MetalheadGautham
AFK
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
Err.... Bulldozer and then Pilediver with a Trinity. What next ?? AMD 69-core CPUs ??
Err.... Bulldozer and then Pilediver with a Trinity. What next ?? AMD 69-core CPUs ??
AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
d6bmg
BMG ftw!!
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
These are nothing but gossip. For practical example, remember the pre-launch BD benchmarks.
These are nothing but gossip. For practical example, remember the pre-launch BD benchmarks.
OP
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
More depressing news:-
Manufacturing bombshell: AMD cancels 28nm APUs, starts from scratch at TSMC | ExtremeTech
On the plus side, this might force AMD to come out with some new ideas which might click.
At this moment, that's hoping against hope.
More depressing news:-
Manufacturing bombshell: AMD cancels 28nm APUs, starts from scratch at TSMC | ExtremeTech
On the plus side, this might force AMD to come out with some new ideas which might click.
At this moment, that's hoping against hope.
skeletor
Chosen of the Omnissiah
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
^^ Krishna + Wichita - the successors to Brazos + Ontario have been cancelled. And there is a reason they were cancelled. The successors to Krishna and Wichita were already lined up for ~Q4 2012/Q1 2013 and if Krishna and Wichita were launched in Q2 2012, why would OEMs invest in a product which is only there to last ~6 months?
Wise decision. Intel doesn't have a better alternative to Brazos/Ontario.
Trinity is NOT cancelled, and that's what I care about.
^^ Krishna + Wichita - the successors to Brazos + Ontario have been cancelled. And there is a reason they were cancelled. The successors to Krishna and Wichita were already lined up for ~Q4 2012/Q1 2013 and if Krishna and Wichita were launched in Q2 2012, why would OEMs invest in a product which is only there to last ~6 months?
Wise decision. Intel doesn't have a better alternative to Brazos/Ontario.
Trinity is NOT cancelled, and that's what I care about.
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
AMD Not Competing with Intel Anymore, Goes Mobile - Softpedia
AMD Not Competing with Intel Anymore, Goes Mobile - Softpedia
tkin
Back to school!!
sukesh1090
Adam young
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
this is very very bad news.this will now again give a call to Intel's monopoly.WTF AMD,they could have improved what they have now rather starting from ground in mobile market.it will again take hell lot of time for AMD to build a castle in mobile market.so they could had better stick with PC and improved processors performance and all.
this is very very bad news.this will now again give a call to Intel's monopoly.WTF AMD,they could have improved what they have now rather starting from ground in mobile market.it will again take hell lot of time for AMD to build a castle in mobile market.so they could had better stick with PC and improved processors performance and all.
OP
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
Another link.
AMD To Give Up Competing With Intel On x86? CPU Prices Already Shooting Up | techPowerUp
Not very clear what they are up to.
I couldn't get the point why they need to topple Intel, performance wise, apart from improving image and perception about the company. They have successfully shown in graphics card segment that high performing mid-range GPUs are the order of the day. They are behind nVIDIA for quite some time now as far as the fastest single GPU goes (except for the period when Fermi was delayed) and that have neither affected their image nor their bottom line. What most of the desktop users need is good mid-range products. Their 990FX chipset is already comparable with X79 in terms of no. of PCI-e lane support, SATA 6gbps, RAM speed support etc. Then there's nothing as such to compete against their APUs. They have arguably the best CPUs for netbook segment, so venturing in Mobile market seems logical. But there's no point leaving the PC market altogether. They should concentrate on providing better mid-range products at a good price in desktop segment rather than chasing Intel.
And yeah, they need a better marketing team for sure. They might have forgotten how they had countered IA64 with X86, X64 back in their heydays.
Another link.
AMD To Give Up Competing With Intel On x86? CPU Prices Already Shooting Up | techPowerUp
Not very clear what they are up to.
I couldn't get the point why they need to topple Intel, performance wise, apart from improving image and perception about the company. They have successfully shown in graphics card segment that high performing mid-range GPUs are the order of the day. They are behind nVIDIA for quite some time now as far as the fastest single GPU goes (except for the period when Fermi was delayed) and that have neither affected their image nor their bottom line. What most of the desktop users need is good mid-range products. Their 990FX chipset is already comparable with X79 in terms of no. of PCI-e lane support, SATA 6gbps, RAM speed support etc. Then there's nothing as such to compete against their APUs. They have arguably the best CPUs for netbook segment, so venturing in Mobile market seems logical. But there's no point leaving the PC market altogether. They should concentrate on providing better mid-range products at a good price in desktop segment rather than chasing Intel.
And yeah, they need a better marketing team for sure. They might have forgotten how they had countered IA64 with X86, X64 back in their heydays.
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sukesh1090
Adam young
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
^^if they doesn't concentrate on processors then what they will add to fusion to make it competitive?they need to work on their processors then only they will able to add good cpu part to APU or else the fusion will also go to dustbin.
^^if they doesn't concentrate on processors then what they will add to fusion to make it competitive?they need to work on their processors then only they will able to add good cpu part to APU or else the fusion will also go to dustbin.
skeletor
Chosen of the Omnissiah
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
Low-end is where the money is. Get these into OEMs and you earn money. Enthusiasts like us are only 5%.
Which processors are currently earning money for them? Llano and Brazos. Llano is selling good everywhere except India.
I don't even think they are in a very poor positition. 8-core Phenom II on 32nm would have steamrolled i7-2600k in multithreading. If they stop making wrong choices, they'd be fine to go.
Low-end is where the money is. Get these into OEMs and you earn money. Enthusiasts like us are only 5%.
Which processors are currently earning money for them? Llano and Brazos. Llano is selling good everywhere except India.
I don't even think they are in a very poor positition. 8-core Phenom II on 32nm would have steamrolled i7-2600k in multithreading. If they stop making wrong choices, they'd be fine to go.
sukesh1090
Adam young
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
^^yes but for a good apu they need a good processor and graphics card then only they will be able to fuse them to get a good APU.if they stop developing good processors then they have to add old processors for their APUs which won't be able to give performance improvement which is required .
and problem with AMD is not only their processors performance but also dealers mis consumptions and the wrong information they give to the consumers.when people are biased towards intel then oem people have to add intel products to sell their products so they will prefer core i processors rather than llano which will give the same or a bit more graphical performance at the same cost.
^^yes but for a good apu they need a good processor and graphics card then only they will be able to fuse them to get a good APU.if they stop developing good processors then they have to add old processors for their APUs which won't be able to give performance improvement which is required .
and problem with AMD is not only their processors performance but also dealers mis consumptions and the wrong information they give to the consumers.when people are biased towards intel then oem people have to add intel products to sell their products so they will prefer core i processors rather than llano which will give the same or a bit more graphical performance at the same cost.
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sukesh1090
Adam young
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
but still there is hope for them.for me BD was not completely a disaster it just need some tweaks though they may need to start from the foundation to make those tweaks but if they make it then they will able to go head to head with Intel, it also improves the performance of all those things which are based on BD like PD,TRINITY.....but if they fail then even their future products which were based on BD Will also be a epic fail.so we cannot hope that PD and trinity is going to be good untill and unless they will fix BD.
but still there is hope for them.for me BD was not completely a disaster it just need some tweaks though they may need to start from the foundation to make those tweaks but if they make it then they will able to go head to head with Intel, it also improves the performance of all those things which are based on BD like PD,TRINITY.....but if they fail then even their future products which were based on BD Will also be a epic fail.so we cannot hope that PD and trinity is going to be good untill and unless they will fix BD.
OP
re: AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion
I remember the original Phenom also get a bad press, even Phenom II with TLB bug and all was heading for a mini-disaster. AMD has bounced back from that situation. BD is fixable IMO. take a look at this article from HardOCP:-
HARDOCP - 10 Questions for AMD's Bulldozer - HardOCP Readers Ask AMD Bulldozer Questions
Thinking about re-opening the old BD thread?
I remember the original Phenom also get a bad press, even Phenom II with TLB bug and all was heading for a mini-disaster. AMD has bounced back from that situation. BD is fixable IMO. take a look at this article from HardOCP:-
HARDOCP - 10 Questions for AMD's Bulldozer - HardOCP Readers Ask AMD Bulldozer Questions
Concentrate on Fusion. That's it.
Above discussion is a bit off-topic. Thread is about Trinity.
Thinking about re-opening the old BD thread?