iphone, no prior experience in the telecom market. It’s a novice in the market with a very less market share despite having millions of Iphone sold.

Verdict:
Almost all the major brands around the world like Samsung, HTC, LG, etc launched their touchscreen smartphones with a hope to beat Apple’s Iphone. No-one came close to Iphone when it comes to looks, style, feel and features.

This is the first time a tech giant like Nokia has hit it hard with its first true touchscreen smartphone. Nokia 5800 is a real Iphone killer with way ahead features, perfect looks and great price. Bravo Nokia, Well Done!!

 

[gforce23]

Dude nothing against your phone. I am sure you bought it from hard earned money and you enjoying all the attention!I know it feels good when you lay your hand on a highly cherished gadget after months and months of saving.

Let me put it this way, you see a Mercedes Benz on the road as well as a brand new Fiat Linea chances are you will check out Linea more closely because its a new product. It doesn't mean Linea becomes a Mercedes killer.

Haha.. very well said.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Dudes!!!
R u still in the illusion or isit just ur intuition.... Unless u use the iphone u can't give credit..and if u use iphone with a lousy view...only god should save u...

I used the iPhone. NEXT!

You can't imagine the power it has.... .Only the apps can take you out of the world..... just see the number of developers and number of apps.... its just too much...

Going by that defination, OpenMoko totally pwns iPhone. Just check the apps available for it. Tonnes of them. And iPhone developers number compared to OpenMoko's Debian developers number is like the moon's mass compared to the earth's mass. Here, the apps are actually FREE and anyone can make them, again for FREE.

But ANYBODY will tell you that what really matters is that a good phone should behave as a good phone.

No one can deny its greatness

Here we go again.

(price tag ko goli maro(naruku)...if ya can't afford..then gth).

People buy cars for several lakhs. People buy Laptops for 80K and Desktops for 50K. What makes you think the same people can't afford to buy an iPhone for 29K ? Its just that the iPhone is often not worth the money.

And the one denies only because he is so jealous of it..

Lol, I just can't stop laughing at that.



The iPhone has several positivies - like being THE best touch screen phone ever made, having a great UI, being a great PMP which looks as well as sounds good and useful for tasks like internet browsing, but false praises would just end up ruining its well-being.