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[sumonpathak]

^^
Even the extreme 6 has an llc issue?!? Link please

i set 1.24 at bios....the bugger takes it to 1.35...guess its ok..
this forum is seeing its share of asrock fever..i will let it pass...
get the extreme 6....

 

[Saumil996]

i set 1.24 at bios....the bugger takes it to 1.35...guess its ok..

You have an extreme 6 ?!?
From where and for how much did you get it for?

 

[dfcols71]

look in this link you will get the info
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/cpu-motherboards/145988-asrock-biostar-motherboard-sellers-india-5.html
besides its available at hardwire.in-12999/-,do enquire in primeabgb also

 

[sumonpathak]

You have an extreme 6 ?!?
From where and for how much did you get it for?

got it from a friend in UK...sent it back...was thoroughly disgusted...

 

[MatchBoxx]

erm...kinda told u in the post u quoted

ooops. didn't notice it.

 

[Saumil996]

Another thing thing I wanted to tell you guys is that I am going for the dell st2220l and not the benq model after reading about desijatt's and rigod's experience with it.
Any other monitor out there which is more vfm than the dell?

Finally the motherboard problem.
it sort of finally boils down to
ATX and bad LLC vs mATX and good LLC
Will have to see which one carries more weight

 

[MatchBoxx]

^^ i have the Dell ST2220L. Its awesome!

 

[d6bmg]

Another thing thing I wanted to tell you guys is that I am going for the dell st2220l and not the benq model after reading about desijatt's and rigod's experience with it.
Any other monitor out there which is more vfm than the dell?

Finally the motherboard problem.
it sort of finally boils down to
ATX and bad LLC vs mATX and good LLC
Will have to see which one carries more weight

Dell ST2220L is better than BenQ2222HDL. But both have color bleeding problem which is normal with all TN panel LED monitors.

 

[MatchBoxx]

seems good...but still am scared for the llc issue...
better get an asus

these minute overclocking details and issues should be a concern for pro-overclockers, (which you are), but i don't think that common users like me, OP should be much concerned about these issues. If the PC runs smooth and healthy with asrock, why should he give a damn about llc!!? OP isn't going to set a world record for overclocking, i guess. TDF veterans have advised OP as loud and clear as they could, now it's his call.

 

[dfcols71]

i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

 

[sumonpathak]

these minute overclocking details and issues should be a concern for pro-overclockers, (which you are), but i don't think that common users like me, OP should be much concerned about these issues. If the PC runs smooth and healthy with asrock, why should he give a damn about llc!!? OP isn't going to set a world record for overclocking, i guess. TDF veterans have advised OP as loud and clear as they could, now it's his call.

yup.....but the problem is anything over 4Ghz will cause issues for him

i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

Get your facts right boy...
every Z77 board from Asus uses Realtek audio chip..except the maximus V Gene
If you don't know about anything else other than a specific brand then talk about that brand only...don't spread false info...

 

[dfcols71]

did you read any reviews read this
Well, that kind of depends what you want. The MSI one got a couple of advantages over the Asus one

- Z77A-GD65 comes with a much better Audio Chip, ALC898. While the Asus one got ALC892. Bot of them got intel nics, which is good.
- Z77A-GD65 have lower power consumption than the Asus one

Which ASUS Z77 motherboard? - General-Motherboard - Motherboards-Memory

also see this
20 Intel Z77 motherboards reviewed and compared | Hardware.Info United Kingdom

and this
20 Intel Z77 motherboards reviewed and compared | Hardware.Info United Kingdom
read reviews before commenting on any issue,not buzz out unsubstantiated rumors

 

[d6bmg]

i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

did you read any reviews read this
Well, that kind of depends what you want. The MSI one got a couple of advantages over the Asus one

- Z77A-GD65 comes with a much better Audio Chip, ALC898. While the Asus one got ALC892. Bot of them got intel nics, which is good.
- Z77A-GD65 have lower power consumption than the Asus one

Another

FYI: Remember a simple rule, except for GD80 (which is one of the top boards made on that particular chipset), and in some rare cases GD65 (not applicable here), MSI boards are as bad as any board many by low end company.

 

[sumonpathak]

read reviews before commenting on any issue,not buzz out unsubstantiated rumors

what rumors?
ever tried running any chip over its rated speed?then u will know what llc is..and y u need it....

anyhoo....
U were hell bent on asrock...now u shifted to MSI...sound like a asus hater to me or just posting for post counts...
If you have tried too see at the bigger picture...Op would have benefitted from the Asus..even a GB..
But since no one is bothered...its better not to talk to walls...
oh and btw....if the OP is a true audiophile...he will buy a sound card..
For me...its just doesn't matter....i pointed out about the chips because u said stuffs like they have intel audio chips and all.
From the same review...i link some stats.
*uk.hardware.info/reviews/2672/19/2...gy-consumption-without-separate-graphics-card
power consumption
3D Mark Vantage
Z77 Xtreme 4=112Watt
Mpro=97Watt
Gd 65=91.1Watt
Cinebench
Z77 Xtreme 4=110 watt
Mpro=94.6 Watt
Gd 65=88.1 Watt
Idle
Z77 Xtreme 4=49.1 Watt
Mpro= 44.1 Watt
Gd 65=35.7 watt

GD 65 Should consume low power because the no of on-board peripherals are low

So considering the recent state of power cost Z77 Extreme 4 should not be considered.
As higher power consumption=high power cost=bigger hole in pocket.

EDIT=ninja'd by d6bmg

 

[MatchBoxx]

what rumors?
ever tried running any chip over its rated speed?then u will know what llc is..and y u need it....

anyhoo....
U were hell bent on asrock...now u shifted to MSI...sound like a asus hater to me or just posting for post counts...
If you have tried too see at the bigger picture...Op would have benefitted from the Asus..even a GB..
But since no one is bothered...its better not to talk to walls...
oh and btw....if the OP is a true audiophile...he will buy a sound card..
For me...its just doesn't matter....i pointed out about the chips because u said stuffs like they have intel audio chips and all.
From the same review...i link some stats.
20 Intel Z77 motherboards reviewed and compared | Hardware.Info United Kingdom
power consumption
3D Mark Vantage
Z77 Xtreme 4=112Watt
Mpro=97Watt
Gd 65=91.1Watt
Cinebench
Z77 Xtreme 4=110 watt
Mpro=94.6 Watt
Gd 65=88.1 Watt
Idle
Z77 Xtreme 4=49.1 Watt
Mpro= 44.1 Watt
Gd 65=35.7 watt

GD 65 Should consume low power because the no of on-board peripherals are low

So considering the recent state of power cost Z77 Extreme 4 should not be considered.
As higher power consumption=high power cost=bigger hole in pocket.

EDIT=ninja'd by d6bmg

told ya. [underlined quote]

 

[dfcols71]

you have given no of evidence of asrock mobo llc problems ,if it your personal views stick it with yourself, if some can live without the ivy bridge ,i dont see any problems with slightly increased power consumption ,year a 16000 board + soundcard , your posts shows you are blind asus believer

 

[MatchBoxx]

you have given no of evidence of asrock mobo llc problems ,if it your personal views stick it with yourself, if some can live without the ivy bridge ,i dont see any problems with slightly increased power consumption ,year a 16000 board + soundcard , your posts shows you are blind asus believer

you can't really blame ASUS for making nice products.

 

[dfcols71]

besides thre asrock has the Audio Chip, ALC898

my comments where addressed to sumon pathak

besides why dont you link all the stats to show asus in true picture

d6mbg and suman pathak keep your personal preference to yourselves instead of trying to gang against a mobo manufacturer without any evidence at all

 

[Saumil996]

i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

I am not an audiophile i lived with an extremely shitty Mitashi headphones for months so sound ain't a problem

yup.....but the problem is anything over 4Ghz will cause issues for him

What kind of problems(just curious)

Anyway I have finally come to a decision I AM NOT BUYING THE ASROCK EXTREME 4/6.

My reasons are

1. 4 Ghz is too less i was thinking of overclocking it to 4.5
2. I am ditching the SLI feature because i had planned to SLI the card after 2-3 years and it would be stupid to do that because after 3 years a better card will obviously come along and it would be wiser to go for that then going for another GTX 670.

Does my second point make sense?

Anyway i have narrowed my list down to
1. Asus p877 v-lx
2. Gigabyte GA Z-77 d3h (If i can find it in the market)

 

[dfcols71]

yours choice ,afterall its your money

besides if you think the asrock cant overclock greatly you are extremely mistaken,especially asrockz77 extreme-6