Enquiry

[anirbandd]

i would like to know the following-

1) processor....intel or amd(considering i will play games 55% of the time and work 45% of the time).....if intel then is i5 2500k better than i5 3570k ( 32nm and 22 nm ) if amd then is it a good option buying an fx 8150 with liquid cooling(package) or buying n fx 8350 and buying a cooler seperately............i would run my system 16-20 hours a day

things i missed in my initial enquiry.....i though of spending the 60-65 i have now mainly in the gpu section the rest i thought of compromising....in 3-4 months after this purchase i was thinking of getting a decent motherboard and after that the multiple monitor setup and the grooming part of the beast.....is it a good idea or something else would be appreciated

the 2000 and 3000 are series of intel core procs. 2000 is the 2nd gen, 3000 is the 3rd gen. the i5 3570k is better than the 2500k interms of higher clock and max TDP.

32nm and 22nm are manufacturing processes. they signify the gate width the fabrication process can produce. smaller gate width is better because it will mean smaller transistors, which means increase in transistor packing density, which means increase in the no. of transistors in the same area of the silicon die, which means increased computation power. it also means a reduce in the heat outpur of the proc.

so 22nm is better than 32nm.

the TDP is reduced in 3570k, so the stock cooler will be able to manage the heat dissipation in normal usage with stock clock, but incase you really will be running the rig 16-18hrs a day, with a lot of OC, then a custom cooler is must. maybe water cooling.

and for multimonitor setup for gaming, go for 7950 CF. 7950 can be OCed like hell and with the latest beta drivers offer a stiff competition to nvidia conterparts.

 

[Godoftheforbiddenlight]

Processor fx 8350 12000
Motherboard Asus M5A97 Motherboard 6600
RAM G Skill Sniper 2x4Gb 3000
Hard Drive Seagate 1Tb 4050
Graphics Card Asus Direct CU2T HD7970 30500
Power Supply Corsair GS600 4400
Cabinet NZXT Guardian 921 4500
Optical Drive Asus 1050
Monitor Samsung S22B370H 8500
UPS APC 1.1 kva 4700
keyboard & mouse Logitech 700

this is what i have planned so far i increased my budget from 65 to 80k now.......i have planned to change to a good motherboard soon enough after this...............tell me if this is a good config or suggest alternatives amd or intel doesn't matter

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

this is what i have planned so far i increased my budget from 65 to 80k now.......i have planned to change to a good mother soon enough after this...............tell me if this is a good config or suggest alternatives amd or intel doesn't matter

lol wut?
and get a WD caviar blue 1 tb instead of caviar green

this is what i have planned so far i increased my budget from 65 to 80k now.......i have planned to change to a good mother soon enough after this...............tell me if this is a good config or suggest alternatives amd or intel doesn't matter

lol wut?
and get a WD caviar blue 1 tb instead of caviar green
also aget a 700 watt psu asuming that ur OCing

 

[draco21]

Ok maybe 660ti is a better in gaming but that is it..

nvidia is only good for gaming not other works....

Also thanks d6bmg for the info on mobo(I am a noob and this forum is best place to learn) I thought only having similar socket type is enough but learnt there is more to it....

BTW Why is AOC monitors crap??

I would say just leave 7970 for now get a 7950 and add another later (For now invest on a better MOBO that supports CF)

 

[Godoftheforbiddenlight]

i need a good system man :/ trying so hard to get this right......took a loan from my sister of 15k........lets hope i get what i want

P.s i am dreaming about this from a very small age.....waited a long time

 

[draco21]

Why i would go with i5 = it gets more recommendation in many places( just google search) example *www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=387293

They draw less power(am sure of it) and can be oc'ed to 5Ghz and its 4 cores are faster than the 8 cores AMD has (unnecessary for gaming)

Whatever you choose remember no overclocking without a good PSU and a good cooling system.

Good luck buddy

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

They draw less power(am sure of it) and can be oc'ed to 5Ghz and its 4 cores are faster than the 8 cores AMD has (unnecessary for gaming)

fx 8350 can be OC'ed to 8.79ghz(if you have nitrogen cooling)

 

[anirbandd]

Why i would go with i5 = it gets more recommendation in many places( just google search) example [D] AMD FX-8350 or Intel i5-3570K?

They draw less power(am sure of it) and can be oc'ed to 5Ghz and its 4 cores are faster than the 8 cores AMD has (unnecessary for gaming)

Whatever you choose remember no overclocking without a good PSU and a good cooling system.

Good luck buddy

thanks for your enthusiasm brother, but you need some serious reading before advising people on PC builds.

 

[sumonpathak]

@God
go for the FX

 

[draco21]

[D] AMD FX-8350 or Intel i5-3570K?

FX 8350 vs i5 3570k (Overclocking) (Gaming) - Graphics-Cards - Graphic-Displays

AnandTech - Bench - CPU

*forums.hardwaresecrets.com/fx-8350-i5/9115?

*answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121116170028AAHreWQ
i5 beats 8350 in most games......(What i read)

Did you read something different somewhere??

Also please tell me why you would suggest 8350 i want to learn too....

"fx 8350 can be OC'ed to 8.79ghz(if you have nitrogen cooling)"

That is sick....

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

^You will get lessons on FX from cilus,sumon and other memebrs

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/technology-news/168396-8-79ghz-fx-8350-fastest-ever-cpu.html

 

[Godoftheforbiddenlight]

i have decided that i will go with fx 8350 as i do get into situation where i am compiling doing catia work listenng to music playing games etc.....while doing one the rest remains in the background...i guess the fx series would be my best bet at the moment...and as for gpu do i go for 7950 7970 or as cilus suggested 7870....also which brand to go with i have seen the same card of different card possesing difference in core clock speed...............please guys suggest me a complete config with the brand names aswell

also try to give the approx price for reference

 

[d6bmg]

BTW Why is AOC monitors crap??

Being an OEM company, they don't have good quality management stuffs for their products which they sold directly to their customers.

 

[hitman4]

Ok maybe 660ti is a better in gaming but that is it..

nvidia is only good for gaming not other works....

please give source from where you read that.

 

[The Incinerator]

Being an OEM company, they don't have good quality management stuffs for their products which they sold directly to their customers.

I just couldnt get that.Could you explain that a bit.

 

[draco21]

Radeon HD 7950 vs. GeForce GTX 660 Ti revisited - The Tech Report - Page 1

4 December so i guess they used latest drivers.....

Anywhere you read otherwise??

Also AOC is not that bad as you think

As for OP, HD 7950 can handle everything without any worries for at least 1 year but if budget allows, go HD 7970. It's your wish anyways(if you fell AA and all are worth 6000-8000 more)

 

[saswat23]

[D] AMD FX-8350 or Intel i5-3570K?

FX 8350 vs i5 3570k (Overclocking) (Gaming) - Graphics-Cards - Graphic-Displays

AnandTech - Bench - CPU

*forums.hardwaresecrets.com/fx-8350-i5/9115?

*answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121116170028AAHreWQ
i5 beats 8350 in most games......(What i read)

Did you read something different somewhere??

Also please tell me why you would suggest 8350 i want to learn too....

"fx 8350 can be OC'ed to 8.79ghz(if you have nitrogen cooling)"

That is sick....

No doubt i5 beats FX-8350 in gaming, but in heavy multitasking its the other way round.
And softwares that OP will be using will definitely benefit from it.

 

[gagan_kumar]

fx 8350 can be OC'ed to 8.79ghz(if you have nitrogen cooling)

one would have to be like very rich if they want to do that......

 

[draco21]

@ saswat23

Yes i realised it now (Thanks to cilius)

 

[Cilus]

Buddy, FX-8350's overclocking potential, even with a good 3K/4K Air Cooler is higher than any Ivy Bridge Processors. The Ivy Bridge Silicon Die is based on Intel's 1st implementation of Tri-Gate Transistors and being the 1st version, has some flaws. Ivy Bridge gets unstable after 4.6 GHz and it is extremely hard to cross 4.8 GHz speed, no matter how pricey cooler you use. The flaw is in the chip design and that's why overclockers around the world still prefers Sandy Bridge Processors for Overclocking.


If OP is in gaming, i5 3570 makes perfect sense but for applications OP has mentioned, the only competitor FX-8350 has is i7 2600K, priced at 18K. So, your choice. Also in the reviews, the testing is very strait forward, not exploring the special features and tweaking you will get with a FX series CPU. I have used 8150 and now using 8350 and with my FX-8150 @ 4.2 GHz and certain tweaks under Windows 7, I have reached the performance of i7 3960X, a $700 Processor, in certain Benchmarks in AID 64 Extreme Edition.

Let me explain a little: in the Video Encoding section, all the reviewers just convert a 1920X1080P Bluray or MPGE2 video to MP4 or MKV format, playable for portable devices like Ipad, Tabs etc. But those settings are not at all for any Professional level work. H264 does have three profiles, Baseline for Ipod, Phones, Main for Tablets and High for true HD Media Players or powerful Tablets. Now under each setting, there are plenty of options like Search algorithm, Quantification, B Frame and Reference Frame count, CABAC algorithm, Motion Vector Detection etc. If you enable all those settings under the encoder (for example Handbrake, TEncoder), the video encoding becomes extremely heavy but produces the best output and can bring most of the Intel QUAD Core Non-HT CPUs to its Knees. Here you will see how FX-8350 performs. I have tested and know how good it is. Also advantage of FMA instruction helps here.

Now here is the catch, actually the example I have given is more suited for a guy who wants Professional level Encoding and FX is the perfect choice. I don't want to buy a Rs 14000 Intel Processor like i5 3570K for video conversion....for my Ipod and say that look........both AMD FX-8350 and i5 3570K performs similar in multi-threaded video encoding.