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I wish to buy a descent webcam,1.3MP or more..along with a headfone+mic for video chatting purposes..within 1.5K..
for the headfone+mic,,i prefer less qeight,,ergonomic ones,,than heavy,,cramped ones..sound quality not much of a concern,as to be used only for chatting..
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
I wish to buy a descent webcam,1.3MP or more..along with a headfone+mic for video chatting purposes..within 1.5K..
for the headfone+mic,,i prefer less qeight,,ergonomic ones,,than heavy,,cramped ones..sound quality not much of a concern,as to be used only for chatting..
Go for Creative Live Web Cameras.. A WebCam Vista for 700 bucks or Live! for 1.1k..

For head phones, go for Creative HS150 for 700Rs, HS 390 for 800Rs and HS 400 for 1.1k..

Hope that helps u...
 

bansalayush

Broken In
great post.ati hd4850 is available for near 10000.and for the high end system i think asus p5q is more suitable as it is based on p45 .and for the power supply go for corsair 450w or 600w they are more efficient i have read in all the forums.
 

imgame2

Padawan
great post.ati hd4850 is available for near 10000.and for the high end system i think asus p5q is more suitable as it is based on p45 .and for the power supply go for corsair 450w or 600w they are more efficient i have read in all the forums.


seriously what are u talking here ..??
 

ironfreak

Journeyman
I've a query... How to judge which graphic card performs better than other? I want one for graphics, animation and compositing purpose. So which things I look in a card? (budget= Rs.15k)
 

imgame2

Padawan
I've a query... How to judge which graphic card performs better than other? I want one for graphics, animation and compositing purpose. So which things I look in a card? (budget= Rs.15k)


u mean u want a graphics for card Digital Content creation(DCC) or CAD ...if yes then u need a nvidia quadro fx 1500 ..for about 17.5k +taxes
 
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Psychosocial

Violent serenity.
I've a query... How to judge which graphic card performs better than other? I want one for graphics, animation and compositing purpose. So which things I look in a card? (budget= Rs.15k)

15k+2k = 17k

for 17k, go with Palit HD4870 and beleive me........you wont be dissapointed :).
 

ironfreak

Journeyman
u mean u want a graphics for card Digital Content creation(DCC) or CAD ...if yes then u need a nvidia quadro fx 1500 ..for about 17.5k +taxes
ya thats right i want for dcc. but whats the difference between quadro and gforce?

Ati hd 4850 and nvidia 9800 are the top cards in your budget.
which u will suggest? ati or nvidia?

15k+2k = 17k
for 17k, go with Palit HD4870 and beleive me........you wont be dissapointed :).
why palit and not sapphire?

to all:

at this budget, which gives better value for money- nvidia quadro, gforce or ati hd series?
 
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imgame2

Padawan
ya thats right i want for dcc. but whats the difference between quadro and gforce?


which u will suggest? ati or nvidia?


why palit and not sapphire?

to all:

at this budget, which gives better value for money- nvidia quadro, gforce or ati hd series?


well nvidia qudro is workstation gfx card and worstations gfx card very different from other desktop cards like geforce series ..for more specific difference read this whitepaper

www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_geforce.html

ATI HD cards are desktop cards supposed to compete with geforce series so they won't help u much ..u need to get quadro fx cards ..and above link should tell u why ....

ATI HD series and nvidia will give u better performace better in games not in CAD and DCC...
 

ironfreak

Journeyman
well nvidia qudro is workstation gfx card and worstations gfx card very different from other desktop cards like geforce series ..for more specific difference read this whitepaper

www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_geforce.html

ATI HD cards are desktop cards supposed to compete with geforce series so they won't help u much ..u need to get quadro fx cards ..and above link should tell u why ....

ATI HD series and nvidia will give u better performace better in games not in CAD and DCC...

Thats very useful pdf:). I'll take some time to read and understand it. But Apple also provides Gforce and Ati HD ~ XT series with Mac Pro.
well thats true quadro is specially aimed at dcc. but again dude that link by nvidia is nothing but their marketing strategy for quadro right? see i agree with gforce is consumer, gaming level and quadro being pro offers better performance than gforce.. but i want value for money too. First of all fx 1500 is out of budget and i will be mostly using the compositing and editing softwares. for example if we compare the performance of 9800 gtx+ and fx1500/1700 will there be a noticeable, considerable performace difference? im using at home level, little higher than amature (or semi-pro, pro-like) work. not much into designing/modelling.

what about the GTX 260 and Ati FireGL series?
and how much quadro fx1700 costs??
 
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imgame2

Padawan
Thats very useful pdf:). I'll take some time to read and understand it. But Apple also provides Gforce and Ati HD ~ XT series with Mac Pro.
well thats true quadro is specially aimed at dcc. but again dude that link by nvidia is nothing but their marketing strategy for quadro right? see i agree with gforce is consumer, gaming level and quadro being pro offers better performance than gforce.. but i want value for money too. First of all fx 1500 is out of budget and i will be mostly using the compositing and editing softwares. for example if we compare the performance of 9800 gtx+ and fx1500/1700 will there be a noticeable, considerable performace difference? im using at home level, little higher than amature (or semi-pro, pro-like) work. not much into designing/modelling.

what about the GTX 260 and Ati FireGL series?
and how much quadro fx1700 costs??

didn't know u were looking for Mac Pro ..they not popular anyway ....if u see the graphics performance ..consumer graphics card perform better ....

and yes u better decide what u want ..cos workstation gfx card have better driver support so that it can work faster with various DCC and CAD softwares ..being it 3Dmax,Pro-E ,autocad and similar ones ...what makes workstation gfx card special is that they have driver support for these softwares ..to these expensive softwares thats why they are costly ...

quadro fx 1700 is better than fx1500 so obviously its costly ..its about 25k ...

check the more prices here

*www.lynx-india.com/index.php?categoryID=1105&sort=Price&direction=DESC

but if u really can go on with a consumer gfx card ..i would suggest gowith GTX260 ..if u can ...u will have CUDA at ur disposal ...or 9800gtx+ but its not value for money when it comes to HD4850 ...@9.2k at the performance HD4850 gives it beats 9800gtx+ ...in gaming ..don't know so much about the other applications ...ur choice ...

first decide what u want ...?? are u a pro ..?? u have to answer taht question to urself ...
 

ironfreak

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didn't know u were looking for Mac Pro ..they not popular anyway ....if u see the graphics performance ..consumer graphics card perform better ....

and yes u better decide what u want ..cos workstation gfx card have better driver support so that it can work faster with various DCC and CAD softwares ..being it 3Dmax,Pro-E ,autocad and similar ones ...what makes workstation gfx card special is that they have driver support for these softwares ..to these expensive softwares thats why they are costly ...

quadro fx 1700 is better than fx1500 so obviously its costly ..its about 25k ...

check the more prices here

*www.lynx-india.com/index.php?categoryID=1105&sort=Price&direction=DESC

but if u really can go on with a consumer gfx card ..i would suggest gowith GTX260 ..if u can ...u will have CUDA at ur disposal ...or 9800gtx+ but its not value for money when it comes to HD4850 ...@9.2k at the performance HD4850 gives it beats 9800gtx+ ...in gaming ..don't know so much about the other applications ...ur choice ...

first decide what u want ...?? are u a pro ..?? u have to answer taht question to urself ...

No Im not thinking of having Mac pro. Just gave u example to show that they also come consumer cards with it.
Anyways i've extended budget till 20k. Im really in love with quadro but somewhere I feel that the low end will not have vfm compared with gforce or ati hd in the same price tag. if one want quadro, mid high-end is the real deal ! but thats outta budget. quadro will provide separate acceleration to each quadrant but i ain't much gonna use 3ds max or maya for modelling/designing. i guess at this quadro series is aimed. what im mostly gonna do is compositing, editing, vfx (colour grading, blue screen, etc). but sometimes will be doing little animation. in short what i wanna say is if u wanna feel quadro, get the high end (30-40k range walla) otherwise consumer around 20k range will give more vfm. thats what i think. its just my own opinion seeing the feaures of cards. i don't now if anyone has compared fx1500 with 9800gtx or 260.
correct me if im wrong buddy.:)

(and i was talking about mac pro bcos i've plan to try Shake on OS X86:D)
 

imgame2

Padawan
No Im not thinking of having Mac pro. Just gave u example to show that they also come consumer cards with it.
Anyways i've extended budget till 20k. Im really in love with quadro but somewhere I feel that the low end will not have vfm compared with gforce or ati hd in the same price tag. if one want quadro, mid high-end is the real deal ! but thats outta budget. quadro will provide separate acceleration to each quadrant but i ain't much gonna use 3ds max or maya for modelling/designing. i guess at this quadro series is aimed. what im mostly gonna do is compositing, editing, vfx (colour grading, blue screen, etc). but sometimes will be doing little animation. in short what i wanna say is if u wanna feel quadro, get the high end (30-40k range walla) otherwise consumer around 20k range will give more vfm. thats what i think. its just my own opinion seeing the feaures of cards. i don't now if anyone has compared fx1500 with 9800gtx or 260.
correct me if im wrong buddy.:)

(and i was talking about mac pro bcos i've plan to try Shake on OS X86:D)

first things first ...
1)don't know about MAC never worked on them...so can't comment ..
2)can't comment on their graphics capability as i haven't had chance to see what difference does it make ..worked on quadro fx 1700 pretty much gets the job done for i did ...don't know about ur work ...though.

and i hope these links might help u ...

*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/FireGL-Quadro-Workstation,1995.html

*www.www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/quadro-fx5600-fx4600.html

benchmarks of most of the workstation cards here -

*www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/specapc-3ds-max-9-graphics,117.html

if u ever want to go for consumer cards ...don't consider 9800gtx+ ...gtx260 (core 216 ..if u get it has more to offer for ur work )near 20k is best choice for u if u look for money ...and nVidia card has CUDA i don't know how much it can be useful for u but only the fact u can do something with CUDA with consumer cards ..gives nvidia a slight advantage ...please look through and tell us what u decide ...to buy ..
 

tkin

Back to school!!
first things first ...
1)don't know about MAC never worked on them...so can't comment ..
2)can't comment on their graphics capability as i haven't had chance to see what difference does it make ..worked on quadro fx 1700 pretty much gets the job done for i did ...don't know about ur work ...though.

and i hope these links might help u ...

*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/FireGL-Quadro-Workstation,1995.html

*www.www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/quadro-fx5600-fx4600.html

benchmarks of most of the workstation cards here -

*www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/specapc-3ds-max-9-graphics,117.html

if u ever want to go for consumer cards ...don't consider 9800gtx+ ...gtx260 (core 216 ..if u get it has more to offer for ur work )near 20k is best choice for u if u look for money ...and nVidia card has CUDA i don't know how much it can be useful for u but only the fact u can do something with CUDA with consumer cards ..gives nvidia a slight advantage ...please look through and tell us what u decide ...to buy ..
There's a 8800GT(nVidia) for MAC, dunno anything else.
 

ironfreak

Journeyman
first things first ...
1)don't know about MAC never worked on them...so can't comment ..
2)can't comment on their graphics capability as i haven't had chance to see what difference does it make ..worked on quadro fx 1700 pretty much gets the job done for i did ...don't know about ur work ...though.

and i hope these links might help u ...

*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/FireGL-Quadro-Workstation,1995.html

*www.www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/quadro-fx5600-fx4600.html

benchmarks of most of the workstation cards here -

*www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/specapc-3ds-max-9-graphics,117.html

if u ever want to go for consumer cards ...don't consider 9800gtx+ ...gtx260 (core 216 ..if u get it has more to offer for ur work )near 20k is best choice for u if u look for money ...and nVidia card has CUDA i don't know how much it can be useful for u but only the fact u can do something with CUDA with consumer cards ..gives nvidia a slight advantage ...please look through and tell us what u decide ...to buy ..

ok i'll check those links and ley u know. but what about 4870 ?
 

imgame2

Padawan
ok i'll check those links and ley u know. but what about 4870 ?


HD4870 is the most VFM gfx card u can get today ...nothing beats it ...it beats gtx260 .....nVidia launched a new core 216 model of gtx260 ...but ATI lauched HD4870 1GB ..which is again ahead of new gtx260 model ..and the fact that HD4870 performs almost equal to gtx280 in few games ...makes it extremely good card to buy ...if u are looking for VFM ...this it the model ....and as u might have read that ...soft modding can be done ..to do whatever u can do with a workstation gfx card ..which will offcourse void ur warrenty ...

HD4870 is available for ...17~18k approx ...u will have to decide what u want to sacrifice and what u want to choose ...

gtx260 is available for 19.5k .. ..and HD4870 performs better than gtx260 ..
 
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