Biostar TP35D2-A7 + Intel E2160 overclocking

[axxo]

so its normal..thanks.
actually net statistics shows most E2160 reach 3+ without any increase in core voltage.

Cud be that mobo has vdroop issue.so vcore offer to be high

any possible way that i can solve this issue...or not resolvable due to mobo limitation or something

 

[darklord]

you cant do anything to vdroop.
You need to either do a hardware mod to remove the vdroop or it can be fixed by BIOS update

 

[darklord]

Alright folks,
Not exactly overclocking results as such, more of memory performance analysis.hope you guys find it useful

Test Setup -
Intel C2D E8500 (Stock Cooler)
Biostar P35 Board
Team Xtreem PC2 6400 CL4 2GB (2.4V VDIMM)
Corsair VX450W PSU

400 x 8 / 400 4-3-3-10 TRFC = 42

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400 x 8 / 400 4-3-3-10 TRFC = 36

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TRFC 42 Vs. TRFC 36 - Memory Read = + 41 MB/s Memory Write = -1 MB/s Memory Copy = +20 MB/s Memory Latency = - 0.2ns
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[darklord]

400 x 8 / 400 4-3-3-10 TRFC = 30

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TRFC 42 Vs. TRFC 30 - Memory Read = + 75 MB/s Memory Write = -1 MB/s Memory Copy = +30 MB/s Memory Latency = - 0.4ns

TRFC 36 Vs. TRFC 30 - Memory Read = + 34 MB/s Memory Write = +0 MB/s Memory Copy = +10 MB/s Memory Latency = - 0.2ns

400 x 8 / 400 4-3-3-8 TRFC = 30

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(TRFC 30) TRAS 10 Vs. TRAS 8 - Memory Read = + 17 MB/s Memory Write = -1 MB/s Memory Copy = +29 MB/s Memory Latency = + 0ns
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[darklord]

400 x 8 / 400 4-3-3-8 TREF = 3120T TRFC = 30

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(TRFC 30, TRAS 8)TREF 2600T Vs. TREF 3120T - Memory Read = + 19 MB/s Memory Write = +3 MB/s Memory Copy = +31 MB/s Memory Latency = + 0ns

400 x 8 / 400 4-3-3-8 TREF = 3120T TRFC = 28

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(TREF 3120T, TRAS 8)TRFC 30 Vs. TRFC 28 - Memory Read = + 13 MB/s Memory Write = -1 MB/s Memory Copy = +21 MB/s Memory Latency = - 0.1ns​

Thanks,
Amey

 

[hellgate]

hey buddy why didnt u try to oc that E8500 with that mobo??cud hav give us an idea bout the mobos capability while oc'ing a E8xxx procy.

 

[darklord]

Which board ?

 

[hellgate]

the biostar that u used for those benches.

 

[axxo]

it seems he already runs benchmarks on E8500...

Test Setup -
Intel C2D E8500 (Stock Cooler)
Biostar P35 Board
Team Xtreem PC2 6400 CL4 2GB (2.4V VDIMM)
Corsair VX450W PSU

 

[darklord]

The above testing that i have posted,has been done with Biostar and the E8500.
Foxconn MARS is out for benching

 

[Demonkiller]

Unless your gonna buy a new CPU every 4-5 months I wouldnt recommend you to OC untill you get an aftemarket cooler. I Only loaded at 62c at 3.5ghz with 1.6V for a sucide run.

For all you sceptics

 

[hellgate]

most oc'er do hav after market coolers.
and i dont think u need to change ur procy every 4-5months even if u oc with a stock HSF.all u need to do is keep a check on the vcore and max load temps that ur getting.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

bump...

I myself am thinking of an upgrade in a few months, for which there is a 40% chance to occur(in my situation, 40% is very good indeed)

I liked aXXo's setup, and I am thinking of a similar one.

firstly, I want to know if both E2140 and E2160 have the same overclocking potential, and the same max clockspeeds at a given setting.

Secondly, which budget-ish mobo should I go for to get 3+ GHz on overclocking using stock cooler ?

Can you suggest any cheap cooler which can help achieve clockspeeds over 3 GHz if the stock cooler can't do it, and what is the cost of one ?

Is it cheaper to go for mobo with over 3GHz potential OC or is it cheaper to go for mobo which can't go over 3GHz OC with stock along with a cooler ?

And lastly, which is the best chipset to OC an Intel E2140 or E2160 ?

 

[axxo]

Thats a good decision....but to achieve 3ghz+ with stock cooler you need to invest in better motherboard. Bcoz in my case i pushed my vcore votage to 1.55v to obtain 3.4ghz which could have been easily reached in case of an abit p35 mobo with far less voltage. @ low vcore proc runs cooler.

Cost difference between E2140 and E2160 is negligible +/- 200 bucks. I guess all E21xx proc will overclock well when coupled with good mobo. Get a p35 chipset based motherboard for E21xx..if possible get hold of a budget cooler (coolermaster hyper L2/artic freezer f7 for 1.7k).

 

[hellgate]

the cheapest mobo that can help u to achieve 3GHz and above is XFX 630i.but it doesnt hav dual channel ram support.so gaming performance will be a bit low.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Thats a good decision....but to achieve 3ghz+ with stock cooler you need to invest in better motherboard. Bcoz in my case i pushed my vcore votage to 1.55v to obtain 3.4ghz which could have been easily reached in case of an abit p35 mobo with far less voltage. @ low vcore proc runs cooler.

Cost difference between E2140 and E2160 is negligible +/- 200 bucks. I guess all E21xx proc will overclock well when coupled with good mobo. Get a p35 chipset based motherboard for E21xx..if possible get hold of a budget cooler (coolermaster hyper L2/artic freezer f7 for 1.7k).

the cheapest mobo that can help u to achieve 3GHz and above is XFX 630i.but it doesnt hav dual channel ram support.so gaming performance will be a bit low.

please tell me the prices of P35 mobos available
and can XFX 630i do 3 GHz on stock ? What about 3.6 GHz ?

and whats the cost of E2180 ?

 

[axxo]

please tell me the prices of P35 mobos available
and can XFX 630i do 3 GHz on stock ? What about 3.6 GHz ?

and whats the cost of E2180 ?

Just got the price update from deltapage...E2160 retails around 2.9k, E2180 3.1k better to go for the later.

I dont think you can find xfx 630i in the market....better pick any of the p35 chipset mobo

MSI P35 NEO-COMBO-F 5750
ABIT IP35-E 5450
BIOSTAR TP35D2-A7 4600

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Just got the price update from deltapage...E2160 retails around 2.9k, E2180 3.1k better to go for the later.

I dont think you can find xfx 630i in the market....better pick any of the p35 chipset mobo

MSI P35 NEO-COMBO-F 5750
ABIT IP35-E 5450
BIOSTAR TP35D2-A7 4600

theitwares lists E2160 at 2.7k, so at that price, isn't it better looking ?

deltapage fails to load on my BSNL H500. I have very low surfing speeds, but decent speeds using my download manager. I guess BSNL is limiting the bandwidth per instance, because I am downloading too much. Screw them.

Anyway, the price difference b/w 2140, 2160 and 2180 is my main area of concern. 2140 and 2160 have Rs. 200 differnece and the later has 1x more multiplier. So 2160 >> 2140. I was wondering if its the same for 2180. Is the price of 2180 really 3.1k and not 2.9k or something ?

and from what I know, the difference between the E2XX0(not axxo) series is this:

14 8x
16 9x
18 10x
21 11x
22 12x

etc etc in multipliyer values

but the fact remains that the one which hits mobo limit before its own limit is not as good as the one which has both limits as the same.

I heard that there is a chance for those with luck that the E2140 bought can do a 100% OC at stock cooling. Is it true ?

And what will be the heat of E2180 on a good P35 mobo at 4GHz ? And how stable is it expected to be ?

If I use XFX 630i, and that 1.7k cooler, can I manage 100% OC on an E2xx0 processor ?

 

[Pathik]

Don't get a 630i. Get the MSI P35 Neo Combo or the Abit IP35e.

 

[hellgate]

And what will be the heat of E2180 on a good P35 mobo at 4GHz ? And how stable is it expected to be ?

If I use XFX 630i, and that 1.7k cooler, can I manage 100% OC on an E2xx0 processor ?

u wont be able to attain a 100% oc of E2180 on air cooling.