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raja manuel

In the zone
izzikio_rage said:
Wanted to buy a battery for my NEX6. Needed suggestions on whether to buy an orignal sony battery (5.3k on Amazon) or one of the many other brands (available for as low as 1.3k)

Please advise
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I don't know anyone who has used a 3rd party battery on a Sony camera, but if the experience of Canon DSLR shooters is any guide, I would say be prepared for surprises. While some users report no issues, other users report a whole host of camera issues that disappear once an original battery is used. Perhaps this is due to poor quality control in 3rd party batteries.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
go for original...in camera reliability is the concern...if on a tour ur third party stop working then you will curse urself
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
problem is 5k may look costly now, but if you plan a tour to some place you will see this cost is marginal with respect to the tour cost . Thats the reason I bought another spare memory card for my trip to andaman, and inserted right into my dslr which have dual memory card slot. I felt soo safe :)
 
izzikio_rage

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
He he... Absolutely agreed. All costs are relative. Like my not being able to capture the kite festival in jaipur due to battery issues is what started all this
 
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raja manuel

In the zone
Some interesting statistics on the 2016 Japanese camera market from BCN. This is one of the few reports that considers actual sales rather than shipments to dealers. It is for just one country but Japan is a very important market for cameras.

DSLR Camera Markshare 2016 (Japan)
Canon 63.3% (56.2% in 2015)
Nikon 31.6%
Ricoh 4.8%

Lens Marketshare 2016 (Japan)
Canon 24% (24.1% in 2015)
Sigma 14.3%
Nikon 12.5%

Fixed Lens Camera Marketshare 2016 (Japan)
Canon 27.3% (30.5% in 2015)
Nikon 22.1%
Casio 19.3%

Amd the most interesting one:
Mirrorless Camera Markshare 2016 (Japan)
Olympus 26.8
Canon 18.5% (13.6% in 2015)
Sony 17.9%

Canon's marketshare in mirrorless improved by 5% and beat Sony! How did that happen? I doubt if it is due to the M5, that hasn't been on sale long enough.
 
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raja manuel

In the zone
Are you saying Nikon isn't a big gun? :D
But yeah, Nikon has been showing a steady decline over the years. I'm a bit surprised at Olympus having such a lead over Sony. I know that their OM-D series is famous, but they're nowhere near Sony's size.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Had an opportunity try my hands on D800 with AF D 50 f/1.8. Didn't have enough time to dig deep, so just took few snaps. I was little happy that it's a D lens, thought I could use aperture ring. But any faster than f/4.5 shows "F E E", thought that's an error, and end up using camera dial to change aperture. Took about 8 photographs. He had two others lenses too, my bad I couldn't try them.

D lens focusing is noisy , it keeps hunting. Pretty much all the photographs focus is not where I wanted it to be.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
raja manuel said:
Did you try with a single active autofocus point? Was it actually missing focus or just front/back focusing?
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Single active AF means, just one AF point, right? No it wasn't single AF. It could be missing focus, but more than that I think it's my ability to use the gear effectively.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
[MENTION=125321]nac[/MENTION] ...I really dont remember if you can change aperture on the lens of a D lens once attached on new dslrs . My manual lens's aperture can be moved easily.
Also D lens are noisy coz its motor driven..it rotates actually :D

frankly speaking I am sure its not lens fault Nac..Nikon 50mm1.8D is the most famous lens of Nikon and you will find millions of pics taken by that. Its not that bad :p
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
sujoyp said:
@nac ...I really dont remember if you can change aperture on the lens of a D lens once attached on new dslrs . My manual lens's aperture can be moved easily.
Also D lens are noisy coz its motor driven..it rotates actually :D

frankly speaking I am sure its not lens fault Nac..Nikon 50mm1.8D is the most famous lens of Nikon and you will find millions of pics taken by that. Its not that bad :p
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I didn't mean "bad". I was in an assumption that I could use the aperture ring on the D lens. Up to my knowledge (theoretical), I should be able to use aperture ring, just that I didn't know how. Now I have read, I hope to use it right next time.
AF noise and AF hunting is little irritating

G lens too have motor right? It's also motor driven? Probably, little more sophisticated motor?

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Have been thinking of getting into this business for quite sometime, coz of too much hesitation in approaching studios I am still thinking...

Met a wedding photographer and had a chat with him. Since his profit margin is very thin, he says he can't afford to hire a photographer (freelancer) esp. someone like me, a newbie.

Get to know how much work involved from setting up a shop, finding clients to delivering the product. Didn't know they retouch photos like fashion/beauty photographers. Is that necessary for normal wedding photos? He said he takes about 1000 photographs. He's not going to deliver all the 1000, still. Even if he picks 300 photos, it will take weeks to retouch all of 'em. Since I am just thinking of working when I am free on the weekends for a studio, I don't need to bother about all these. But still, taking that first step seems like a huge one.
 
Faun

Faun

Wahahaha~!
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nac said:
Have been thinking of getting into this business for quite sometime, coz of too much hesitation in approaching studios I am still thinking...

Met a wedding photographer and had a chat with him. Since his profit margin is very thin, he says he can't afford to hire a photographer (freelancer) esp. someone like me, a newbie.

Get to know how much work involved from setting up a shop, finding clients to delivering the product. Didn't know they retouch photos like fashion/beauty photographers. Is that necessary for normal wedding photos? He said he takes about 1000 photographs. He's not going to deliver all the 1000, still. Even if he picks 300 photos, it will take weeks to retouch all of 'em. Since I am just thinking of working when I am free on the weekends for a studio, I don't need to bother about all these. But still, taking that first step seems like a huge one.
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Retouching is important. Most of the times I am not satisfied with the RAW image file. A little rough around the edges, and a little bit of retouch does the wonder.

May be start with solo portraits first and when you are satisfied with your expectations then go for larger stuff.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
[MENTION=125321]nac[/MENTION] not all lenses with G are motor driven...its the AF-D with a G at the end which are motor driven. G lenses do not have manual aperture ring, thats it.

if you start your business, start with some paper templates distributed.
Take photograph of
-birthday
-those pics used in marriage, the solo ones .
-fashion shots
-mundan ceremony
-godhbharai -
-baby pics.
-prewedding
These are much simpler. Marriage photography is much difficult and expectations are too high.

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Retouching has to be done compulsorily, no options.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Faun said:
Retouching is important. Most of the times I am not satisfied with the RAW image file. A little rough around the edges, and a little bit of retouch does the wonder.
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sujoyp said:
Retouching has to be done compulsorily, no options.
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Post processing is must, I take it. But what I heard was more like fashion/beauty/glamour retouching. May not be as extensive as fashion photography, but still I feel that's too much (way too much) for a wedding photography.
Faun said:
May be start with solo portraits first and when you are satisfied with your expectations then go for larger stuff.
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sujoyp said:
if you start your business, start with some paper templates distributed.
Take photograph of...
These are much simpler. Marriage photography is much difficult and expectations are too high.
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I don't think I can pull this whole photography business on my own. My idea is to work for studios on the weekends.
Nice ideas guys, I pull up some photos from the archives and make an album/profile to show the studios my work.
 
CRACING

CRACING

Journeyman
nac said:
AF noise and AF hunting is little irritating

G lens too have motor right? It's also motor driven? Probably, little more sophisticated motor?
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In Nikon, neither AF-D nor AF-D G has the focusing motor built into the lenses instead there is a screwdriver thing that pokes out of the camera mount and couples with the slotted rotating coupling on the lens mount and it rotates to move the element(s) in and out for focusing. (Click here and here for details.) However, only semi-pro and pro DSLRs have built-in motor. Budget DSLRs don't have built-in motor instead they control focusing motor electronically that is present AF-S type lenses.

Theoretically, mechanical AF drive isn't fast as AF-I, AF-S or the new AF-P lenses and also its noisy but AF lenses cheaper then the latter.

If you have semi-pro or pro DSLR, you can also use AF-S lenses to get fast and silent focusing. 50mm f/1.8 is also available in AF-S but costs nearly double. :)
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
sujoyp said:
@nac not all lenses with G are motor driven...its the AF-D with a G at the end which are motor driven. G lenses do not have manual aperture ring, thats it.
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Oh! Sorry for the confusion. I meant focus motor in AF-S lens.
G lens too have motor right? It's also motor driven? Probably, little more sophisticated motor?
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The noise were from focusing right? Not coz of aperture opening/closing?
 
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