Help me choose between Dell Inspiron 15R SE vs Samsung 550p
Hrishi
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Samsung 550p with Core i7 @57,000 INR is having approximately 20% more performance than The Dell inspiron 15r SE.
The major difference being the Graphic card.
Samsung has Nvidia GT650M , which is currently the fastest multimedia series GPu for Laptops.
Ranks ~35 on Benchmark list , whereas the Dell 15r SE's gpu ranks ~60 in the benchmark list.
Source: NotebookCheck.
Though there is an issue with the temperature of GPU in samsung 550p , reported by several users .
Samsung will clearly take down Dell SE performance and build wise.
Design and appeal may vary from person to person.
IMHO, go for Samsung if you aren't that brand conscious. Although Samsung too is a good brand , but not so much settled in Computer market like Dell.
The major difference being the Graphic card.
Samsung has Nvidia GT650M , which is currently the fastest multimedia series GPu for Laptops.
Ranks ~35 on Benchmark list , whereas the Dell 15r SE's gpu ranks ~60 in the benchmark list.
Source: NotebookCheck.
Though there is an issue with the temperature of GPU in samsung 550p , reported by several users .
Samsung will clearly take down Dell SE performance and build wise.
Design and appeal may vary from person to person.
IMHO, go for Samsung if you aren't that brand conscious. Although Samsung too is a good brand , but not so much settled in Computer market like Dell.
aroraanant
Explorer
Both are good.Its a tough call between the two.
SlayerAndy
Broken In
I don't know why, but I really doubt Samsung's After sales service. I think Dell takes it away on build, looks and ASS.
gunner_kanishk
Journeyman
Let me see. For the same price.
1. Samsung has a faster processor.
2. Better screen.
3. Higher resolution screen. (2 and 3 are different things)
4. Better build quality.
5. Better looks.
6. Much, much better graphic card. The 7730 is actually performing below initial expectations.
7. A blu ray compatible drive.
8. A large keyboard including a numpad.
9. 2 year warranty.
Dell has backlit keyboard though. So that may be a deal breaker instead of the above 9 points. Someone above said they're both good, its a close call. LOL
And yeah, no heating issues on the i7 model at all. I've played over 20 hours by now and not once has it throttled.
1. Samsung has a faster processor.
2. Better screen.
3. Higher resolution screen. (2 and 3 are different things)
4. Better build quality.
5. Better looks.
6. Much, much better graphic card. The 7730 is actually performing below initial expectations.
7. A blu ray compatible drive.
8. A large keyboard including a numpad.
9. 2 year warranty.
Dell has backlit keyboard though. So that may be a deal breaker instead of the above 9 points. Someone above said they're both good, its a close call. LOL
And yeah, no heating issues on the i7 model at all. I've played over 20 hours by now and not once has it throttled.
Hrishi
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I highly doubt that for this specific comparison.
Although Dell is as such better but not for this comparison.
No idea about after sales though.
And please don't be biased while providing suggestions.
Lolz , :rofl.Someone above said they're both good, its a close call. LOL
daksh
Journeyman
Samsung plusses-
Stated by Kanishk
Minuses-
1. Heats up while extreme (Max Payne 3 on high) , about 90 degs for cpu and 85 for gpu .
2. Some pieces , most of them being i5 ones are throttling after heating up while playing extreme games on high .
Dell plusses -
1. ASS . No questions their ASS is best in the computer market .
2. Weaker GPU doesnt heat up .
3. Backlit keyboard .
Minuses -
1. Doesnt look too good .
2. All the plusses of Samsung .
Now I was also skeptical of buying a Samsung laptop but then i analysed considering past trends that -
1. People were skeptical of buying samsung TV's when Bravias were out there but that changed in a very short span and now Samsung TV sales and services are the best .
2. People were skeptical of buying any samsung phone before the Galaxy series .Heck, even the original galaxy s dint sell well enough in India . But they provided good sevice always and now you know what they are .
3. Samsung are world leaders in consumer electronics .
Considering the above points and the offer of 2 year warranty I took the risk , and I am glad I did coz this is absolutely beautiful .
If I would have bought dell it would have been only for one reason , Accidental coverage . But now I will be careful with my laptop.
I hope this was fair and please do correct me and add on to it where wrong.
Regards.
Ps. And though looks are completely subjective I dint quite like the design of the 15rse ( I checked it out in the showroom ) . It was too rounded and the key placements were weird as it dint have a numpad included. Build quality of both seemed pretty nice .
Stated by Kanishk
Minuses-
1. Heats up while extreme (Max Payne 3 on high) , about 90 degs for cpu and 85 for gpu .
2. Some pieces , most of them being i5 ones are throttling after heating up while playing extreme games on high .
Dell plusses -
1. ASS . No questions their ASS is best in the computer market .
2. Weaker GPU doesnt heat up .
3. Backlit keyboard .
Minuses -
1. Doesnt look too good .
2. All the plusses of Samsung .
Now I was also skeptical of buying a Samsung laptop but then i analysed considering past trends that -
1. People were skeptical of buying samsung TV's when Bravias were out there but that changed in a very short span and now Samsung TV sales and services are the best .
2. People were skeptical of buying any samsung phone before the Galaxy series .Heck, even the original galaxy s dint sell well enough in India . But they provided good sevice always and now you know what they are .
3. Samsung are world leaders in consumer electronics .
Considering the above points and the offer of 2 year warranty I took the risk , and I am glad I did coz this is absolutely beautiful .
If I would have bought dell it would have been only for one reason , Accidental coverage . But now I will be careful with my laptop.
I hope this was fair and please do correct me and add on to it where wrong.
Regards.
Ps. And though looks are completely subjective I dint quite like the design of the 15rse ( I checked it out in the showroom ) . It was too rounded and the key placements were weird as it dint have a numpad included. Build quality of both seemed pretty nice .
Hrishi
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Digital Fragger
A Functioning God
If you are not planning to game on your laptop, then you can safely go for samsung since the throttling issue was encountered only during extreme gaming.
If you are planning to game, then samsung, since it has a better gpu. anything heats up on extreme gaming.
I would recommend 550p at least for it's better screen.
But if you want to play safe you can go for inspiron. the machine is capable and can handle latest games atleast in gamer settings and it also has backlit.
If you are planning to game, then samsung, since it has a better gpu. anything heats up on extreme gaming.
I would recommend 550p at least for it's better screen.
But if you want to play safe you can go for inspiron. the machine is capable and can handle latest games atleast in gamer settings and it also has backlit.
Go ahead for Samsung 550P. It is the best value for money laptop available in India. You won't regret your purchase. Regarding the heating issues that is common with all consumer laptops, If the dell had the same gpu it would have heated like the same. Consumer Laptops are not made for gaming. Overall, It is a good deal to go for Samsung 550P.
gunner_kanishk
Journeyman
There isn't any heating issue with the Samsung laptop per se.
If anyone makes such a powerful laptop with a great GPU, and you play games at extreme settings on it, it will heat up. It isn't rocket science you know.
None of the i7 owners have faced any throttling issues yet. Those who have seem to be getting them fixed. In anycase if its a driver issue Nvidia will fix it.
If anyone makes such a powerful laptop with a great GPU, and you play games at extreme settings on it, it will heat up. It isn't rocket science you know.
None of the i7 owners have faced any throttling issues yet. Those who have seem to be getting them fixed. In anycase if its a driver issue Nvidia will fix it.
vipulgreattt
Broken In
Problem isnt the heating as has been mentioned in previous posts that IB processor can take it up. Main problem is throttling. Any multimedia laptop will get heat up while playing games at such settings but throttling is different thing. No one can ignore that and go on his way to buy, as its not like some minute trouble.
ratul
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Problem isnt the heating as has been mentioned in previous posts that IB processor can take it up. Main problem is throttling. Any multimedia laptop will get heat up while playing games at such settings but throttling is different thing. No one can ignore that and go on his way to buy, as its not like some minute trouble.
well said, what's the point of getting 650m, when you can't use it to full potential, it'll be like having a hayabusa, but not riding it because fuel here in india is too expensive.. (sorry for this lame comparison..
).if it's a driver issue, it wud probably be fixed by nvidia, but if it's a placement problem (read that processor and 650m are closely placed in sammy, thus heating each other), then...
I'd go for dell for anyone who wants a laptop for a long run (3+years), and sammy for those, who want more powerful configuration @ lesser cost..
As nobody here @ TDF had any samsung laptops earlier, so the reliability and ASS review for the same would be available by next year by the current sammy owners, so everybody, Choose Wisely...
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antisocialbratt
Journeyman
^ 100 % agree with you. And about the plus points mentioned by gunner: Dude looks vary from person to person. Some would feel the Samsung is better for their taste and some would like Dell. You can't call it as a plus point. Its just that you are being a fanboy after the purchase.
All of you are justifying your purchase by saying that we have solved the heating problem by putting two books sunder the laptop or by using the coolerpad. That is the height of fanboyism. A laptop is not supposed to be used in that way. A person buys a laptop so that he can comfortably use it in his lap. Fact is that you should not have to do all that work to make laptop run properly after paying close to 55K.
If you are expecting the driver update to make the heating go away, then keep on dreaming. At best what nvidia would do is release a update which would cap the core clock, shader clock and memory clock to a lower level to keep the GPU cool. Eventually you would lose the edge 650m has over the other laptop GPU's. There a reason why some laptops have 650m LE version in them. Cuz It runs hotter and thus they had to include a better cooling design which would eventually result in increase of overall price.
Here are the points which no Samsung owner has mentioned:
1)Samsung used a i7 which is slightly faster than the dell but consumes more power and produce more heat. Very rarely you would run a program which would use i7's full power thus in real life usage you would never notice the difference in processors unless you run a benchmark. So you gotta ask yourself, is tolerating more heat really worth it?
2) 650m is a beast, there is no doubt about it. It just obliterates the 7730m and 640m. But you can't use it to its full potential without a proper cooling system. Which sadly Sammsung has not provided. Thus the heat from this and the hotter i7 combines with a poor cooling design thus resulting in the throttling you see.
So if you do want to game on your laptop then Samsung is the better choice then Dell but you have to think about investing a 1000 or 2000 bucks more for a cooling pad and get used to carrying the pad with you if you intend to game on the go.
On the other hand if you can forget about the 25% loss in the gaming performance then look no further than Dell. Its a perfect multimedia machine, runs cooler and has better battery life because of the low power consuming GPU and CPU. After Sale Support of Dell is the best in the market and there is no comparison to it. It was hilarious to see someone pointing ASS of samsung as a pro to Dell.
All of you are justifying your purchase by saying that we have solved the heating problem by putting two books sunder the laptop or by using the coolerpad. That is the height of fanboyism. A laptop is not supposed to be used in that way. A person buys a laptop so that he can comfortably use it in his lap. Fact is that you should not have to do all that work to make laptop run properly after paying close to 55K.
If you are expecting the driver update to make the heating go away, then keep on dreaming. At best what nvidia would do is release a update which would cap the core clock, shader clock and memory clock to a lower level to keep the GPU cool. Eventually you would lose the edge 650m has over the other laptop GPU's. There a reason why some laptops have 650m LE version in them. Cuz It runs hotter and thus they had to include a better cooling design which would eventually result in increase of overall price.
Here are the points which no Samsung owner has mentioned:
1)Samsung used a i7 which is slightly faster than the dell but consumes more power and produce more heat. Very rarely you would run a program which would use i7's full power thus in real life usage you would never notice the difference in processors unless you run a benchmark. So you gotta ask yourself, is tolerating more heat really worth it?
2) 650m is a beast, there is no doubt about it. It just obliterates the 7730m and 640m. But you can't use it to its full potential without a proper cooling system. Which sadly Sammsung has not provided. Thus the heat from this and the hotter i7 combines with a poor cooling design thus resulting in the throttling you see.
So if you do want to game on your laptop then Samsung is the better choice then Dell but you have to think about investing a 1000 or 2000 bucks more for a cooling pad and get used to carrying the pad with you if you intend to game on the go.
On the other hand if you can forget about the 25% loss in the gaming performance then look no further than Dell. Its a perfect multimedia machine, runs cooler and has better battery life because of the low power consuming GPU and CPU. After Sale Support of Dell is the best in the market and there is no comparison to it. It was hilarious to see someone pointing ASS of samsung as a pro to Dell.
har
In the zone
Everyone is acting like though the throttling issue is something extreme or something. I faced it once for 15 sec in around 1.5 hours of gaming at 1600*900 res at ultra at 60fps+(7730m cant even dream of that) in Arkham Asylum. Many owners and not facing it anymore. Its really no big deal. The laptop temperatures are perfectly normal !! Its max 90 degrees which is among the coolest ivy bridge. The only fanboyism is see is someone who is trying to justify his own purchase and not waiting for a particular new favourite
And who the hell gave you the idea of a gt650m LE ?? There is no such thing
And the cooling system of samsung is bad ? Hilarious
So its worse than the new MBP and dv6 which runs above 100 degree celcius ?
And a hayabusa which runs at 300km/h for 99.9% of the time is much better than a cbr250r which runs at 200 km/h for 100% of time.
And who the hell gave you the idea of a gt650m LE ?? There is no such thing
And the cooling system of samsung is bad ? Hilarious
So its worse than the new MBP and dv6 which runs above 100 degree celcius ?
And a hayabusa which runs at 300km/h for 99.9% of the time is much better than a cbr250r which runs at 200 km/h for 100% of time.
Hrishi
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It was hilarious to see someone pointing ASS of samsung as a pro to Dell.
Nobody mentioned that , everyone knows the truth.
I can smell a lot of Fanboy-ism here.
abhishekmaha
Broken In
+1 to har...
antisocialbratt, don't turn into the same fanboy you accuse everybody of being...
throttling can be controlled by taking a small break by minimizing the game for a few minutes (this trick was mentioned by daksh
)...just drink some water or something...it's good for the eyes
...
samsung ass may not be as good as dell(i dont know personally)...but they at least do the job eventually...are you really going to abuse your laptop that badly to require accidental onsite warranty??
antisocialbratt, don't turn into the same fanboy you accuse everybody of being...
throttling can be controlled by taking a small break by minimizing the game for a few minutes (this trick was mentioned by daksh
)...just drink some water or something...it's good for the eyes...samsung ass may not be as good as dell(i dont know personally)...but they at least do the job eventually...are you really going to abuse your laptop that badly to require accidental onsite warranty??
antisocialbratt
Journeyman
Yes it does if you try to do a little research. Both dell and Samsung has i7 but both are different models. One is 3612QM and other is 3610QM.
