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cooldudie3

cooldudie3

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Hd is good for me but should I need Blu Ray? The drives are costly and so are the discs.

Actually, can my motherboard work with Pentium Dual Core? It's quite old and uses some sort of celeron processor. Can the current Celeron work well for me?
 
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acewin

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you really live in heaven, everyone is waiting for there to be drop in prices of Blue ray drives and discs. Then only there will be more HD content avaialable, right now not much HD content is on the market also.

So better stick to normal DVDs as per my suggestiom
 
Psychosocial

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cooldudie3 said:
Hd is good for me but should I need Blu Ray? The drives are costly and so are the discs.

Actually, can my motherboard work with Pentium Dual Core? It's quite old and uses some sort of celeron processor. Can the current Celeron work well for me?
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THats why i suggested a whole new PC upgrade. E1280 + XFX 630 + 2GB RAM. Get a new PSU too.
 
amrawtanshx

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acewin said:
you really live in heaven, everyone is waiting for there to be drop in prices of Blue ray drives and discs. Then only there will be more HD content avaialable, right now not much HD content is on the market also.

So better stick to normal DVDs as per my suggestiom
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Hey HD is flowing now.
Forget Hollywood even 3 Bollywood have been released as Bluray.
Plus lots of videos are HD now including movie trailers.

So we better be prepared.:D
 
IronManForever

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goobimama said:
Do you even know how HD videos are decoded? CoreAVC and FFDshow (and VLC if you want to count that in) all do not support GPU decoding. The only one that does, is the Cyberlink PowerDVD decoder via DxVGA. But let me tell you, the 7900GT in the system did nothing much even using the Cyberlink codec. CoreAVC and FFDshow performed far better.

As for Nvidia PureVideo, that's a PureJoke. Mpeg2 decoding is again far better using FFDshow, with much better control over the output.

So during HD playback, GPU was NOT used AT ALL. The guys at CoreCodec promised GPU decoding in upcoming versions, but that never happened. Now they claim that the CPUs are fast enough so GPU decoding is not required. Note, that it takes just a Intel Core Duo 1.8Ghz+ to decode 720p and a Core 2 Duo 2Ghz+ to decode 1080p comfortably.

Maybe in future Windows7 will bring about GPGPU (gx keeps mentioning that) which will enhance the experience out of the box, but for now, GPU is only used for Aero effects and Gaming.
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Oh gosh!! Man you seriously have to get your facts right. All current gen GPUs do most of the decoding; all have hardware decoders in them. CoreAVC and FFDShow are for those systems without such GPUs or any standalone hardware decoder.
When CPU decodes; a software decoder is on the work; when GPU decodes, its a hardware decoder built in. And you may also be able to buy add-on PCI decoders for less powerful rigs.

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@goobimama

I know that CoreAVC and FFDshow do not support GPU decoding.
GPU is useful in HD decoding if the CPU is not that powerful.

Just want to quote nVidia on 7300 series.
GeForce 7300 GPUs also bring stunning, high definition video and superb picture clarity with minimal CPU usage with NVIDIA® PureVideo™ technology. For the performance and features you need to play the latest games and enjoy home-theater quality video, make sure your PC is equipped with a GeForce 7300 GPU.

At 3GHz, Intel's Core 2 Duo E6850 is powerful enough to decode an HD DVD or HD 1080i signal without assistance from the video card, but a low-speed CPU combined with an underpowered video card may not be capable of the same feat.
Source :*arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...vs-nvidia.html
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Exactly what I wanted to say. But the C2D E6850 thing that you are talking about; its without CoreAVC or FFDShow or anything similar, I guess?
 
comp@ddict

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goobimama said:
Think so. Pretty sure that 845 motherboard will not be coupled with a good enough CPU. On the other hand, plug in a 9800GTX-Extreme into a 2Ghz Pentium based machine and let's see if those HD videos play.
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You won't even get a tenth of the GPU's power due to this old rusty's bottleneck!



By the way, it's up to you.

8400GS(get 256MB DDR3) @ 1.8k
8500GT @ 2.4k
3450 @ 2.2k
8600GT @ 3.1k

The performance is ascending wise. Now you choose which one you want. If you have an OLD CELERON, then go for a 945+E2160 @ 5k + gfx card of ur choice.

If you are familiar with OCing, you'll get decent performance with gaming too, coupled with a 8600GT card.
 
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goobimama

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Oh gosh!! Man you seriously have to get your facts right. All current gen GPUs do most of the decoding; all have hardware decoders in them. CoreAVC and FFDShow are for those systems without such GPUs or any standalone hardware decoder.
When CPU decodes; a software decoder is on the work; when GPU decodes, its a hardware decoder built in. And you may also be able to buy add-on PCI decoders for less powerful rigs.
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Oh I know they have hardware decoders in them. And I was pretty excited about that when I got my 7900GT with the Purevideo and all that. But only when it comes to Bluray or raw Mpeg2/h264 files. And, CoreAVC is known to give better performance than a hardware decoder.

If you are talking about playing Blurays or WMV, then by all means the GPU will play a role (although, you will again need a powerful enough CPU for that as well). But if MKV is your kind of thing, then there is no way the GPU plays a big part.
 
IronManForever

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goobimama said:
Oh I know they have hardware decoders in them. And I was pretty excited about that when I got my 7900GT with the Purevideo and all that. But only when it comes to Bluray or raw Mpeg2/h264 files. And, CoreAVC is known to give better performance than a hardware decoder.

If you are talking about playing Blurays or WMV, then by all means the GPU will play a role (although, you will again need a powerful enough CPU for that as well). But if MKV is your kind of thing, then there is no way the GPU plays a big part.
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All GPUs that have hardware decoding; when they are reviewed for big websites like Tom's Hardware, etc; the slowest Celeron Processor commercially available is used. Why? To check how efficient the decoder is. I had come across reviews where 8800GT was used to check how efficient it is while decoding h.264 media. The proccy used was some 2.53 GHz Celeron D.
But all depends on what kinda file/compression you use. Like you said about MKV.
GPUs dont come with all kinda decoders but generally todays GPUs will give you good performance with MPEG-2 video and MPEG-4 video.

ADDED: And you said that CoreAVC is more effective than GPU decoding? You mean to say less CPU stress was seen with CoreAVC than GPU decoding?
Sure, If the compression wasnt decodable by GPU because it simply didnt supprt it; you maybe right. But try it with Blue-ray; I bet the results will be hell lotta different. :D
 
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cooldudie3

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KPower Mania said:
THats why i suggested a whole new PC upgrade. E1280 + XFX 630 + 2GB RAM. Get a new PSU too.
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OK, so the CPU upgrade to E1280 +Motherboard XFX 630 + 2GB RAM. Ok, thanks for the suggestion!
Can you post me a link to the motherboard website, I can't seem to find it.
 
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Psychosocial

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^Right , get a new cabby , Zebronics Bijli Cabinet for 1k which comes with an inbuilt PSU of 400W which will suffice you. :)

EDIT - Plus the cabby is good too.
 
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