Crysis 2

[Skud]

Probably AI here is Absence of Intelligence.

 

[asingh]

Most of the sequels that have come out, I have found the original to be the best. Dead Space 2 probably was an exception. Even if the AI of Cry2 had been at par, I still found the story childesh and lame-a**ed. There were far to much dramatics and the cut scenes were irritants, instead of enhances. The suit always speaking was distracting. Immersion was just not there. I finished it why --- just another shooter. And I try to play all the PC shooters which come out. Half the time we were trying to dock the damn suit, and were trolled by the nth sense of Prophet -- which is also the last line of the damn game. The Aliens were thrown in for the heck of it, and the Pinger or Pinga or what ever were dumber than the sentinels even. Cry1 had me gunning and running for discovery and adventure the second I landed in the water. My heart was beating. "Rock Solid Heart Throbbing".

The only thing raising the difficulty level does for Cry2 is that your energy depletes quicker with each hit. The AI intelligence is the same.

 

[tkin]

To all those who are having old save game load issues, a fix has been launched by "---DOX", the original "----row" file had this issue, FYI.

 

[skeletor]

You mean it for Crysis Direct3D renderer? Or for Direct3D 9 in general?

No idea about that. I mean, GTA IV is D3D 9 afaik. Benefits hugely from four cores. Depends again on how you design the game in general.

 

[tkin]

You mean it for Crysis Direct3D renderer? Or for Direct3D 9 in general?

No, not for DX9(direct 3d 9 if you will), the reason is most probably DX11 multithreading, its a feature with DX11(already implemented by Civilization 5), probably crysis 2 uses some variation of it.

 

[gameranand]

Then its clear you haven't applied that patch.

And about the crysis 2 >>>> crysis remark ,its applies for everybody who has atleast played that game in its full glory & not bluffing around.

Clearly you haven't followed this thread then. Its not just for me but for many. And hey about stupid AI what do you a want a youtube link of review in which they stated that it seems like they came to hang out. Wait till eve as I am in hurry right now and gotta go out of city. When I'll come back I can give a review of a nice site stating that AI many times don't respond to you. Heck I had some momemts when I circle around anemy and he was like I am his pal. What the hell was that. Ans what about that stealth trick. If its in the game then its meant to be used means that game's AI is stupid. I already said that they come and flank me. Why don't you just believe that its just a simple and average shooter as already stated by asingh and come and post that game is awesome. I already posted that a game takes 4 months after release date to bring texture pack and so many patches that its now 1.9. Seriously ??? And you say that game is awesome. Does 1.9 doesn't clearly inflict that game had so many bugs that it has been patched many times in small amount of time. Why you keep bragging that game is very good when its simply not. You say play in post human difficulty. I ask you why the hell I didn't played Crysis 1 on delta mode well I did but after completeing it 2 or 3 times. Hard mode and heck even normal mode was challenging for me in Crysis there were no stealth exploits so that I can dispatch the entire group without being shot. Now please don't come saying that its a goddamn feature as suite is upgraded. If suit was upgraded they should have upgraded enemies also which actually they toned down. Or maybe you are so bad in fps that you find Crysis 2 very hard if that the case then I can't help it but dude Crysis 2 had lamer AI than previous games and thats the truth.
And I don't bluff around about completing the game alright. I have completed this game more or less two times and this game isn't worth my time to play it third time. Is it so hard for you to understand???

 

[vickybat]

^^It doesn't matter if i had followed the thread or not but you haven't played the game.. I don't know but i had no AI issues lately. AI is pretty smart especially the aliens. Perhaps the developers made the game a bit forgiving for lesser difficulties just like graphics. So i cannot agree with you about the AI here cause i find it superior than many other games if not the original crysis. I don't believe anybody because i have played the game myself.

One thing you can say is that crysis2 is inferior to crysis in terms of story and open world gameplay. The boss fights in crysis 2 su**k*d big time.The whole story was lame as well and i agree with asingh on that.

But graphically, its a different beast and shows the true potential of cryengine 3. I would say its the best dx11 game out there today and certainly is superior to crysis in pure visual looks. This is not the final game from the developers and expect some blockbuster titles that will use cryengine 3. Anybody having a powerful DX11 card will definitely agree with this. Dx9 owners won't but they can still enjoy high res textures.

But one thing is certain that graphically, crysis 2 >>>>crysis especially in dx11 mode and high res rextures. Those who disagree , haven't played the game in these settings including you. You might have played in lower settings and that's fine. But you can't comment on graphics based on that. Nobody will believe you pal and you do bluff around. Your posts prove the same.

 

[Reaper_vivek]

The AI is good...I played in veteran...an the human soldiers did flank me...I died becoz I was reloading and he just jumped beside me...and if you fire a shot(not silenced) even in cloak mode...the enemies slowly come to that position..

Visually...you can't compare these too...they are in a completely opposite setup...Despite that...the city of crysis 2 looks realistic...more than what the jungles of Crysis looked like(they were awesome bt not as realistic as this)...

The difference in DX11 and DX9 isn't much....bt once you install the high textures patch...U'll know it...

In terms of story....Crysis wins...as it was quite good...

 

[Zangetsu]

vickybat & gameranand do this and not this

 

[gameranand]

^^It doesn't matter if i had followed the thread or not but you haven't played the game.. I don't know but i had no AI issues lately.

Well I can't help it if you think that I haven't played this game at all now can I. Like you said you didn't faced any bugs but I had many others also did.

i find it superior than many other games if not the original crysis. I don't believe anybody because i have played the game myself.

thats what I wanted to hear. Crysis 2 AI is average at best as compared to Crysis 1 and I said that before nothing else. I didn't compared it to AI of any game except Crysis and maybe Far Cry and FEAR in this thread earlier.
But there are some AI tricks which if exploited then game is a walk in the park except for several occasions in the game.

But graphically, its a different beast and shows the true potential of cryengine 3. I would say its the best dx11 game out there today and certainly is superior to crysis in pure visual looks. This is not the final game from the developers and expect some blockbuster titles that will use cryengine 3. Anybody having a powerful DX11 card will definitely agree with this. Dx9 owners won't but they can still enjoy high res textures.

No need to mention that its also latest DX11 game so it should take that crown if not then this game is certainly a fail.

Those who disagree , haven't played the game in these settings including you. You might have played in lower settings and that's fine. But you can't comment on graphics based on that. Nobody will believe you pal and you do bluff around. Your posts prove the same.

I said that before already that I haven't plyed this game at max as I don't have that powerful hardware but I have played this game at second highest settings and I found Crysis 1 better (Personal take). And again did I said anyone here to believe I posted what I thought.

And yes About the AI
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See the comments about AI. I guess you can believe gamespot or do you think you are better than them at this.

 

[vickybat]

^^ Its an early review and i think some of the AI issues are fixed. I found no human soldiers staring at me and doing nothing. Maybe with the subsequent patches, these issues have been fixed.

Try doing the same in your system if you want to.

 

[tkin]

Well, let me give my honest opinions about the two games.

Crysis: Great graphics, moderate story, slow gameplay, epic boss fights, good ai(not fear 1 level though), also tremendous flexibility and lastly open world with linear objective path.

Crysis 2: Great graphics, with DX11+HD tex its as good as crysis was. Lightning had improved a lot, too much flare but I loved it. Intense story, good voice acting, epic music(crysis had some great music as well, inon zur I think?), lamest boss fights(pinger? come on, 4 c4s at the back and down it goes), moderate ai, nothing earth shattering, but I had seen worse, also ai glitch has been fixed a lot with latest patch as of now** , linear story and paths(not like cod 4 but still pretty much bound to a particular region), great weapon modding options, pretty balanced weapons(cloak+silenced pistol apart).

** Those who think ai is stupid to run at source of attack is actually forgetting that humans behave that way, if a soldier gets attacked his companions will try to flank you from all sides and may just fall into your trap, so nothing wrong with that, I had been flanked a few times in this game, if you are playing for first time then you are bound to get flanked at least a few times.

For me:

Crysis(incl warhead): 10/10
Crysis 2: 9.6/10

^^ Its an early review and i think some of the AI issues are fixed. I found no human soldiers staring at me and doing nothing. Maybe with the subsequent patches, these issues have been fixed.

Try doing the same in your system if you want to.

^^ I agree.
I am about to fight the second pinger and with patch 1.9 I had not seen a dumb glitched ai so far, it has been fixed, I faced some stuck ai before but not this time.

PS: I think this is the best looking game apart from Crysis so far.

 

[vickybat]

^^ Good analysis. That's exactly the way i think about the game. 1.9 patch has indeed fixed a lot of issues.

 

[gameranand]

Yes I completely agree with tkin although story of Crysis 2 was not that intense for (personal choices). Crysis 2 really is best looking apart from Crysis after DX11 support. AI glitches are patched but still nothing makes them smarter.

 

[Zangetsu]

so by default Crysis 2 is not DX11?

 

[vickybat]

^^ Yes but after installing 1.9 patch and respective packs, it turns into a visual beast.

 

[Zangetsu]

^^what r the required patches files for that?
the performance FPS will not decrease on my card after DX11 patch?

 

[tkin]

^^what r the required patches files for that?
the performance FPS will not decrease on my card after DX11 patch?

It will decrease, by 20-30%, if you go DX11 and HD texture, just DX11 will give 10% drop, hd text gives the rest. But the graphics is worth it.

Yes I completely agree with tkin although story of Crysis 2 was not that intense for (personal choices). Crysis 2 really is best looking apart from Crysis after DX11 support. AI glitches are patched but still nothing makes them smarter.

Nothing can match FEAR in that regard.

 

[Zangetsu]

^^ok...how much is the download(size)?

 

[gameranand]

2.32GB in total

nothing can match fear in that regard.

+1000.