CheapCPU & CostlyGPU VS CostlyCPU & CheapGPU

ajai5777

ajai5777

Youngling
emmarbee said:
As of now my friend has settled down with the following
X4 630 + BIOSTAR TA790GXBE + 2 GB DDR2 800 + SG 500

I have asked him to wait and buy the video card later. Is there any possibility (in the near future) to buy a video card (including SMPS) for around 10K and play Crysis Or Warhead at full resolution? If so, how many more months will it take?

Sorry, if i'm bothering you guys with too many questions. The thing is, even several hours & days & weeks & months of browsing at anandtech, tomshardware, guru3d, overclockersclub, google can't clear all my doubts and help me come to a conclusion.
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Thats a mistake.Its a DDR2 board.Go for TA785G3 HD for the same price and 2GB DDR3 1333 ram.

There is a cheaper solution to play games in fluid frame rates.Get a HD 5670 or greater card + PSU then play all games in 1600 X 900.The monitor will upscale it to 1920 X 1080.Quality wont be bad and will get fluid frame rates.

This is a realistic solution because, for full HD you will need atleast a 15k+ GPU + PSU.
 
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emmarbee

Journeyman
It is a micro atx board. Please suggest me a ultra cheap DDR3 ATX board. No features like hdmi, optical out etc are required. Even the main chipset and the audio chipset need not be of high quality :)
 
coderunknown

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Biostar got 1. something like TA790GXB or so. it got 1 PCIeX16 slot so no Crossfire. price is exactly same as the 785G based solution. please check in lynx or Biostar's website for correct name & details.
 
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emmarbee

Journeyman
Sam, The model is TA790GXB3. It looks great. ATX+ALC662+DDR3. No need of crossfire for me.
But this model isn't available. Only the TA790GX A3+ model with 140w cpu support, Crossfire, HDMI support is only available and it cost around 5500.

And, should I definitely go for X4 630? Even the X2 240 and X3 440 looks good. Don't have much of a difference of FPS in games. So it wont bottleneck the GPU I guess ...
Again, Why not X2 240 + 5770 or X3440 + 5770? I can save upto 2000 Rs. Which I can spend it on the video card Or I can ask him to buy a good cabinet like zebronicspro blackjack.
 
coderunknown

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
emmarbee said:
Sam, The model is TA790GXB3. It looks great. ATX+ALC662+DDR3. No need of crossfire for me.
But this model isn't available. Only the TA790GX A3+ model with 140w cpu support, Crossfire, HDMI support is only available and it cost around 5500.
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oh yes. actually i posted from mobile so unable post whole name (not remember actually).

emmarbee said:
And, should I definitely go for X4 630? Even the X2 240 and X3 440 looks good. Don't have much of a difference of FPS in games. So it wont bottleneck the GPU I guess ...
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for gaming, X3 usually beats X4. reason is simple. games utilize 2 cores. 3 cores means extra hand. add to it:

3 cores: less cost. high speed.
4 cores: comparable high cost. low speed.

emmarbee said:
also with 3 cores, you can try unlock 4th core without any loss. if it unlock, good. don't unlock, still in game it'll rock.

Again, Why not X2 240 + 5770 or X3440 + 5770? I can save upto 2000 Rs. Which I can spend it on the video card Or I can ask him to buy a good cabinet like zebronicspro blackjack.
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my preference: X3 + HD5770 (a good 1).

for cabby, get a big one. i mean a good hight. Cooler Master USP 100 a good option when dealing with ATX mobo & Mid ATX cabby. price 3.2k
 
giprabu

giprabu

In the zone
Sam.Shab said:
oh yes. actually i posted from mobile so unable post whole name (not remember actually).



for gaming, X3 usually beats X4. reason is simple. games utilize 2 cores. 3 cores means extra hand. add to it:

3 cores: less cost. high speed.
4 cores: comparable high cost. low speed.



my preference: X3 + HD5770 (a good 1).

for cabby, get a big one. i mean a good hight. Cooler Master USP 100 a good option when dealing with ATX mobo & Mid ATX cabby. price 3.2k
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Sam.., do you mean that X3 + HD 5770 will be able to handle Crysis @ full hd ?
 
coderunknown

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
giprabu said:
Sam.., do you mean that X3 + HD 5770 will be able to handle Crysis @ full hd ?
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yes of course, it'll be. even X2 + HD5750 will just details will have to be lowered a lot. but X3 + HD5770 best combo. to it either add more cores. or make card a little faster or add more ram to enhance the quality.
 
asingh

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
giprabu said:
Sam.., do you mean that X3 + HD 5770 will be able to handle Crysis @ full hd ?
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No it will not be able to. I have 2 x HD4890, with a Q9550 (3.5 Ghz), and I get an average of 46 FPS.

Being able to handle = minimal 60 fps. No ways can a singular HD5770 + X3 do that at HD resolution. So be careful before you jump the gun. Using your configuration you will get decent game-play, but at times (cars blowing up, lots of smoke, boss levels, multiple AI), the system will punch out low FPS. Try to understand what Crysis / Warhead are. The engine does not use any pre-fabricated textures, everything is created at run time, which takes resources. And with Dx10, forget it.
 
ajai5777

ajai5777

Youngling
We can hear about CRYSIS in any hardware forum.Actually I havnt played it.
Hows that game? Any worth for the juice it sucks.?

I dont like First Person Games.Thats why I skipped COD,Crysis,Half life etc..
I prefer Rear person games,Sports,Racing..etc
 
coderunknown

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
ajai5777 said:
We can hear about CRYSIS in any hardware forum.Actually I havnt played it.
Hows that game? Any worth for the juice it sucks.?

I dont like First Person Games.Thats why I skipped COD,Crysis,Half life etc..
I prefer Rear person games,Sports,Racing..etc
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its not rear person. its third person :smile: me prefer first person, adventure (3rd person) & strategy (age of empires mainly) & racing. strictly no to sports & 3rd person shooters like Max Payne (can't even make it to subway station).
 
ajai5777

ajai5777

Youngling
Sam.Shab said:
its not rear person. its third person :smile: me prefer first person, adventure (3rd person) & strategy (age of empires mainly) & racing. strictly no to sports & 3rd person shooters like Max Payne (can't even make it to subway station).
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Oops RPG is Role playing game.I somehow thought it was Rear Person Game :duh2:

I like 3rd person very much and hate FPS and Strategy to the core.
Hitman,GTA,POP,Max payne,Splinter cell,Matrix, AC, Prototype etc etc...

Sports : EA cricket (discontinued),FIFA,PES etc..

Race : NFS series
 
coderunknown

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
ajai5777 said:
Oops RPG is Role playing game.I somehow thought it was Rear Person Game :duh2:
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oh, i thought its 3rd person shooter. RPG like Mass Effect & Diablo?

ajai5777 said:
I like 3rd person very much and hate FPS and Strategy to the core.
Hitman,GTA,POP,Max payne,Splinter cell,Matrix, AC, Prototype etc etc...

Sports : EA cricket (discontinued),FIFA,PES etc..

Race : NFS series
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isn't splinter cell FPS?
 
asingh

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Guys for the record, sad to see, there is so much discrepancy regarding this on a forum like TDF.

Crysis / Warhead are First person shooters (FPS). A FPS is when only the hands/weapon of the player are visible -- as per the camera angle. A Third person shooter (TPS) is when the whole playing character is visible, more like a over the shoulder over view. For obvious reasons FPS are the most system taxing cause the camera angle changes / is so dynamic. A slight mouse touch (for FPS), means that the whole frame has to be re-rendered.

Ajai5777:
If you are a gamer, and you have not played the Crytek series, then you are missing a lot. It has, to name a few:

1. Real time of day.
2. Occlusion mapping.
3. Modifiable weapons.
4. Destructible vegetation.
5. Advanced AI.

See these screen shots:
*img193.imageshack.us/img193/2650/crysis2009101000150223.jpg
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*img405.imageshack.us/img405/6038/crysis2009101000150925.jpg
*img40.imageshack.us/img40/8673/crysis2009101000013540z.jpg
*img242.imageshack.us/img242/6849/crysis2009101000390167.jpg
*img176.imageshack.us/img176/2212/crysis2009101000340531.jpg
*img202.imageshack.us/img202/3547/crysis2009101000201521.jpg
*img195.imageshack.us/img195/5193/crysis2009101000192345.jpg
*img525.imageshack.us/img525/5503/crysis2009101000163081.jpg
*img117.imageshack.us/img117/3547/crysis2009101000201521.jpg

See the level of detail. Till date no game offers this, apart from Metro 2033, no wonder most review sites still use this franchisee as a benchmark..!
 
ajai5777

ajai5777

Youngling
I have heard that Crysis and COD is good.But I have to change my mind about FPS games.I'll give it a try when I get time.
 
coderunknown

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
@asigh, what happened to that patriot in the first screenshot? is he a patriot or a parrot? he looks to be frozen in time :grin:
 
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