Graphics Cards related queries here.

d3p

PowerHouse
i operate to a max resolution of 1440x900... so its not hardcore.. i want it to b of 1GB GDDR5.. is there any good option? PSU-300W..!!
C2D-E4400, DDR2 2GB
i need it for just moderate gaming. like smooth operation of NFS HOT PURSUIT 2010...
price range max 6k...!

I think you are looking for a Graphics Card under 6k for your PC & you have a 300w SMPS or PSU.

Do post which SMPS or PSU you have currently ?? Means the manufacturer & model number if available.

I suggest not to invest in another 570 right now and stay content with a single card.

The reason is , new gpu's are just around the corner and if the early speculation are true, they will obliterate the current gpu's in both performance and rendering techniques. Amd has said that its next gen gpu's will have the ability to render "AVATAR" like in game graphics.

Nvidia is silent about kepler but i think that will also deliver in the same line. Both amd and nvidia are switching to completely new architectures and as rumors suggest, a 10k next-gen card can easily beat a current gen 30k card.

So i think spending so much now is not wise imo. Wait out for next gen cards.:smile:

Thanks for the suggestion Vicky.
In that case, i will hold this upgrade & wait till December or January next year. Anyway thing changes for good & waiting is worth to be waited for.
 

Skud

Super Moderator
Staff member
So what to get then in PSU's.

1. Cooler Master Silent Pro M100w - 9.5k. +ve reviews, but lots of complain for noisy fans at peak loads.
I have used a CM silent pro 600w for more than a year & i never observed it.
Specially i like the anit-vibration pads, which are provided along with the PSU's, which Corsair lag with. Wires are quite long to handle Monster Cabinets & warranty even is good, not a single question asked, as CM rules locally.

2. Corsair AX850w - 11k. Best in its class, no doubts about it.


CM one looks better on paper, providing 80A on its single 12v rail. Provision for 6 6+2 PCI-e connectors mean, it's ready for triple graphics card operation. Only negative I find is that it's a 80+ bronze rated unit compared to Corsair's 80+ Gold rating. But then you are saving 1.5k for it. :)

I think you are looking for a Graphics Card under 6k for your PC & you have a 300w SMPS or PSU.

Do post which SMPS or PSU you have currently ?? Means the manufacturer & model number if available.



Thanks for the suggestion Vicky.
In that case, i will hold this upgrade & wait till December or January next year. Anyway thing changes for good & waiting is worth to be waited for.


Yeah, as I told you earlier, even if newer cards don't perform at the level rumors suggest, prices of current cards are bound to fall, so better to make a purchase only after the next-gen cards are out.
 

d3p

PowerHouse
CM one looks better on paper, providing 80A on its single 12v rail. Provision for 6 6+2 PCI-e connectors mean, it's ready for triple graphics card operation. Only negative I find is that it's a 80+ bronze rated unit compared to Corsair's 80+ Gold rating. But then you are saving 1.5k for it. :)

You are true buddy, with that price i sould not consider anything less than AX850, but my experience says, the current PSU, which i'm using is of the same Family, its handles my current config like a piece of cake.

Yeah, as I told you earlier, even if newer cards don't perform at the level rumors suggest, prices of current cards are bound to fall, so better to make a purchase only after the next-gen cards are out.

Frankly i was expecting a price drop in 560ti, 570's & 580's when 590 was out, but expectation was in vain & no drops in price.
 

Skud

Super Moderator
Staff member
Price of AMD cards are dropping faster compared to nVIDIA atm. Wonder why.

Anyway, 590 being the top end dual GPU card, should have lesser impact on the prices of single GPU cards. That might be the reason.
 

d3p

PowerHouse
Thanks for the inputs fellas, i have decieded to get a Corsair AX850 & wait till next gen launches.
 

d3p

PowerHouse
@Skud:

1. 120GB Vertex 3 or probably a Corsair One.
2. GPU for a friend, undecided yet, soon it will be done.
3. I'm confused whether to get a iphone4 or not. I'm not comfortable with Touch Screen. I'm a kind of old school guy who still love symbian very much as they serve my purpose.

Let see, i will keep some space reserved for my upgrade as my travel seems to be extending till nov-dec.

@Megamind: Think so, but hardly any impact on the local dealers.
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Yeah, as I told you earlier, even if newer cards don't perform at the level rumors suggest, prices of current cards are bound to fall, so better to make a purchase only after the next-gen cards are out.

There was never a moment in history where next gen cards falling short of current gen cards in performance. This has never happened & never will happen. Against the law of microprocessors.

The next gen gpu's will beat the heck out of current gen cards like never before.
Amd has already given a hint.
 
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Skud

Super Moderator
Staff member
I suggest not to invest in another 570 right now and stay content with a single card.

The reason is , new gpu's are just around the corner and if the early speculation are true, they will obliterate the current gpu's in both performance and rendering techniques. Amd has said that its next gen gpu's will have the ability to render "AVATAR" like in game graphics.

Nvidia is silent about kepler but i think that will also deliver in the same line. Both amd and nvidia are switching to completely new architectures and as rumors suggest, a 10k next-gen card can easily beat a current gen 30k card.

So i think spending so much now is not wise imo. Wait out for next gen cards.:smile:


When have this happened? 6850 was not better than 5970 and 480, not even better than 5870/5850 or 470/460 (1gb). So is the case of 550Ti & 560 (non Ti). Even the upper end 6950 and 560Ti failed to beat 480/5870 conclusively. Neither it had happened previously. How can you say a 10k 6xx or 7xxx card going to beat today's 30k cards?
 

d3p

PowerHouse
@Skud: 550ti was targeted for Mid end like 5770 & 6850. Same with other level of competition segments.
 
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MegaMind

Human Spambot
When have this happened? 6850 was not better than 5970 and 480, not even better than 5870/5850 or 470/460 (1gb). So is the case of 550Ti & 560 (non Ti). Even the upper end 6950 and 560Ti failed to beat 480/5870 conclusively. Neither it had ever happened previously.

Actually, it goes like this...

gtx 560 > gtx 460, gtx 570 > gtx 470, gtx 580 > gtx 480

6770 > 5770, 6850 ~= 5850, ....

Vicky has stated 'as rumors suggest'...
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
When have this happened? 6850 was not better than 5970 and 480, not even better than 5870/5850 or 470/460 (1gb). So is the case of 550Ti & 560 (non Ti). Even the upper end 6950 and 560Ti failed to beat 480/5870 conclusively. Neither it had happened previously. How can you say a 10k 6xx or 7xxx card going to beat today's 30k cards?

Read the post properly before commenting. Do care to read sometimes before posting blindly.

I said it has never happened in history that next gen gpu's underperforming current gen gpu's. Don't try to mix things up.
10k card beating a 30k card is a pure speculation.

Btw radeon 5 series & 6 series share the same underlying architecture i.e VLIW.

7 series will feature the compute engines and amd is saying that they will be capable of doing things which are impossible to do in current 6 series cards. They will be that much better according to AMD.

So as per speculations , a 10k card beating a 30k card is a huge possibility.
Don't compare 5850 with 6850 or 480 with 580. They share same architectures but this (7xxx series) is something radically different.
 

Skud

Super Moderator
Staff member
@megamind and vicky: tell me an instance where that 10k new card beating 30k old card actually happened. Granted, it may happen for the first time in the history, but this is what I have written, read properly:-

"even if newer cards don't perform at the level rumors suggest"

Where have I doubted that next gen cards will fall short of current gen cards in performance? I have only told debashish that even if the new cards are not up to the rumored level, if he wants to SLI his 570, that would be the better time to get another 570, not now. And he is already having some doubts over selling his current 570 as it was bought in US and doesn't carry any local warranty.

And regarding this architecture change and all, that is interesting no doubt, but we already have FX 5800 and Radeon 2900XT in the history. ;)
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
^^ Never happened but expect the unexpected from now on.:wink:

The difference is that you were being a bit pessimistic. Previously, gpu's never scaled 2x which is happening now. So you know a 10k gpu thrashing a 30k card is again a probability.
In the days of 2900xt it was only ATI. Now with amd taking over, their gpu segment has completely transformed. So again expect the unexpected.

We will again discuss on this topic when next gen cards get launched. It won't be only about churning fps but exploiting the API's like never before & rendering something previously impossible.
 
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Skud

Super Moderator
Staff member
And AMD is reportedly telling the world that API (read DirectX) is holding back the real potential of the GPU. ;)
 

Skud

Super Moderator
Staff member
And its impossible to make you understand a joke. ;)

But that API thing is not a joke, it was probably in HardOCP, can't remember, google for it. If I get it in the meantime I will post the link.
 
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