ATTENTION!!! Palagrism

[Choto Cheeta]

the number of unethical copy+paster is huge... they are the majority...

but does that mean I ask every one to follow their path ??

No, not that..., question is some thing else... still I didnt get my answer, should we stop information to reach out for those extra 200 beause the person who shared the information to those 200 extra poeple without giving credit (in terms fame) for our work ??

Web is a great resource of information, but have you ever wondered about the amount of false (at times deliberately false, sensational and/or "ad-sense optinised") content out there? A copy+paster has no knowledge of what he is doing and "shares the info" whether right or wrong! The original author will in due course correct his mistakes (1 web-page), but the copies (100 web-pages as per your numbers) will keep floating around and mislead people.

this is a negative thought !!! I have already posted a reply based on this fact which u have put up here, let me quote my self.. its in the second page of this thread...

Suppose even Mr. X copy ur guide, post it him name, still he has to troubleshoot questions... which I am sure he cant if its just a copy paste... eventually the question maker would search and land up at your place to seek the information he wanted... but do note, the information visibility has increased even if some one followed an unethical path

There surely a fine line between SHARING and STEALING.

stealing ?? but that word is helping you to archive the main and only target which is information reaching out for all...

What harm is it doing to us ?? yes if we think what ever we are doing, we are doing for fame / credit then it is causing a real harm... but if our gaol is to make sure information reach out for all, then is it really harming that cuase ??

this debate for sure is gonna continue for ages & then also there wouldn't be any solution to the issue......

well if you see its just me who is trying to find the reason, wondering what are we doing here, what is the reason for us to come here, are we here because I want credit / I want fame or are we here to make sure information reach to all !!!

if we are here to make sure information reach all, then why are we putting bars in it with word of stealing / Palagiasm and such.. ??

 

[tuxfan]

the number of unethical copy+paster is huge... they are the majority...

but does that mean I ask every one to follow their path ??

I guess what we are discussing here is whether it is ethical/right to copy+paste and I will say it isn't right. There is no way to stop the buggers even if you apply some license to it. If this thraed is about stopping people from copy+paste, then in current circumstances, I will have just one word for it "impossible".

No, not that..., question is some thing else... still I didnt get my answer, should we stop information to reach out for those extra 200 beause the person who shared the information to those 200 extra poeple without giving credit (in terms fame) for our work ??

As I already mentioned, if the purpose is to share information, there are better ways of doing it like posting links to the original article (and not copy+paste). This will be the right way for information to spread. It would have reached all those 200 people and in the right fashion with due credit to the original writer.

this is a negative thought !!!

Of course it is! But you can't deny that it is a possibility. And mainly due to this reason, reliability of information on web can be at stake!

I have already posted a reply based on this fact which u have put up here, let me quote my self.. its in the second page of this thread...

And this is an over-optimistic thought! Mr. X will probably not bother to reply to trouble-shooting questions for two reasons!

One, he has no knowledge and
Two, he will rather prefer looking at some more articles worth a copy+paste.

And "eventually land up" is full of delays and presumption! If Mr. X would have posted the link to the original, the information-seeker would have got the right info faster, either thru this link or thru google which would have brought the original link higher up in ranking due to links!

stealing ?? but that word is helping you to archive the main and only target which is information reaching out for all...

What harm is it doing to us ?? yes if we think what ever we are doing, we are doing for fame / credit then it is causing a real harm... but if our gaol is to make sure information reach out for all, then is it really harming that cuase ??

I (and most others) are not saints! We need motivation to do things. If not money then some name, some fame, some appreciation, some return in some way, howsoever small it may be. If someone snatches that credit from me, it is stealing. It is wrongful gain at my cost. As I said, the main purpose of copy+paste is not to spread information, but to gain out of other's efforts.

UPDATE:

still u didnt touch the big question, so should we stop all those 10 unethical person by whom information could have reached that extra 200

The question "should we stop" has two meanings.

First "should we stop" or no? Is it unethical/wrong or not?
Yes, it is surely wrong. In the absence of "pretenders" the information seeker is likely to reach the real source of information faster.

Second, it is wrong to rip, but "should we stop" or just tolerate?
Just tolerate. Howsoever hard you may try, once something is on web, you can't stop copy+paste.

 

[infra_red_dude]

I guess I've cleared my stand here. I partially agree with our dear ol' mod and saurav.

This is what I want:

1) My main aim is to spread authentic knowledge and discourage unethical credit and discredit.

2) I do not insist anyone to mention my name, link to my homepage or anything. If they feel they should give credit to my work, they do. I verify the article in such cases.

3) If they don't mention my name, link or give credit to me for my work, then I don't bug them, I don't even bother. But I again verify the article.

4) If anyone copy pastes my article and claims that its his article, I take up arms against him and get the article down. The people reading such blogs never know who was the original author of the articles.

So you see I only haf problems with people who do not give correct info and those who falsely claim someone else's work as theirs.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

I (and most others) are not saints! We need motivation to do things. If not money then some name, some fame, some appreciation, some return in some way, howsoever small it may be. If someone snatches that credit from me, it is stealing. It is wrongful gain at my cost.

this is what I am against of the meaning of Voluntarily work is changing here our work is now coming with a price tag of appriciation / credit / fame or such

unfortunatelly after this statement I cant arguee any more i value every ones thougts...

 

[x3060]

yeah, like i said , when most of the things start out, they do tend to start in a good way , and then i see poeple devaiting...

now i now how DRM came in to light...

well, am not accusing anyone here, but some times truth is stranger than what it seems to be....

 

[tuxfan]

4) If anyone copy pastes my article and claims that its his article, I take up arms against him and get the article down.

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So you see I only haf problems with people who do not give correct info and those who falsely claim someone else's work as theirs.

Thats what plagiarism is and that is what I condemn! If after gathering knowledge from various places I write something in my own words, it isn't plagiarism.

I am against misrepresentation

this is what I am against of the meaning of Voluntarily work is changing here our work is now coming with a price tag of appriciation / credit / fame or such

unfortunatelly after this statement I cant arguee any more i value every ones thougts...

Ah! Ok, I got carried away a bit thinking you are justifying copy+paste.

Afters hundreds of posts at various forums and a few tutorials at my blog, I can say that I have been involved into voluntary work. As you can see, I don't even have adsense at my blog at present. But don't you value comments? If someone just says two words "NICE TUTORIAL" it peps you up to write more! But if someone else who just copy+pastes and gets all the adulation that you deserve, that's not done!

But go on Saurav, you are probably following what Krishna said to Arjuna in Bhagvad Gita

Bhagvad Gita, Shlok 2.47
karmany evadhikaras te ma phalesu kadacana
ma karma-phala-hetur bhur ma te sango 'stv akarmani

You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty.