70k Gaming rig with HD TV monitor

anirbandd

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why why why??

after all, if OP is investing 70K into the PC, he should be able to buy a CM Hyper 212 @ ~2.2K.

The 212Evo is extremely VFM.

also beats the electricity bill generated by the ceiling fan :p
 
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You're right anirbandd, I don't want to take any chances with this PC so putting in the cooler seems the best thing to do. I can always get the xbox controller later.

As far as waiting for the new graphics card goes, I'll wait till end of June and see... if they are within budget, then I'll get them, otherwise I'll stick to 7970
 

anirbandd

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thats a great good idea..

wait till june and in the mean time see if you can add a few extra Ks to 28K [meant for the 7970]. if you can go upto 30K or so, you can get a really good Nvidia 7xx card. ;)
 
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In the meantime, can anyone suggest a good 32 inch LCD tv? I want to avoid LED as it will be out of my budget (30k).
 

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Let me clarify a couple of things 1st:-

Multi-GPU: If you're planning for Multi-GPU setup then you have to do it within couple of months, not in couple of years. Suppose a person having a HD 6970, say 1.5 years old. Tell me, is he going to buy another one now for Crossfire or will go for a HD 7950 at the same price point and sells of his older card? But if you wanna go for multi-gpu, then opt for nVidia cards like GTX 660 SLI as currently AMD has some driver issues with their 7000 series multi-gpu setup.

Processor: There is no doubt that Intel i5 3550 or 3570 (non-K) versions do have slightly better performance than FX-8350 in most of the games released within 1 year but recent games like Far Cry 3, Hitman Absolution, Tomb Raider and specially Crysis 3...all are very much optimized for Multi-Core CPU. In Crysis 3, which can use 8 to 12 Cores efficiently, FX-8350 performs almost same as i7 3770K, priced at 20K. In fact games are getting more and more multi-core optimized and most of the upcoming games will be able to take benefit of 8 Cores of FX-8350.

Total System Value: Here by spending (11.6K + 7.2K) = 18.8K. you are getting a superior quality components compared to a i5 3570 + B75/H77 motherboard combination. The 970A-EVO R2.0 offers far better build quality and feature set than H77 board available within 8K.

Overclocking Although you have said no for Overclocking, believe me, it is damn easy with AMD Black Edition Processors and there are plenty of official Windows based tools (Like AMD Overdrive, AMD Fusion, Asus AI Tweaker) are available for it. You don't even need to touch the BIOS for it. Just go through some guides and within 1 month you can start playing around with your Processor. In case of Intel, for a overclocking setup (K series CPU and Z77 Motherboard), you have to spend around 23K for just a good CPU and Motherboard.
 

anirbandd

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Let me clarify a couple of things 1st:-

Multi-GPU: If you're planning for Multi-GPU setup then you have to do it within couple of months, not in couple of years. Suppose a person having a HD 6970, say 1.5 years old. Tell me, is he going to buy another one now for Crossfire or will go for a HD 7950 at the same price point and sells of his older card? But if you wanna go for multi-gpu, then opt for nVidia cards like GTX 660 SLI as currently AMD has some driver issues with their 7000 series multi-gpu setup.

Processor: There is no doubt that Intel i5 3550 or 3570 (non-K) versions do have slightly better performance than FX-8350 in most of the games released within 1 year but recent games like Far Cry 3, Hitman Absolution, Tomb Raider and specially Crysis 3...all are very much optimized for Multi-Core CPU. In Crysis 3, which can use 8 to 12 Cores efficiently, FX-8350 performs almost same as i7 3770K, priced at 20K. In fact games are getting more and more multi-core optimized and most of the upcoming games will be able to take benefit of 8 Cores of FX-8350.

Total System Value: Here by spending (11.6K + 7.2K) = 18.8K. you are getting a superior quality components compared to a i5 3570 + B75/H77 motherboard combination. The 970A-EVO R2.0 offers far better build quality and feature set than H77 board available within 8K.

Overclocking Although you have said no for Overclocking, believe me, it is damn easy with AMD Black Edition Processors and there are plenty of official Windows based tools (Like AMD Overdrive, AMD Fusion, Asus AI Tweaker) are available for it. You don't even need to touch the BIOS for it. Just go through some guides and within 1 month you can start playing around with your Processor. In case of Intel, for a overclocking setup (K series CPU and Z77 Motherboard), you have to spend around 23K for just a good CPU and Motherboard.

^absolutely true..

and OC'ing extends component value. you will be able to use it for a longer time.


for ex.: you can change your GPU to get a better one, which, say, is being bottlenecked by your CPU. just OC your CPU a little and you are done. No need of new CPU. :)
 
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So you guys are suggesting that I go back to Cilus' original rig because it is more future-proof. I can't help but notice that a cooler wasn't included in the suggested config, is the 212 Evo a necessity? Or does the AMD FX 8350 + Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 not require a dedicated cooler?

I think I'm going to a single GPU setup.

Still waiting for someone to share their experience with gaming on an HD TV. Anybody?
 
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Cilus

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The stock cooler of AMD FX-8350 is pretty good for the default speed 4 GHz, in fact 4.2 GHz to 4.3 GHz overclocking is also possible with it. If you're not overclocking right now, no need for a separate cooler. Buy a good one when you are ready for overclocking.
 

anirbandd

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if you wont EVER go for dual card, then get a 650W PSU.

So you guys are suggesting that I go back to Cilus' original rig because it is more future-proof. I can't help but notice that a cooler wasn't included in the suggested config, is the 212 Evo a necessity? Or does the AMD FX 8350 + Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 not require a dedicated cooler?

I think I'm going to a single GPU setup.

Still waiting for someone to share their experience with gaming on an HD TV. Anybody?

As Cilus said, stay on the stock cooler for now and upgrade when you want to OC.

i played on our FHD TV for a few hours after getting my GPU.
the experience was very good overall.
gaming on a 46" is sure enjoyable. :D
 
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Thanks Cilus and anir. Will be going for Cilus' suggested rig for now. I'll also wait till end of June to see if the new series from Nvidia is worth investing in.

This is what I'm going for -

AMD FX 8350 4GHz @ 11.6K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 7.2K
GSkill RipjawX F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL 8GB X 1 1600 MHz CL10 @ 4K
Toshiba/ WB Blue 1TB 7200 RPM HDD @ 3.8K
Corsair 400R Cabinet @ 4.5K
Seasonic s12 620w @rs 4800
Sapphire HD 7970 Dual Fan Version @ 28K
Asus 24X SATA Black DVD R/W @ 1K
Logitech K270 Wireless keyboard - 1085
Logitech M950 wireless mouse - 5.9k

Total - 71,885

Will get an X-box controller and wireless headset sometime later.


Also,
Sorry to be a little off-topic, but I've been recieving PMs and for the life of me I can't reply to them. Is there some forum rule that I'm missing?

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Ashish, could you suggest a good 620W PSU for this build?
 
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Seeing as I won't be opting for a dual card set up, do I still need to get the SS750?
500 W is sufficient for running FX 8350 with HD7950 with mild overclock. But, getting a 600 W PSU will provide enough power for overclocking CPU as well as the GPU to a much higher extend and you'll also be able to use the same PSU in future with a more powerful(consuming) part.
 
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Hi guys, just noticed this on Flipkart -

Logitech Cordless Performance Mouse M950 - Logitech: Flipkart.com

Do you think I should get it now, or will it be better to purchase the entire rig together in the hopes of getting a discount?

Alternatively, if someone knows of a better wireless mouse that can be used for gaming, please feel free to suggest :)
 

anirbandd

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Thanks Cilus and anir. Will be going for Cilus' suggested rig for now. I'll also wait till end of June to see if the new series from Nvidia is worth investing in.

This is what I'm going for -

AMD FX 8350 4GHz @ 11.6K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 7.2K
GSkill RipjawX F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL 8GB X 1 1600 MHz CL10 @ 4K
Toshiba/ WB Blue 1TB 7200 RPM HDD @ 3.8K
Corsair 400R Cabinet @ 4.5K
Seasonic s12 620w @rs 4800
Sapphire HD 7970 Dual Fan Version @ 28K
Asus 24X SATA Black DVD R/W @ 1K
Logitech K270 Wireless keyboard - 1085
Logitech M950 wireless mouse - 5.9k

Total - 71,885

Will get an X-box controller and wireless headset sometime later.


Also,
Sorry to be a little off-topic, but I've been recieving PMs and for the life of me I can't reply to them. Is there some forum rule that I'm missing?

Edit:

Ashish, could you suggest a good 620W PSU for this build?

good setup. balanced rig. :)

the PMs could be from guests [non-members]. i've had a few myself. as there is no a/c, you cant reply. ;)
 
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Just saw that the GTX 7 series has been released, what do you guys think about the GTX 770? I think it's about 4k more than the 7970,is the increased price worth the increased performance?

Do I need it in my rig? I'll ofcourse need to made adjustments to accommodate the extra 4k.
 

Cilus

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No, it is on the same league of GTX 7970 when overclocked to 1 GHz. Sapphire HD 7970 Dual Fan version, which I have suggested to you, is very good for overclocking and you can increase the clock speed close to 1000 MHz with ease and get the performance of a HD 7970 GHz edition. In that case, the performance will be almost same with a GTX 770.
 
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Thanks Cilus.

On another note, I'll need a decent wireless mouse for gaming and only the Logitech M950 seems to fit the bill. What's your take on it?
 
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