Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[Choto Cheeta]

@Goobi Sorry for the late reply...

25k Budget, and for an office system with a TFT must...

As its an office system I dont think the value seriese TFTs would be a bad idea... i have seen view sonic VA seriese options and they are not bad at all its the vx which I see gives problem every where, so I would say 19" va1903wm which is Rs. 8500/-

so I would think of this,

AMD X2 4000+ @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
ASUS M2N-MX SE @ Rs. 2400 /- + TAX
2 GB (1x2) DDR-II 667 MHz Kingstone @ Rs. 2200 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Any good looking Cabinet with default PSU @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
19" TFT VA1903wm @ Rs. 8500 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 500 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX

TAX (@ 4% VAT) Rs. 884/-
Total Rs. 22984/-

With this config u have a 2k margine as some time u may see the 1903wm model not available so there u may have to think for va1912wm or the vg1930wm

thnx...


@Musicmaker23

I am not talking about bigger heavy upgrades but adding few rams after an year wont be a bad idea...

for 55k you may consider this bellow config

Intel Q6600 @ Rs. 11500 /- + TAX
ASUS P5N32-E Sli @ Rs. 11000 /- + TAX
XFX 8800 GT 512 MB @ Rs. 13000 /- + TAX
4 GB (2GBx2) DDR-II 667 MHz Kingstone / Transend @ Rs. 5200 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16 MB Buffer (Segate / Samsung / WD) @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Good looking Zebronics or iBall Cabinet @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
Cooler Master 600 Watts @ Rs. 3200 /- + TAX

TAX (@ 4% VAT) Rs. 1992 /-
Total Rs. 51792 /-


I would add up that if possible then get a cooler like ThermalRight ultra 120 eXtreme which will allow the Q6600 to run at or more than 3.0 GHz

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@Orionz
we can't expect more from an integrated graphics.
X1250 and n7050 is the best onboard GFX available....but i say it can't be copared with even the lowest of a standalone GFX card.
Even a 2.2k 8400GS is hell of a lot better than that.

And is that 17fps@800*600 low with onboard GFX? With a 7900 one can probably play HL2 LC @ 1280*1024 @ max with bout 40+fps.

Even i finished HL2 EP1 on my 4200+ and 7600GT @ 1280*960@max with more than 30~35fps.

In the case of onboard GFX, the onboard GPU is highly bottleneck, but its purpose is to allow some low level gaming..say FarCry, Quake 4 @ low~med etc.
X1250 can handle FarCry @ 800*600@ high~veryhigh with AA 0ff. playable with avg 25 fps.

 

[goobimama]

Thanks a lot Saurav. Seems to be a good system. One more thing, will it be completely Ubuntu compatible? Also, I guess with the prices out here, it will most likely touch 25k. I might remove the extra gig of RAM and make it 80Gigs for HDD. But thanks for the config.

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@Choto Cheeta
does M2N MX SE support basic overclocking like CPU frequency nd multuplier. Im sure it dun haf voltage tweaks.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

@goobimama

Fedora / Ubuntu runs fine under this board... and prices are upto date so may be 500 would be the max which u should need to pay for the hardware now cant say how much for the assemble if u dont do it by ur self...

@aravind_n20

it supports some basic OC with multiple and preset frequency as well as 4 step voltage control too ... (refer to the Manual of M2N-MX SE here at this bellow images)

*img129.imageshack.us/img129/8880/amdlf1.jpg

Also you get to adjust the RAM timings too but with limitations

*img70.imageshack.us/img70/2497/amdxo6.jpg

howver for advance OC one would need to consider the M2NPV-VM

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@Choto Cheeta
thnx man
i was confused b/w M2N MX nd M2A Vm. Im also getting him an 8600GT, so so need of gud onboard GFX.

 

[Orionz]

@Orionz
we can't expect more from an integrated graphics.
X1250 and n70............... GFX card.
Even a 2.2k 840....................... a 7900 on...
.......

So it is now final for me to go for
AMD Athlon 5200+ -=-> CPU [Ithink i will definitely go for it
ASUS M2A-VM -=-> MOBO [NO HDMI-"will help me in my budget"]
[or any other mobo with n7050 Chipset] which is best...
------------------------------------???????????????

What abt the future upgrades........Something abt GPU???????

Waiting..........

Clear my doubts n leave me to get my new upgrades................. Cant wait...

 

[Pathik]

^^ You can get either this
*www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/content.php?S_ID=307
or this
*www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=TF7150U-M7
With the e4500 if u want..
and if u do take a x2 5200+ make sure it is a 65nm brisbane

 

[Sreeejith]

My friend need a 19" widescreen LCD monitor under 10k. Can anybody suggest a good one?

 

[Orionz]

^^ You can get either this
*www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/content.php?S_ID=307
or this
*www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=TF7150U-M7
With the e4500 if u want..
and if u do take a x2 5200+ make sure it is a 65nm brisbane

Those are also good boards wint intel Cpus......My choice is Amd.....
coz the given biostar board can only share graphics memory up to 512mb.....n the
asus am2 vm with x1250 chipset can be shared up to 1024 mb..of graphics memory.

See the diffrence betn...512MB-------=---------1024MB.
==================================================

and if u do take a x2 5200+ make sure it is a 65nm brisbane

Wht.......

 

[arun_chennai]

Firstly they are native quad cores and secondly they have bigger FSB and absolutely they will are better performer than the good ol' X2 Athlons!

No mate u r talking about "ON PAPER" improvements but in real world benchmarks there r no improvements (atleast not till now)

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@Orionz
It won't make much difference if the max GFX mem is 512 or 1GB. Performance will be more or less the same as such GPUs can't even use full potential of even 256 MB running @ 1333Mhz[667 in dual].

Even in some cards like 7600GS 256 dn 512, the 256 may have better or same performance as 512 coz even that GPU can't use full memory as the bottleneck is GPU nd not the GFX memory.

7050 mobo ll be better in terms of future proof, coz its SM3.0 but itll e costly.
But ull get at same price point as M2A VM as M2AVM is ASUS
And the other is a Biostar.

Both the 7050 nd M2A VM are gud. Decide considering their prices at ur local store nd in case of Biostar, availability may be an issue.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

No mate u r talking about "ON PAPER" improvements but in real world benchmarks there r no improvements (atleast not till now)

Hit this:
*www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_9600/

 

[Edburg]

One of my friend is goin for a gigh end system....

1)Q6600
2)Mobo
3)4 GB RAM
4)Graphic card
6)250 GB
5)Cabinet

the rest he has with him....

Now he was about to buy a intel G33 board...i insisted that he go for a P35 board from other vendors...he wont overclock so i dont know what to tell him to not to buy an intel board....also which P35 will be better i was thinking of biostar P35

his budget for graphic card was 7k but i aske dto go for 8800GT...

will the default one with new cabi SMPS be enough ? The one from his previous P4 PC(G865GBF socket 478 with AGP graphic) wont work will it ?

 

[gulgulumaal]

What do you guys think of this combo and the price?

Jetway M26GT3-SVP Mobo - Rs 2200
AMD Sempron LE-1100 Proccy - Rs 1650

I already have the rest of the stuff (1GB DDR2 RAM + DVD Writer + HDD + keyb/mouse/monitor etc)

I'm planning to use the cabinet/SMPS from my old P3 for this.
It's a 20 pin SMPS with following rating

TOTAL OUTPUT - 235W

+5V - 25A
+12V - 8A
+3.3V - 12A
SB +5V - 1A
-5V - 0.5A
-12V - 0.5A

+5V + 3.3V - 125W MAX

Do you think I'll be able to use the SMPS for the new system (maybe with a 20 to 24 pin adapter) ?

 

[janitha]

What do you guys think of this combo and the price?

Jetway M26GT3-SVP Mobo - Rs 2200
AMD Sempron LE-1100 Proccy - Rs 1650

I already have the rest of the stuff (1GB DDR2 RAM + DVD Writer + HDD + keyb/mouse/monitor etc)

I'm planning to use the cabinet/SMPS from my old P3 for this.
It's a 20 pin SMPS with following rating

TOTAL OUTPUT - 235W

+5V - 25A
+12V - 8A
+3.3V - 12A
SB +5V - 1A
-5V - 0.5A
-12V - 0.5A

+5V + 3.3V - 125W MAX

Do you think I'll be able to use the SMPS for the new system (maybe with a 20 to 24 pin adapter) ?

Better buy a 400W PSU with24 pin. It won't cost much.

 

[SystemError]

@goobimama

can u plz post the price of the hardware in goa and from which dealer AFAIK ASIC doesnt sell AMD so which is the next best dealer for AMD.

@all

i need a new system config budget 12k only Cabinet part ie CPU+Mobo+HDD(80GB)+RAM(1GB)+CABBY w/PSU

plz provide me info for AMD as well as Intel based configs.
and will these configs be Vista Capable or Premium Ready with aditional GPU Card.

Thanks in advance.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

One of my friend is goin for a gigh end system....

1)Q6600
2)Mobo
3)4 GB RAM
4)Graphic card
6)250 GB
5)Cabinet

the rest he has with him....

Now he was about to buy a intel G33 board...i insisted that he go for a P35 board from other vendors...he wont overclock so i dont know what to tell him to not to buy an intel board....also which P35 will be better i was thinking of biostar P35

his budget for graphic card was 7k but i aske dto go for 8800GT...

will the default one with new cabi SMPS be enough ? The one from his previous P4 PC(G865GBF socket 478 with AGP graphic) wont work will it ?

THis entire system is good but u need to mention a little bit of price range too.
Anyways tell him to buy ASUS P5N E SLI motherboard since its better than Intel Original and also u are insisting him to buy 8800 GT so it will give best performance when paired with nVidia card and chipset.

Most of the Intel originals support ATi cards but they can easily be combined with nVidia cards also!

Also check the ASUS P5K C which supports both DDR2 as well as DDR3 RAM!

Please also consider the Power requirements of your system becaus u have to have atleast 500W PSU.

 

[sonu1983]

ok guys am going in for this config..plz do suggest if any changes..budget is 45-50k...

athlon 4800+ = 3950
MSI K9AG NEO2-DIGITAL = 4800
1x1GB 800MHZ RAM TRANCERD = 2500
250GB SEAGATE(16MB buffer) = 2800
monitor 19"(suggest 1 plz) =10,000
lite on dvd writer = 1250
cabinet = 1500
MSI 8800GT 512mb = 14,700
SMPS(do i go for zebronics 500 = 2000
watts platinum?)

If u guys feel anything needs to be changed .. plz do let me know..as ill be going with this config in 2 days..thanks in advance..

 

[Choto Cheeta]

^^^

Intel E6550 @ Rs. 7100 /- + TAX
XFX 650i Ultra @ Rs. 4600 /- + TAX
XFX 8800 GT 512 MB @ Rs. 13000 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz single Stick @ Rs. 2400 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16 Mb Buffer @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 450 /500 watts) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
19" View Sonic VG1930wm @ Rs. 9200 /- + TAX
Microsft Desktop Pro 700 Combo @ Rs. 650 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX


TAX (@ 4% VAT) Rs. 1914 /-

Total @ Rs. 49764 /-