Console OR Rig?
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We are talking about the gear to play games like,, Rage, MGS, NFS , Call-of-Duty etc
An x-box 360 is way better than PC gamin.
Lemme tell you some points to prove myself :
1. It's meant for gaming.
2. The games are specially written for x-box 360's hardware, i.e. the graphics and 3 cores. In PC gaming, you have to buy a new card to reach the best fps and details for every other game.
3. Consoles don't have any bottlenecks.
4. Consoles can be used at home to play multiplayer....i.e. 2, 3 or 4 players at the same time time on the same screen.
5. Even your family members, if a bit of technology savvy, can turn on a console, pop in a disc and start playing. A pc has to be booted and what not!
6. It's got a universal standard hardware. You have the best controlers. In pc, you can't have the best ever. You keyboard can vary from a cheap rs 130 to a razer tarantula! and even if you buy a tarantula, there's no future proofing! your friend might pop in the messenger and tell you about his new fata1ity series keyboard! In consoles, it's a jolly good wireless controller.
7. If your into piracy, then there's no installations hassels, no cracking issues, no serial
keygens, no nothing! It's just your console and the dvd/cd!
8. You can play on a console on a chair, in the bed, on a couch, standing, sitting, flying, hanging on the ceiling like a bat, etc etc etc.... lol
on the PC gaming, you have to be glued to the pc table.
9. you don't need to buy a better smps or a cpu cooler just to juice that extra power hungry graphic card or cool the super roadrunner cores respectively.
10. Consoles have a better resale than a graphic card.
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I know that many of you are ardent PC gamers and enthusiasts. I know you'll point out a 100 things in a pc which are better than a console. But lets face it, a console is a console. A person can never go wrong with it. Now don't ask me what should you do if you desire to play counter strike! lol....
An x-box 360 pro(xbox+ 1wireless controller + 20gb hdd + wired headset + lan cable) is a kick ass package for around 17-18K! Just buy an 22 inch lcd monitor(full HD or the widely available 1680*1050, btw at this screen size, you'll hardly notice the full HD details) for rs. 10,000 - 12000 from a reputed brand like samsung or lg! A 2.1 creative or altec lansing! you're all done and ready to go for high def gaming for just rs 30000! I mean, it's the best thing ever!
Now I respect PC gaming, it has evolved a great deal! but still, finding the right hardware, getting all the resources in your city, being able to get it on reasonable prices...is just to hard! and even if you do, there's no future proofing. In a console, you can at least be future proofed for at least 4-5 years! and you can stick to you old console even after the new ones come out! like PS2 is still selling/running great, after 7-8 years of its release!
PC gaming and Console gaming, both would satisfy the needs of a gamer pretty well. It's just that PC gaming, with the right config, is needed only and only by die hard gamers.....
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P.S. - I currently use an x-box 360 pro with LG 226WTQ monitor. I have the modded version, with 2 years of experience, no RROD so far. Just throw in a rs100 copy of a pirated title and you're good to go. After installing the New Xbox Experience(NXE) I can even install the games to my hard disk(20gb) and run them from it. faster boot times, less heat, no noise, lens longetivity.
regards,
Deepak
Lemme tell you some points to prove myself :
1. It's meant for gaming.
2. The games are specially written for x-box 360's hardware, i.e. the graphics and 3 cores. In PC gaming, you have to buy a new card to reach the best fps and details for every other game.
3. Consoles don't have any bottlenecks.
4. Consoles can be used at home to play multiplayer....i.e. 2, 3 or 4 players at the same time time on the same screen.
5. Even your family members, if a bit of technology savvy, can turn on a console, pop in a disc and start playing. A pc has to be booted and what not!
6. It's got a universal standard hardware. You have the best controlers. In pc, you can't have the best ever. You keyboard can vary from a cheap rs 130 to a razer tarantula! and even if you buy a tarantula, there's no future proofing! your friend might pop in the messenger and tell you about his new fata1ity series keyboard! In consoles, it's a jolly good wireless controller.
7. If your into piracy, then there's no installations hassels, no cracking issues, no serial
keygens, no nothing! It's just your console and the dvd/cd!
8. You can play on a console on a chair, in the bed, on a couch, standing, sitting, flying, hanging on the ceiling like a bat, etc etc etc.... lol
on the PC gaming, you have to be glued to the pc table.
9. you don't need to buy a better smps or a cpu cooler just to juice that extra power hungry graphic card or cool the super roadrunner cores respectively.
10. Consoles have a better resale than a graphic card.
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I know that many of you are ardent PC gamers and enthusiasts. I know you'll point out a 100 things in a pc which are better than a console. But lets face it, a console is a console. A person can never go wrong with it. Now don't ask me what should you do if you desire to play counter strike! lol....
An x-box 360 pro(xbox+ 1wireless controller + 20gb hdd + wired headset + lan cable) is a kick ass package for around 17-18K! Just buy an 22 inch lcd monitor(full HD or the widely available 1680*1050, btw at this screen size, you'll hardly notice the full HD details) for rs. 10,000 - 12000 from a reputed brand like samsung or lg! A 2.1 creative or altec lansing! you're all done and ready to go for high def gaming for just rs 30000! I mean, it's the best thing ever!
Now I respect PC gaming, it has evolved a great deal! but still, finding the right hardware, getting all the resources in your city, being able to get it on reasonable prices...is just to hard! and even if you do, there's no future proofing. In a console, you can at least be future proofed for at least 4-5 years! and you can stick to you old console even after the new ones come out! like PS2 is still selling/running great, after 7-8 years of its release!
PC gaming and Console gaming, both would satisfy the needs of a gamer pretty well. It's just that PC gaming, with the right config, is needed only and only by die hard gamers.....
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P.S. - I currently use an x-box 360 pro with LG 226WTQ monitor. I have the modded version, with 2 years of experience, no RROD so far. Just throw in a rs100 copy of a pirated title and you're good to go. After installing the New Xbox Experience(NXE) I can even install the games to my hard disk(20gb) and run them from it. faster boot times, less heat, no noise, lens longetivity.
regards,
Deepak
damngoodman999
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Guyz my friend bought the pro - Xbox 360 for 17K , one month ago with modded he got the RROD yesterday , he is fee ling lot he just played for 5 hrs continuously with air conditioned with nice ventilation too then also he got the problem
the warranty is not possible cause its modded , any other way to fix the RROD ???
the warranty is not possible cause its modded , any other way to fix the RROD ???
Ethan_Hunt
Aspiring Novelist
Can you justify this statement? RRoD is a hardware failure & modding only involves flashing the firmware of the DVD drive. How can you link both of them?
desiibond
Bond, Desi Bond!
Here's my assumption: A firmware controls everything on the device from CPU to cooling. If the modded firmware is not able to trigger cooling properly, that would result in excessive heat inside the console and hence RRoD.
PS: Just an assumption.
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If I am wrong, please add this to "Dumbest things heard thread"
PS: Just an assumption.
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If I am wrong, please add this to "Dumbest things heard thread"
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Ethan_Hunt
Aspiring Novelist
Never heard of any such thing as the firmware triggering cooling of mechanism of the console. I believe the firmware of the drive is just restricted to reading the information on the DVD & performing the protection checks on it. Also did you know that with the NXE update, you can actually store games on the HDD, load the DVD just once for disc check & then you can play it off the HDD?
RRoD can sometimes be triggered without any cause. It's totally random. So no way in hell will a modded console have a higher risk of RRoD than a non-modded one. Either way if it's not ventilated or cooled properly, it will receive one. But hopefully, Jasper must have reduced this situation. It's better to wait for a month till they hit the stores & then we would have a better option.
Bottom line, if you plan to mod your console, better get the latest batch which has a lower fabrication on it's GPU (a.k.a Jasper unit). Else you'll be stuck with the old batch of core consoles which is like signing a contract of death if you mod it.
RRoD can sometimes be triggered without any cause. It's totally random. So no way in hell will a modded console have a higher risk of RRoD than a non-modded one. Either way if it's not ventilated or cooled properly, it will receive one. But hopefully, Jasper must have reduced this situation. It's better to wait for a month till they hit the stores & then we would have a better option.
Bottom line, if you plan to mod your console, better get the latest batch which has a lower fabrication on it's GPU (a.k.a Jasper unit). Else you'll be stuck with the old batch of core consoles which is like signing a contract of death if you mod it.
desiibond
Bond, Desi Bond!
^^yes. you can load games to HDD and play.
Anyways, how will MS know whether the console is modded or not. They do immediate replacement. Right?
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They will get to know only once they examine the firmware on the chip, which needs some time
Anyways, how will MS know whether the console is modded or not. They do immediate replacement. Right?
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They will get to know only once they examine the firmware on the chip, which needs some time
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Ethan_Hunt
Aspiring Novelist
From what I have heard they just check if the warranty seal is intact or not. Else they don't bother much to check if it's the modded firmware or not. A lot of people who have modded their consoles have had them replaced for RRoD. May be it's just luck but then again it's better to get one with Indian warranty. 
Ethan_Hunt
Aspiring Novelist
Indeed sir. If luck favours then you'll get a replacement. But then again that's the only option at this point as there is no hardware mod.
Pat
Beyond Smart
You unfortunately have to remove it in order to flash your drives, but if someone is skilled enough then the stickers can be removed and put again safely without any trace of opening your console!
Ethan_Hunt
Aspiring Novelist
I have seen videos on Youtube where people use Hair Dryers to slowly peel the sticker off without damaging it. But they say the latest batches stickers are prone to damage even with utmost care. 
desiibond
Bond, Desi Bond!
*video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7653479162258756158
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ah, that's sad. In that case, what about PS3?
PLAYSTATION®3 40GB is avaialble for 20k-22k
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I have seen videos on Youtube where people use Hair Dryers to slowly peel the sticker off without damaging it. But they say the latest batches stickers are prone to damage even with utmost care.
ah, that's sad. In that case, what about PS3?
PLAYSTATION®3 40GB is avaialble for 20k-22k
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Ethan_Hunt
Aspiring Novelist
It's shocking that the PS3 still hasn't received any sort of mod. At this point the Blu-Ray prices are ridiculously high. I'll try to get it possibly by the end of this year or when God of War III comes out.
@Bond: I'm completely out of the hardware scenario. So was wondering if you could help me out on the monitor front. I was thinking of getting a 22 inch screen before I get my 360. The catch is it needs to have a native resolution of 1680x1050. Anything above that & my card would be boned. So what are my options? I saw the Samsung 223SW at my friend's cafe the other day. It looked stunning. Though he was running it at 1680x1050, I later found out the specs & it turned out to be 1920x1080 as it's native resolution. So anything similar to this monitor would be a good idea.
@Bond: I'm completely out of the hardware scenario. So was wondering if you could help me out on the monitor front. I was thinking of getting a 22 inch screen before I get my 360. The catch is it needs to have a native resolution of 1680x1050. Anything above that & my card would be boned. So what are my options? I saw the Samsung 223SW at my friend's cafe the other day. It looked stunning. Though he was running it at 1680x1050, I later found out the specs & it turned out to be 1920x1080 as it's native resolution. So anything similar to this monitor would be a good idea.
desiibond
Bond, Desi Bond!
running LCD at non-native resolutions is like playing Doom on GTX280!!!
Check out *www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/monitor-dell-2209wa?c=in&cs=inbsd1&l=en&s=bsd
Dell 2209WA
1680 X 1050 at 60 Hz
178° / 178° (typical) viewing angle (which is rare)
Video Graphics Array (VGA)
DVI-D (Digital)
4 USB ports
IPS Panel
But this one costs around 18k I think. But has top notch quality and being UltraSharp model, you get Premium Panel Guarantee from Dell.
Another one is.
*www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/monitor_2208wfp?c=in&cs=inbsd1&l=en&s=bsd
Dell UltraSharp 2208WFP:
Another premium panel and costs around 14k I think but this one is TN panel with glossy display.
Check out *www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/monitor-dell-2209wa?c=in&cs=inbsd1&l=en&s=bsd
Dell 2209WA
1680 X 1050 at 60 Hz
178° / 178° (typical) viewing angle (which is rare)
Video Graphics Array (VGA)
DVI-D (Digital)
4 USB ports
IPS Panel
But this one costs around 18k I think. But has top notch quality and being UltraSharp model, you get Premium Panel Guarantee from Dell.
Another one is.
*www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/monitor_2208wfp?c=in&cs=inbsd1&l=en&s=bsd
Dell UltraSharp 2208WFP:
Another premium panel and costs around 14k I think but this one is TN panel with glossy display.
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