Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[DigitalDude]

^^
yes... if you run latest games in higher resolutions... but not much if you dont want to run with bleeding edge resolutions

9600GT and 8800GT even have PCIe 2.0 specs... so you are infact reducing much of their potential by having the 8x SLI



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[adithyagenius]

^^ i am looking for reliable info. People were speculating similiarly about 7900GTX being bottlenecked by 8x. But testing found that 16x didin't help 7900GTX. I don't want to buy 780i A1 edition for 16k and later cry that I wated 10k due to speculation. Can you confirm it?

 

[DigitalDude]

yes its true that 16x doesnt offer gr8 performance advantages over 8x if using normal resolutions, but if you go to res like 2560×1600 then there might be performance benefits depending on your sys config. there are various benchmarks to demonstrate this.

dont base your buying decision of a 780i mobo just bcos it offers 16x SLI then you would be dissappointed as 16x SLI is not as juicy as it appears. but if you are the type that even considers 5 to 10% improvement as gr8 then go for the 16x SLI..

also gfx cards practically dont use the whole bandwidth of PCIe all the time..


in short: the bottleneck is not massive and you are fine with your 650i if 8x SLI is your only concern


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[adithyagenius]

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I am thinking of 9600GT KO or nx8800gt (both factory oced) in sli for 1680*1050 res gaming. 8x wont bottleneck. if performane drops by >10% i can get 3870x2 on 16x single card setup and getter better fps and save money or go for 750i for 4k more. whats your opnion?

 

[channabasanna]

41 degrees was of the motherboard, processor was also in the limit. I will try using those 2 tools.

Can you tell me how to update the bios of ASUS Maximus Formula, also tell me how to find which version i have in my system (other than BIOS), i have downloaded the update version 0907.

Also tell me about the limit in which the motherboard should be in, including NB, SB etc...

 

[rahulmig]

@adithyagenius

Why Not Go for EVGA 9800GTX 512 mb ddr3

 

[mayanksharma]

@adithya,
As far as i have seen, the performance difference is negligible at most resolutions. Scores at Futuremark with 680i mobo using SLI setup are just a penny high than SLI setup with 650is! One more thing, PCI 1.1 and PCI 2.0 technologies are good as it sounds. When it comes to practicality, the performance difference between both is none! No GPU in market, is utilizing that much of bandwidth provided by 2.0 specs. So, better not to worry about that part much! Though, in future it will!

@coolest111,
lol..the name "HexaCore" in itself is funny!! Call it Dunnington btw!

@channabasanna,
U can use CPU-Z ! Well, regarding temps..anything below 45 degrees is excellent during load for a C2Q !
Same goes for NB as well!

@rahulmig,
with that whopping 9800GTX price tag, u can easily purchase 2 9600GTs or 2 8800GTs and build a SLI setup, that can outperform a single 9800GTX in almost every possible benchmark!! And that is enough for making the choice quite clear in everybody's mind!

 

[DigitalDude]

@rahulimg
what is the price ??

@adithya
I guess you can go for 3870x2 as cross fire will scale better in low-mid resolutions... SLI is great for higher resolutions
and either save yourself from buying a new mobo or upgrade to one with good intel chipset to go with your 3870x2

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[adithyagenius]

@digitaldue
I heard that 3870x2 sucks in dx10 at all resolutions although its faster at lower resolution in dx9. I wouldn't want to spend 60k and have no dx10 gaming. Also its noisier than 2 9600gt in general. I dont know about gecube one though but its cheap so it should also make more noise. I am spending 11k to make sure my cabinet and psu dont make noise. I have now knocked out 3870x2 from possibilities. I feel sad at less number of choices. If 9600gt gets slowed down by 8x pcie slots, I would definitely go for a higher chipset.

@rahulmig
because 9800gtx is slower than 2 9600gt and even costs more. I can take the price difference and buy sli mobo. actually even 3870x2 beats 9800gtx.

@mayanksharma
I know pc-e 2.0 is useless for my cards. But 8x pci-e 650i vs 16x pci-e 680i? if there is no difference they why is everyone hyping bus bandwidth issues and make pci-e 2 16x which is 4 times faster than pci-e 8x? isn't this confusing?

 

[sivarap]

Can i go in for the Gigabit NVDIA 610 based motherboard? it costs 2800...plz help
any major disadvantage over XFX 630i otherthan the GPU?

 

[nish_higher]

I know pc-e 2.0 is useless for my cards. But 8x pci-e 650i vs 16x pci-e 680i? if there is no difference they why is everyone hyping bus bandwidth issues and make pci-e 2 16x which is 4 times faster than pci-e 8x? isn't this confusing?

there is a very slight difference if u consider extreme high end cards but not otherwise.check my siggy-i got a 680i ultra.i also got a P5n-e-sli and P5n 32 e- sli..all perform the same in that department.

you should buy a 750i mobo,preferably a P7N-Sli platinum-the best right now.

 

[rahulmig]

Price For EVGA 9800 GTX is 19.5k

 

[fuzzz]

well i was thinking of purchasing a new cpu cooler
my choice was the arctic freezer pro7.. do you think its a good buy? else if u could suggest something better
also could some1 tell me where i can buy arctic silver 5& the arctic freezer pro in mumbai ? cause in andheri its not available (never even heard of it !)

 

[mayanksharma]

Yep it is a good buy. U need to be specific about ur system processor. You can also look for Coolermaster Hyper 212 instead. Better than Freezer! Though, check the dimensions for fitment in the cabinet!
In Mumbai, u can contact....ITWare Hub or something like that. May be other mumbai members can give u the exact contact details.

 

[monkey]

Price For EVGA 9800 GTX is 19.5k

Where did you get this price from?

 

[nish_higher]

^^ i am looking for reliable info. People were speculating similiarly about 7900GTX being bottlenecked by 8x. But testing found that 16x didin't help 7900GTX. I don't want to buy 780i A1 edition for 16k and later cry that I wated 10k due to speculation. Can you confirm it?

780 i is 14-14.5k and not 16k

 

[scavanger007]

err reading the above posts confused me even more......
C i have set 20k budget for my graphics card......
so which one should i opt for?

 

[mayanksharma]

A 8800GTS from MSI/XFX/EVGA!
Or even a 9800GTX from Asus, if ppl are telling the price below 20K, which i dont believe!

 

[DigitalDude]

Where did you get this price from?

he is a hardware dealer himself

but XFX NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2-based graphics card - Rs.45,999/- (Source)

so rahulji might have mistaken something else...

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[sagardani]

How much Intel® Desktop Board DX38BT costs ? Hows it over MSI P7n Sli if one has money to go for it?