Buying An Assembled Desktop

[Soumyajit]

how much would the UPS cost?

azad suggested me a viewsonic 17" TFT. anyone any other suggestions? how much would that cost me?

regards

 

[azad]

APC 500VA - 2400 Rs
APC 650VA - 3200 Rs
APC 800VA - 5500 Rs
All these prices are mumbai prices


abt the monitors, u cld go in for a 19" wide benq FP92W . it costs arnd 11600 in mumbai

ViewSonic LCD 17 '' VA712 8900 Rs
ViewSonic LCD 17'' VA1703 10050 Rs
ViewSonic LCD 19" VG1930VM 12700 Rs
ViewSonic LCD 19" VG1912W 11700 Rs


however if u r going infor 19", i suggest u take the benq...its gr8 vfm...

 

[Soumyajit]

is win xp available in the market after the launch of vista? how much would it cost me? would i get the CD? or would it be just loaded and given to me??

 

[praka123]

@soumyagit:I am from Cochin area.You can find wholesale dealers:
they are Noveon Systems near Atlantis-MG rd nr Shipyard,International Marketing Company nr Ravipuram,Online Computers-South over bridge,Radha Electronics etc.for your case u should try Noveon Systems.
WinXP is available and Linux too is used by many.

Most of the wholesalers may not have ex-stock as the year ending was just over(March 31)

 

[Soumyajit]

hi all

went computer shopping today. visited two shops and this is the price i was quoted (including 4% VAT) :

NOVEON SYSTEMS
Intel E6300 processor : Rs 9048
Intel DG 965 WH mobo : Rs 6760
2 x 512 MB DDR2 RAM : Rs 3640
Samsung Puma Hard Disc 250 GB : Rs 3328
Sony DVD Writer : Rs 1742
Mercury Cabinet with 400W PSU : Rs 1118
17" LCD Monitor Samsung/Acer : Rs 9828/Rs 8788
APC 500VA UPS : 2132

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Intel E6300 processor : Rs 8950
Intel DG 965 WH mobo : Rs 5500
2 x 512 MB DDR2 RAM Corsair : Rs 4100
Seagate Barracuda Hard Disc 250 GB : Rs 3650
Sony DVD Writer : Rs 1800
Mercury Cabinet with 400W PSU : Rs 1450
17" LCD Monitor ViewSonic : Rs 9200
APC 500VA UPS : 2100
KB / Mouse : Rs 750

Now, going by this kind of prices I am exceeding my budget by too much. And I also got to buy an OS (Win XP - Rs 3600)

So, guys I think I will have to reconfigure for a lower configuration. What about taking a Intel E4300 Core 2 Duo Processor? Which one would be a compatible motherboard? preferably with onboard graphics??
Should I go for Mercury cabinets? Seems Zebronics is not available..

Waiting for further advice..

Soumyajit

 

[ruturaj3]

Suggest me an AMD based PC. Only the processor ,mobo.
Mobo should have onboard graphics. Also support for DX10 cards.

I have heard that AMD/ATI is designing chipset with onboard 7000 series Graphics.

 

[ankushkool]

Now, going by this kind of prices I am exceeding my budget by too much. And I also got to buy an OS (Win XP - Rs 3600)

So, guys I think I will have to reconfigure for a lower configuration. What about taking a Intel E4300 Core 2 Duo Processor? Which one would be a compatible motherboard? preferably with onboard graphics??
Should I go for Mercury cabinets? Seems Zebronics is not available..

as 4 de OS u will be a fool if u buy it 4 '3600'... u can get it 4 free
if ur budget is under 30k, dont buy LCD monitor go 4 crt 15 inch
n i will say go4 AMD athlon 3800+ & MSI K9 mobo (tried n tested)
or cheaper AMD 3200+ MSI K8 (9000)

dont spend much on de cabnit get intex cabinet 4 around 1200

if u r not a power user 80 -120 GB segate harddisk is enough (7200 rpm)

if u can... go 4 a nvidia 6600 GS graphis card
ram at least 1GB (preferabbly DDR2, sud be compatible witl mobo)
logitech keyboard mouse
creative/ altech speakers
and a liton DVD Writer

 

[Soumyajit]

as 4 de OS u will be a fool if u buy it 4 '3600'... u can get it 4 free

Is it true that Win XP would be given free by the assembler?? I am not asking for a pirated version. Want to load original OS.

n i will say go4 AMD athlon 3800+ & MSI K9 mobo (tried n tested)
or cheaper AMD 3200+ MSI K8 (9000)

i dont want to go for AMD. I want to take Intel Dual Core

dont spend much on de cabnit get intex cabinet 4 around 1200

Ya, i wish to reduce the cost in that...

if u r not a power user 80 -120 GB segate harddisk is enough (7200 rpm)

and, maybe i will go for 160GB hard disc (cost diff 1000 i think)

anyone any suggestions?

do you think i am being quoted the correct prices?

regards
Soumyajit

 

[Pathik]

@ankushkool... Dont encourage piracy... he s making a good decision if he wants to get the original OS.. thats not foolish..
@soumyajit
Get a athlon x2 3800+ and a asus m2n pv vm...
or if u want intel than get a pentium d 820 + a d102ggc2
but the amd config is way better than intel...
btw get a VIP cabinet... they come cheap..
if u can increase ur budget than get a c2d config...
and get 160gb the price diff is abt 700 only..

 

[ankushkool]

@ankushkool... Dont encourage piracy... he s making a good decision if he wants to get the original OS.. thats not foolish..

oops u got me wrong ... i ment was that he sud go 4 free OS likr linux, which i m using n not spend so much on XP

 

[Soumyajit]

oops u got me wrong ... i ment was that he sud go 4 free OS likr linux, which i m using n not spend so much on XP

i dont think Linux would be a good choice for me.. coz, 1. i have never used it, 2. i would be shuttling between my office PC and home PC, and office PC has win xp installed.

thinking of reducing the hard disc size and going for a 17" CRT maybe.

 

[praka123]

Linux is too good

Linux is much better than what it was before 2-3 yrs ago.U can try a free Live cd of Ubuntu ..> *shipit.ubuntu.com
Not something like rocket science any more reg linux.
also do visit why linux @ *whylinuxisbetter.net

regarding Cochin shops it seems noveon is asking higher prices as u can see with processor.search a little more for shops near south over bridge etc.It seems a local assembler will get a much better price than u directly contact the wholesalers(noveon etc).there are shops though smaller which can give u good prices check it for urself.
Also there is team frontline:
*www.teamfrontline.com/orchid.htm#
*www.teamfrontline.com/products.htm

 

[Soumyajit]

hi praka

thanks for your continued efforts at finding me a good config. but one thing i realized is, many of the shops arent well informed about the products. for eg. they werent aware of E6300 processor. and one guy told me that the processor he was offering would give me 2GB of L2 cache !!

will visit some more shops, as you have suggested..

as regards Linux, can i work on the same file in both Linux and Windows? I mean if there's a MS Word document or MS Powerpoint presentation, can I modify them in Linux?

regards

 

[sakumar79]

@Soumyajit, I seriously recommend that you rethink your no-AMD idea because for the kind of budget that you propose to have, you will get a much better performance system from AMD. If you have a high budget, Intel processor will no doubt give a great performance, but for a low/medium budget, AMD processor will give better bang for the buck.. Suggest you go for AMD X2 3600+ or 3800+ with ASUS motherboard... If you keep rest of config same, your total price will come down by about 4 or 5 k I think...

Arun

 

[praka123]

hi praka
as regards Linux, can i work on the same file in both Linux and Windows? I mean if there's a MS Word document or MS Powerpoint presentation, can I modify them in Linux?
regards

Yes.you can work.Open office.org Writer is for MS Word and Open Office Impress does with Powerpoint.OpenOffice writer can export a file directly to pdf!.also are many alternative office members(editors,presentation,calculation invoice etc) available in Linux.You can access and write ur ntfs,fat partitions from Linux,can play dvds(css ones too),wma,wmvs streaming,flash,pdfs almost all and more.I'll Suggest you get urself Ubuntu Feisty Linux.But you needs to learn a little of Command line;not very tough though.

best of Luck for ur H/W shopping too.

 

[mehulved]

Shouldn't just a CRT monitor and 160 GB hard disk suffice, I think that will get him the config within his budget. Hard disk can also be upgraded easily later on.

As for linux, it can do many tasks which windows can. What would be your intended use of the PC. You can always try linux. If you don't like it, remove it you won't loose anything. It will also give you a few days to collect some money for windows. And you can also have windows and linux installed in your PC, and boot them alternatingly if you like.

 

[Soumyajit]

Hi
I went to Zenicon Computers in Cochin today. This is the price quote I got (inclusive of 4% VAT)

Intel E6300 Processor : 8944
Intel D965RY motherboard : 6552
512 MB DDR2 Transcend RAM (533) : 2964
512 MB DDR2 Zion (667) : 1924
160 GB SATA2 Samsung Hard Disc : 2425
Sony DVD RW (OEM) : 1654
17" LCD Monitor Viewsonic : 8632
Mercury Cabinet KM81 with 400 PSU : 1128
Keyboard Mouse Logitech : 624
Assembling cost :500

Now, this shop is saying that if there's any problem with any of the parts, to get the comp to them. Unlike, other shops, where they are saying that i would have to contact the respective service centres for different products.

Just trying to workout which combination to go for...

Regards
Som

i have few questions :

1. How is Zion RAM? This is most popular here. some shops dont stock other RAMs like Corsair, Kingston, etc.

2. Should i go for Samsung hard disc? (in place of Seagate hard disc). i plan to go for 160 GB hard disc.

3. i will check the prices of the AMD X2 3800+ processor and its corresponding motherboards. Now, which all motherboards will be suitable for this processor?

regards
Soumyajit

 

[praka123]

go for intel processors.with zenicon(i brought my current pc 4m there only),make sure they dont bill it to u as a branded computer as they do mostly with 1 yr gurantee.so ask for individual parts and whether u can carry on them to get a replacement;above all be sure on the part of billing(isnt zenicon and noveon the same;dont go for the zenicons marine drive penta menaka mall office,there they will be selling mostly branded computers as they got zenicon as a brand itself.DO ask them that u want an assembled computer (in BIll also).and remember these ppl will be just marketeers doing their business and in Kerala PC peripheral business in Kerala state is controlled by a mafia(!) with most members from Cochin City and the monopoly wholesaler controlling the market is Aldous glare exports.this is just for ur infi.Best of Luck for ur shopping.

 

[ankushkool]

as 4 de ram i say go 4 zion as lately trascend ram is havin some problems i had 2 replace it.
at u budget it is strongly rocomended u go 4 AMD
and i find MSI K9 mobo good 4 AMD as it has some nice onbord graphics.

 

[Soumyajit]

going for AMD X2 3800+ just for the cost factor. so which motherboard do i go for? Asus M2N or MSI K9? pls suggest...

praka
pls explain about the billing issue... didnt understand.

so going for zion RAM and samsung hard disc as corsair and seagate not available at zenicon (yes, opp cochin shipyard, beside noveon)

hope to buy comp today... so waiting for amswer to my q: which mobo? hope the mobo u suggest has onboard graphics
thanks n regards