Have most porn sites just been blocked in India?

[gemini90]

Worse than AIDS? Ask any AIDS patient whether he/she will take up watching pornography 24/7 against having AIDS. If a single one of them says 'NO' I'll inject myself with HIV.

It's not the Gov. who has taken him seriously. It's the court which sees enough merit in the case to not throw it out.

 

[tkin]

[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION] Look through the same link you quoted. First,



Then, 28 August 2014



And as for the same dated order, you forgot to quote the line just next to it -



Atleast, this time the gov can say we blocked the sites when the court itself is expecting some executive action. It is for the court to decide whether that is enough or more is needed.

So what do you think the gov should have done? Come across as a negligent party in the whole event?


And frankly, this fear of hindutwadi brigade has become a phobia with many of the liberal kind. It's like that scene in batman vs superman - 'The red capes are coming! The red capes are coming!' This is the same chaiwalla and his hindutva gov who is on the verge of solving the north-east problem forever.

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He was busy signing the peace deal with NSCN, a far more important achievement than the present issue at hand. And why don't you guys trust the supreme court - the same entity which stuck down IT Act Sec 66a.

Yea, peace deals are always upheld by all the parties all over the world. No one had ever violated a single peace deal in the history of mankind, or the history of India.

 

[gemini90]

Yea, peace deals are always upheld by all the parties all over the world. No one had ever violated a single peace deal in the history of mankind, or the history of India.

So given the history of equal amount of back stabbing and success in peace deals, we should let the wound fester in north-east, giving Vatican church, china and pakistan proxies free ground. Or better yet, let's try to finish the issue militarily against our own people. Come on, the liberals will even get a chance to say told you so to people of india for electing the present government.

 

[Karma]

Who defines what's a culture is ? Is it something stuck in time or something that should evolve with time ? If it's stuck in time then it better be buried in past. Why not bring up Khajuraho and Kamasutra ? Is that not the part of our culture ? Why limit our culture to past 200 years ?

Hinduism restricts promiscuity for men and woman.

Bhagavad Gita 2.62-2.63:

While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises.

From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.


Regarding khajuraho As per upanishads, the sculptors created those pieces of arts is only outside the temple because it signifies that all those feelings must be left outside the temple, before entering the inner sanctum. There are no such sculptures inside the temple. The sculptures are also on Konark temple's exterior. It is a metaphysical symbolism. Hinduism recognizes the role of sexual desires in human lives.There is a difference between Nudity and expression of beauty and pornography. What appears in Hindu puranas are the expressions of genuine beauty and not pornography.

 

[Faun]

from the point of what the overly-moralistic keep spewing, agreed to that (though the denigration part is achieved in the p0rn-industry itself).
but if p0rn is thought to be going to get us new KS and Khajuraho group of monuments, that's stretching it a bit afar (or perhaps i misinterpreted it).

Yeah, but we haven't even reached to a point where an active porn industry is established in India.

At present, people can't even show mild display of affection in public without any fear. Producing KS is still a long way to go. And we are already tightening the noose over film and tv censorship. Over simple words of anatomy or words that can have different meaning depending on context.

 

[gemini90]

Media and the youngsters have their priorities wrong in the name of freedom. Instead of discussing the policies of the executive and legislature acts, we are busy revolting against a porn ban of all things as if it is permanent. So many important initiatives have been taken, deals signed with other countries, etc but no discussion about that.

 

[Faun]

Hinduism restricts promiscuity for men and woman.

Bhagavad Gita 2.62-2.63:

While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises.

From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.


Regarding khajuraho As per upanishads, the sculptors created those pieces of arts is only outside the temple because it signifies that all those feelings must be left outside the temple, before entering the inner sanctum. There are no such sculptures inside the temple. The sculptures are also on Konark temple's exterior. It is a metaphysical symbolism. Hinduism recognizes the role of sexual desires in human lives.There is a difference between Nudity and expression of beauty and pornography. What appears in Hindu puranas are the expressions of genuine beauty and not pornography.

What if I don't subscribe to your Hinduism ? Would you enforce it down my throat ?

Khajuraho accepts that it's natural for people to have sexual desires. And khajuraho doesn't end at mild stuff, it transcends to the extremes of acts if you carefully study the sculptures. Might be a shocker for you. There is far more than simple nudity in khajuraho sculptures. Elaborate acts of various positions with humans but not limited to humans.

Porn just fades in front of that unless you deliberately search for the extremes.

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So given the history of equal amount of back stabbing and success in peace deals, we should let the wound fester in north-east, giving Vatican church, china and pakistan proxies free ground. Or better yet, let's try to finish the issue militarily against our own people. Come on, the liberals will even get a chance to say told you so to people of india for electing the present government.

I am waiting for peace deal with Pakistan. Let's see when that happens, without any back stabbing.

 

[GhorMaanas]

Yea, peace deals are always upheld by all the parties all over the world. No one had ever violated a single peace deal in the history of mankind, or the history of India.

sorry to say, but the cynicism with everything governmental is perhaps a kool-aid of our times esp. with many on forums and SM; perhaps a mix of the mistrust the successive govt.s have earned of the people as well as the influenza caught from the cool breeze flowing from the paranoid americans ("no matter what, hate thy govt.!")

this accord, as i understand, would very importantly atleast bring accountability to the table. this particular faction enjoys more support than its Burmese counterpart, while inter-factional (and tribal) killings (not to forget of our soldiers too), rampant corruption, collection of taxes, levies and extortions had been adding to the woes of the common people in Nagaland and Manipur since long. the presence and support of atleast 19 other top Naga leaders and civil society organisations is not a less thing too. so please let's give some credit where its genuinely due, or atleast refrain from passing unnecessary caustic remarks.

 

[gemini90]

[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION]

I am waiting for peace deal with Pakistan. Let's see when that happens, without any back stabbing.

Deals happen when both sides are interested in it to protect their own interests. And not when one's interest to harm others without fail is unequivocal.

 

[Faun]

[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION]

Deals happen when both sides are interested in it to protect their own interests. And not when one's interest to harm others without fail is unequivocal.

Pretty sure Modi Ji can come up with some plan.

 

[amjath]

Read today's TOI paper, don't know whether it's shared already. "Govt backs down, asks ISP's to block only child porn sites"

 

[gemini90]

Pretty sure Modi Ji can come up with some plan.

He tried. We got Gurdaspur attacks in return. Frankly, the aim should be to break Pakistan with balochistan as a free territory and FATA absorbed by Afghanistan. Let Pakjab be a land locked emasculated country.

 

[tkin]

sorry to say, but the cynicism with everything governmental is perhaps a kool-aid of our times esp. with many on forums and SM; perhaps a mix of the mistrust the successive govt.s have earned of the people as well as the influenza caught from the cool breeze flowing from the paranoid americans ("no matter what, hate thy govt.!")

this accord, as i understand, would very importantly atleast bring accountability to the table. this particular faction enjoys more support than its Burmese counterpart, while inter-factional (and tribal) killings (not to forget of our soldiers too), rampant corruption, collection of taxes, levies and extortions had been adding to the woes of the common people in Nagaland and Manipur since long. the presence and support of atleast 19 other top Naga leaders and civil society organisations is not a less thing too. so please let's give some credit where its genuinely due, or atleast refrain from passing unnecessary caustic remarks.

Would very importantly atleast bring accountability to the table

Accountability, to whom? Do you think they care about accountability? They'll backstab us at the first chance they get, these militant organizations always do, and the people who supported them now or earlier will keep on supporting them even if you show them this treaty. We'll cry foul and scream at newspapers in vein.

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Read today's TOI paper, don't know whether it's shared already. "Govt backs down, asks ISP's to block only child porn sites"

Great news, the government had forgotten Indian people want child labor more than child porn, here people do not have the luxury of watching that sick stuff instead they would rather send their children to work at a coal mine, or try to lure them away from their parents to make them work at a firework factory.

A government that cannot deal with child labor will curb child porn. I'll believe that when Unicorns will fly.

 

[gagan_kumar]

technically i don't see any problem in this ban other than a hit on people's freedom,

Government has already stated they have banned easy availability of porn, it has numerous benefits, for eg childrens who don't know much about computer previuosly just used to google porn to access it now they will really ahve hard time to find it, while on the other hand people who knows even a little about computer would be able to access it........ only easyu access to porn is blocked.....

 

[Desmond]

Dude. Monitoring children's online activities is the parents responsibility. Why do you have to expect the government to do the parents jobs for them?

 

[gagan_kumar]

Dude. Monitoring children's online activities is the parents responsibility. Why do you have to expect the government to do the parents jobs for them?

well that's true but still, with this move many uneducated people(ministers and other sarkari officials) won't be able to browse porn easily in their offices XD

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I am telling you one thing it won't stop people from watching it, there are so many workarounds this block.....

People who really want it will always have torrent.....

 

[GhorMaanas]

Accountability, to whom? Do you think they care about accountability? They'll backstab us at the first chance they get, these militant organizations always do, and the people who supported them now or earlier will keep on supporting them even if you show them this treaty. We'll cry foul and scream at newspapers in vein.

although true, but that is what's one of the critical ways of containing the spill, and is a safeguard meant more for us (including the Naga-Manipuri public) and more than just a stopgap measure; can practically deny the organisation its various escape routes and supply if it tries to turn mischievous again as well as grant us a firmer approach minus the usual accompanying hoopla. a rogue is brought under the law of the land by his own willingness; rest shall follow. text of the accord is awaited and then it would be seen what all does the 'deal' visibly entail. who knows they might clandestinely come in handy or useful Naabedh-style.

 

[Faun]

People who really want it will always have torrent.....

It wont be so long that they ban torrents too. What will you do then ? Frankly, I am not worried about those 800 websites. I don't even knew they existed.

There is information out on internet for everything. How much will you ban and on what pretext do you intend to ban. Reddit has some subs which are nsfw. There is nsfw content on imgur. What happens when ban extends to that too just by association ?

It's a futile exercise.

 

[amjath]

There are free software which parents can use to monitor what your kids searched in google and remove porn links from every site possible even torrent links.

Think like a thief to catch a thief.

 

[ASHISH65]

There are free software which parents can use to monitor what your kids searched in google and remove porn links from every site possible even torrent links.

Think like a thief to catch a thief.

Not possible in india.About 3/4th of the searches for porn in India come from mobile device.and i bet over 90% of parents don't even know how to use computers.Forget about software LOL