Clash Of Two Demons "xfx 280gtx Or Ati Radeon 4870x2"

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ultimategpu

ultimategpu

AMD & ATI FANBOY
Which is the best highEnd GFX card"xfx 280gtx Or Ati Radeon 4870x2"

HELLO DUDES AND GEEKS

iam starting this thread for the upcoming price reduction of graphics cards , soon it ll hit the midrange market in jan 2009 i hope so , it is not because of that many discussion are raising in the forum of really about the hardcore gaming

so lets post ur discussion to help the future buyer s for these graphics cards which one is the best and value for money

i know that its not right now a good value for money , the fast upgrading of gfx card will surely help the buyers


POST UR REVIEWS AND DISCUSSION ON THIS THREAD

- THANK YOU
 
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Jack Carvar

Broken In
+1 for GTX280
*en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3945
*www.guru3d.com/article/evga-geforce-gtx-280-hc16-hydro-copper-review/11
*www.guru3d.com/article/bfg-geforce-gtx-280-ocx-review/9
*www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4870-x2-review-crossfire/12


Even though GTX280 loses out on some points but thats coz HD4870x2 is a dual GPU solution and GTX280 is a single GPU. If you SLi them........HD4870x2 starts peeing in its pants.

Anandtech :-

Ahh Crysis. Our familiar friend. Not the greatest game in the world, but it looks really good and still absolutely kills graphics hardware.

In this case things are a little strange. We see the 4870 X2 and 2x 4870 X2 CrossFire solutions very system limited at below 2560x1600. The NVIDIA SLI options provide a marked performance advantage at 1920x1200
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*www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-v1-21,750.html

Some old NVIDIA bashing ATi charts :D :-
*www.tomshardware.com/charts/dual-quad-vga-charts-q1-2008/Overall-all-Games-fps,528.html
 
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desiibond

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^ When you compare Graphics cards, you compare based on price points.

yes. two GTX 280 will beat one 4870x2 but for the price of two GTX 280's I get HD4870x2 and a 24" FullHD display. And btw, the difference isn't stellar. It's just little bit more.

one to one, HD4870X2 kicks GTX280 to Mars.
 
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Jack Carvar

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But thats coz HD4870x2 is a double GPU solution.......so its no big deal. A single HD4870 dosent stand a chance against the mighty GTX280. Hope NVIDIA launches GTX280x2 or x3 :D
 
desiibond

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
GTX 280 price: 30k
HD4870 price: 16k

So, for the price of GTX280, I get HD4870 + Dell 248WFP. Still HD4870 performance is not more than 5% lower than HD4870 and on higher resolutions with full eye candy on, there isn't much to compare between the two (except the price), with HD4870 beating GTX280 in some games.

So, on any given day HD4870 is much better deal over GTX80.

Oh yes. GTX280 x2 (if released). Priced at what? 50k??


GTX280: EVGA 01G-P3-1280-AR GeForce GTX 280 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready $430

HD4870: SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready $309. Moreover, you get the same card for 260$ if you choose manufactures like Zotac/DiamondViper/Palit

HD4870X2: SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP $549

And if you need the best of the best, go for HD4870X2. It can thrash GTX280 easily



Check the Bioshock benchmark here: *www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd4870x2/6.html

at 1920x1440 resolution:

GTX280: 86fps
HD4870: 84fps
HD4870x2: 158fps


Also check this. *www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd4870x2/8.html

Playing crysis, as you increase the eye candy, the performance drops like anything for GTX280 but for HD4870x2, there isn't much change.

GTX280: 1024x768 aa=0 to 1600x1200 AA=4, framerate drop is :18fps (56 to 38)
HD4870x2: 1024x768 aa=0 to 1600x1200 AA=4, framerate drop is : 2fps (42 to 40)
HD4870: 1024x768 aa=0 to 1600x1200 AA=4, framerate drop is : 26fps (59 to 33)

The same goes with all the games. At FullHD, GTX280 couldn't match the performance of HD4870x2.

Moreover, GTX280 fights with HD4870 at high resolutions and fights with HD4870x2 at lower resolutions. That means that GTX280 suffers a lot with increase in eyecandy.

Now, I do think that HD4870 is the best when it comes to playing at FullHD (when you are on a tight budget). Available for less than 18k in India and for less than 250$ in US, it's one hell of a purchase.
 
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vickyiori

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So, on any given day HD4870 is much better deal over GTX80.
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Definitely.. :p

Anyone buying GTX 280 over HD4870 to play games at full HD is either f***ing too stupid or just has too much money lying around. ;)

And for Crysis..

1. Choosing a card that costs over 10K more for one game doesn't make much sense.

2. If you say that Crysis is a telling to the future of computer graphics..

No. We have no idea if Crysis is truly a sign of the future. The engine is not being adopted on even a moderate scale so a high end card is not a future-proof solution.

3. if you want 1920x1200 with 4xAA you would do well with a card such as the GTX260 or the 4870 (Highly recommended). ;)

4. Here is probably my best advice of all; never trust one site for benchmarks. Benchmarks have way to many variables so you have to collectively group your information. Use at least 4 review sites and analyze the numbers. This way you will be able to average out some of the loose variables that may cause misinformation.

P.S: I'm not an ATI fanboy.. I'm a money/performance fanboy.. :D
 
desiibond

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^ not just crysis.

check Far Cry 2, Bioshock, CoD4, Brothers in Arms and many new games are nearly unplayable at FullHD resolution or even resolution like 1600x1200. Remember, a 22" display now costs 12k and FullHD costs 15k or more which means more and more are going to go for atleast a 19" for 9k (1440x900).

yes. coming to Performance per Watt, clearly HD4xxx series does lot better when it comes to performance and scalability. It doesn't lose much frames as the resolution/AA goes up. Which means they will last longer than their rivals.
 
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acewin

Point Blanc
just adding to desi, what proccy and mobo (with price) would it be which would be running 4870x2 and GTX280 and then thinking of gtx280x2

for 4870x2 or GTX280 (cards which are above 24K) you must be thinking of hard cooled CPU, such cards are not just runnable in normal house environments, and proccies like C2D extreme bro if can spend 1 lakh for just building a gaming rig you would be real professional gamer buying hardware which runs not even a year for your expectation.

And most of us here are in general computing and casual gaming in extreme cases playing for 8-10 hours, and not owning these cards, but just reading reviews and commenting, I do not think its fair shot at these.

In short I say HD4870 is best card .Anything after that is not worth it doing Crossfire or SLI, because if you really think of doing that, first think how would you keep them calm, and get same efficient mobo's which certainly would cost fortune.

Crossfire on on mobo's like P45 will run in 8x not that true potential, then you will turn towards X48.

Most of the testing is done by pros(hardware testers and gamers), who do not buy them but they are given to just test, and people who buy them give them off soon.
The market changes every six month and in between the six month hardwares price keeps on decreasing except when there is a tsunami in stock exchange like now :D
 
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vickyiori

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desiibond said:
^^ not just crysis.

check Far Cry 2, Bioshock, CoD4, Brothers in Arms and many new games are nearly unplayable at FullHD resolution or even resolution like 1600x1200. Remember, a 22" display now costs 12k and FullHD costs 15k or more which means more and more are going to go for atleast a 19" for 9k (1440x900).
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Only if you want to play then at Full HD on Very High settings and with AA.. :)

And Far Cry 2 gives me 40+ FPS on 1600x1200 with high settings. no AA..
With medium settings and AA gives me 60+ FPS..
that's good enough.. :D
 
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desiibond

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^ yep man. Am also Amazed by the smoothness of this game. Very very smooth play even on my HD2600XT.
 
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