Frequent blowing up of SMPS

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Ronnie11

Judgement Time!!
wow....u are damn lucky indeed....my graphics card blew up because of this...get a good power supply dude...
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Ohhhh.......so do you know the brand and wattage of that SMPS??

It's not necessary that branded PC's wont bundle a good SMPS.

as far as i heard, almost all branded PC with low end or no graphics card comes mainly with 350W. looks like they got common supplier.

But 9800gtx on 350W PSU that even w/o external pwr supply luks wired. It should've BOOM'ed or FUSS'ed. Are you sure?? Does he plays at highest possible settings continuously??

If yes.......luks like u and ur friends came with inborn luck :)

it doesn't matter. high or low resolution. that graphics card will kick any desi PSU's a**. however without external power? its like running a GTS250 without any external power. how did his card survived so long? its VRM, memory chips, caps, etc. all should have failed one by one.

i m more curious to know how this happens than my 4th sem results ;-)

Ya...!! Call them yaar. BTW report all these issues to other tech forums and news. TDF will became more famous. And specially your friend. Chances are he'll get thousands of awards for running 9800gtx in 350W (bundled)PSU w/o any external pwr supply continuously. :smile:

well i only online here. i don't sit in any other forum. TDF suites me & my style best.

yes, his friend ( & OP maybe too) will become overnite hero & TDF the platform again (after resolving TopGear's monitor issue).
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
@OP:
Good to hear, that your friend managed to run his 9800GT on a 350W PSU. Rest assured you have had some bad experiences regarding PSUs. Do what all are advising you here, and try not to mimic/replicate stunts which others have pulled off. Get a decent PSU, you should be fine. Enjoy the accelerator, it is great. Best of luck. Go for a minimal 450W PSU, which is branded. Let us know if you are interested, we can advice. Speculation leads to just bandwidth wastage.
 
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satyatheunfair

Broken In
its true that branded companies give 350w with no pciexp slots........
my friend upgraded the comp........ie mother board, ram, hdd etc.......
but was unable to change the SMPS because the smps was some thing unique power socket to connect the tft monitor..........
so if he had changed the smps ...then.. he would had to change the monitor too ............ so he didn't change the smps.......:)
 

mavihs

Techie By Heart
^^ WTF! :O :O :O
@satyatheunfair
where do you live? Also which SMPS is your vendor asking you to buy? & do you have a spike buster or UPS connected to you system?
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
its true that branded companies give 350w with no pciexp slots........
my friend upgraded the comp........ie mother board, ram, hdd etc.......
but was unable to change the SMPS because the smps was some thing unique power socket to connect the tft monitor..........
so if he had changed the smps ...then.. he would had to change the monitor too ............ so he didn't change the smps.......:)

mhm. a little more proper english will be highly appreciated. how the hell can PSU & monitor be connected? monitor gets power differently & PSU differently.

not able get anything except slight headache
 
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satyatheunfair

Broken In
i live in ranchi....
i dont know about the company......... but vendor told me that it will cost near about Rs.4000/-
yes i have both spike buster & ups installed......... but a case is there that there is no battery back up,,,,,, system goes of when light fluctuates....!!!!!!!!!!!

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ahhhhhh. now this time i'm right......
the whole system was a branded box pack.......
and thus the monitor was gettin power supply from the smps only,,,,,
and it's also a fact that we (either u or i or else) can't use that montor without that particular smps..........
if the smps is gone .... the monitor is also gone............
 

mavihs

Techie By Heart
i live in ranchi....
sad....i wanted to meet your friend!
i dont know about the company......... but vendor told me that it will cost near about Rs.4000/-
you should enquir about that!
yes i have both spike buster & ups installed......... but a case is there that there is no battery back up,,,,,, system goes of when light fluctuates....!!!!!!!!!!!
if you have a spike buster then the voltage wasn't the probs!

and it's also a fact that we (either u or i or else) can't use that montor without that particular smps..........
if the smps is gone .... the monitor is also gone............
is it a CRT monitor? also is the monitor power connector a 3 pin connector?
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
@satyatheunfair:
Yes you are correct. SMPS/and monitor connectivity of that type did exist. I had a system like that once. The monitor (probably a CRT) take the power from the SMPS. The connecting cable is like this. Where the male (silver pins), goes into the SMPS, and the other side connects to the monitor. SMPSs' of this type had two points at the back. One was for the electrical input, and one was to provide output to the monitor, using the type of cable I have shown.

Do you also need this type of design..??
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
@satyatheunfair:
Yes you are correct. SMPS/and monitor connectivity of that type did exist. I had a system like that once. The monitor (probably a CRT) take the power from the SMPS. The connecting cable is like this. Where the male (silver pins), goes into the SMPS, and the other side connects to the monitor. SMPSs' of this type had two points at the back. One was for the electrical input, and one was to provide output to the monitor, using the type of cable I have shown.

Do you also need this type of design..??

than the PSU must be a good one. cause the CPU as well as the monitor drawing power from the PSU. i using a bad PSU. a iBall 400W to power my half dead pc. and it got the same type of points too. 2 points. 1 for the power in & 2nd is not in use.
 
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satyatheunfair

Broken In
na its a simple one

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may be that it is a good one but the fact is that it is 350w and the system is running 9800gtx without ext power......
fact........... no extra sata power cable was supplied by the smps that even an other hdd can be added........
my friend got to buy an ext 500gb segate hdd
 

ajai5777

Youngling
I had been running My old p4 3ghz in a frontech 400W for 5yrs.I have run 9500GT in that rig with the same SMPS for 1year.My current rig was run in a zebronics 450W for 3 months.A HD 5670 was run in that rig for 1 month in that local SMPS.
From my experience I'll say Local SMPS rocks!!.Anyway I have changed my PSU to Zebronics Pro 500 in order to change my mother board and to add an HDD.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
@OP:
The 9800GT requires 2x PEG 6 pin connectors. I am not sure, how the card is running with NO external connectors from the SMPS. Either you are not sure of your friends configuration, or he does not have a 9800GTX, or he does not game [stress] the GPU, so it is running on the 75W via the PCI.E bridge.

Ajai:
Please do not justify using local SMPS for GPUs. The GPU you have, hardly consumes power. It will hardly go beyond 75W. The 9800GTX is much beyond this. It will clearly mislead people here. Put a 4870 or GTX280 in there, and the smoke rise within 5 minutes.

This thread is quite pointless. The OP is not taking any advice, nor providing any value addition. Instead we are speculating/arguing about how the OPs friend is running a 9800GTX with external connectors on a local PSU. Not possible. If you want to hear a yes from us. YES, PLEASE RUN YOUR GPU ON A LOCAL PSU. We are waiting here, when you come back with problems regarding your system OR will guide you to purchase new parts once the local psu fails -- and takes out other components.

Am done here.
 
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satyatheunfair

Broken In
if u think so that i'm lying then ...... i'm verry sorry to u...
but i'm 100% sure for what i said earlier......

but it true too that i was wrong some were in my knowledge....
i said that he is using 9800gtx.... but he is actually using 9600gt
i said that he is using 350w smps....but actual is 300w { manufactured by- delta electronics incorporation ..... model no- DPS-300
TB A}
now these facts are 100% true by my knowledge..........
and i dont know what do u think about it.......
and also i wana tell u that HE IS A TRUE GAMER.
 

krishnandu.sarkar

Simply a DIGITian
Staff member
Well.....I'd like to add one thing. Members are here for providing solutions and suggestions. It's up to us that whether we'll listen to them or not.

@OP The problem you posted to us, we've posted the solution and suggestion too. Now it's really up to you what you want to do. Don't take it hardly. If you're happy with local PSU then go ahed. Ignore us. It it runs ok...tats it...!! But remember not to come back and blame us for providing bad/vogus suggestions if your pc blows up.
 
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