20k Budget - One Final Thought !

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prasad_den

Padawan
@Gourav: you mentioned somewhere in the above posts that you do not need a computer, only a phone... In that case, why are spending 20K in the first place... only for looks..?? You can a classy looking phone for much less than that.. you need cam and music too, still you get a phone for something less.. IMHO, if you are spending 20K on a phone, get something that has all the best features in it.. If you are gonna use your mobile only for calls, an occasional snap and some music, get one of the SE phones for much lesser and save some bucks... Ultimately, its your decision (and seems that you have made one before starting this thread itself.. ;) )
 
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iatb.gourav

iatb.gourav

Ready To Rule !!!
Frankly speaking dude. You always start threads to know abt a phone but from your posts it seems that you have all information abt that device coz u never agree with anyone's suggestions.
I always read the reviews first. And then I ask you all to check if I am not making a mistake at my choice!

And I have a sneaking suspicion that at the end of the day you'll buy the K850i, even if the people voting for N82 against K850i are 10:1.
Hmmm .... you have a good "suspicious" power then.

Let me tell something now.
My last 4 phones were: nokia 6600 > moto V3 > N72 > moto Z3 !!
And from my experience, I always got bored of the Nokia phones in 3-4 months. keep in mind that the models I used were bestsellers at a time!
So, I am afraid this might happen with n82 too.
And I don't need a "smart-phone". I need a "multimedia phone".
That makes me incline toward K850i.
And in addition, theres the rock like keypad of N82 and its average looks.
 

Third Eye

gooby pls
lol,You will never get bored of N82 because of better games and wide range of applications.K850 has semi touch screen, so it can create problems and the keypad:eek::evil:.Search for K850 nightmare in google:D.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
A mobile phone isn't about games & applications only, it's about ease of use. Why do U think that despite of having a pathetic software iphone is selling? Cos it does what it does properly. It makes phone calls, email in a very good manner.

but that's it, it doesn't do anything else.
 

max_demon

IM AS MAD AS HELL!!
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*www.cellphonedigest.net/images/Sony%20Ericsson%20K850i.JPG
*www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/13/sony_ericsson_k850_zoom1.jpg
*www.knowyourmobile.com/siteimage/scale/800/600/12581.png

the SE phones are very Easy to use , i prefer my keypad for sending sms then any <other brands > in the market . the file manager is simple and all sony device easily connect M2 and Memory Stick Pro Duo .
 
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krates

Be CoOl rAp RuLeZ !!!
Well i wanted to commit that symbian themes are just ****. and sony ericsson themes are quite cool

but i can sacrifice those features for N82 then K850I

i personally think that K850I is priced high if it has been priced at 17k then it was the best phone but when

N95 8gig ( 28000 rs ) is not comparable with N82( 20000 rs) then you must think yourself

fonearena.com have wrote down words that

A 5 Mega Pixel N-Series Star from Nokia which has almost all the features of the N95 8GB but has 1 more great feature - Camera with a Xenon Flash
 

praka123

left this forum longback
well @krates: your price quotes are really high.I saw in ebay and all new n95 is costing around 23K while n82 for 18.5K. :|
 

heartripple

In the zone
@ nikeel : Lot of people are talking about N82's Key-pad. Even I was worried initially, but, now after 12 days of use, I could find the keypad quite convenient, even though the keys are smaller but the space between the keys is quite spacious, which helps to handle it easily. The only thing is one has to get used to it at least for a couple of days. Moreover the build of keypad is very strong which according to me will not get loosen for years.... :)



no doubt for that keypad is small but space between 2 keys are well enough to use it without any problems.:D

AFAIK, W960i does not have GPS.
Moreover, it only has a 3.2 MP camera. It does not even have EDGE support.

Plus its priced in the 25k-26k region !!!!

I fail to understand how that can be better than N82.


no value for money
u dont have good camera and u hwould have to pay 25k for such a phone flip the thoght of w960:D:D:D:D:D
 
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rohan_mhtr

Most wanted
A mobile phone isn't about games & applications only, it's about ease of use. Why do U think that despite of having a pathetic software iphone is selling? Cos it does what it does properly. It makes phone calls, email in a very good manner.

but that's it, it doesn't do anything else.
Then why spend 20k for a mobile , if you want to make only calls then you can get yourself nokia 1110 or if you want something from SE then get j110 .
 

yogi7272

Cyborg Agent
hey guys, here are my two cents ..

about k850i - i called it failed product cos it is centered around its 5mp cam which is not substancially better than the competition ..which infact is inferiour to nokia , lg and samsung camera phones.. and to top it all, n82 is not even a dedicated camera phone .. i have not used it at all ..but when sony releases a cybershot k series phone then it has to beat the competition fair & square , which is not the case.. k790i and k750i were leaders in their time.. then , i read a lot about various probs on esato forum.. u can do it urself ..just check that forum ..

@n82 - some people say it has useless features as gps and wifi .. i used a prog called nokia sports tracker which is based on gps ..fantastic app ..wifi is very useful too ..tv out lets u connect ur phone to large tvs ..like i do on my 29" one ..even play games and can watch those fantastic vga videos recorded with n82 on tv .. its xenon flash is stronger than k850i xenon flash .. its very fast phone with 92 mb usable ram after bootup ..camera is top notch. sound through 3.5 mm jack with creative ep 630 is fantastic .. and not a single person who have seen my silver n82 has termed it "ugly" as most people would make to believe u .. i can go about on and on about n82 ..and there are a heck lot of apps and games on symbian ..not just smart movie etc .. those who have used symbian wont comment like this ..d pad and soft keys of n82 is good to operate ..as well as its keypad ..not a prob at all ...use it and then comment .. n82 is one super all round phone ..the best one till now ..

again its upto u .. just posted this so other can make their choice ..
 
So it’s that time of year again..

After close to 1.5 years on my trusty Nokia N73 , Its time for n82

Here’s the rap sheet - *developer.nokia.com/devices/N82

For the full flash demo with all the bling, go here
*www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n82

So here we go all about n82 !~!
First looks: To describe it in very concise terms, N82 = N95 - slider +
candybar + Xenon flash + light meter + auto tilt + user data protection. Let me
elaborate further.

The N82 has the same candybar form factor as the N73, but with the added
powerful features of the N95. Speakers are located along the right side,
instead of the top and bottom, and the data cable/charger socket have moved to
the left side. The phone uses microUSB and 3.5" audio jacks, instead of
the old proprietary PopPort interface, so this means you can connect any
headphones to it.

Headphone jack is moved to the top, so it can be easily slipped into your shirt
pocket while listening to music. The handsfree supplied unfortunately
is the typical basic one with no music controls. Why couldn’t they supply
the same kind as is given with the music edition phones??
Aesthetics/ergonomics: What’s not to like! Beautiful polished steel look
(not actual steel, like the N91 was). It attracts fingerprints, sure, but I
love the silver gleam. the thin keys are actually fine to type on. The last time such keys were seen were on the N91-and they were hard to press. These ones have the right balance of not being too spongy (like the N73 original) or too hard. They ‘click’ just right, and are easy to type on. However, the pencil key ( a staple on s60 devices) has been removed. The + key now has the options for dictionary etc, and this may take some getting used to. What’s worse- you can’t do multiple select the way you could on earlier phones by using pencil key + arrow keys.

There’s also a dedicated ‘multimedia’ key that works
differently than the older ones. It displays a rolling set of tiles; each tile
showing in order-recent music, videos, quick access to contacts, last photo
taken and so on.

Firmware: As the complexity of Nseries starts to rival computers, bugs
do come out and Nokia has started offering firmware updates that can be
performed at home without having to take the phone to a shop. My base firmware was 10.0.0.46. After reading up on the net, I found that a newer version of the firmware fixes several bugs and makes performance improvements, so I upgraded and now I have 11.0.117. Chances are if you buy this phone later, it may already be updated; you can use Nokia Software Updater (google it) to check the latest version. One nice feature is ‘user data protection’-this means that firmware updates will not wipe the phone memory as they did with earlier phones; your applications, contacts, messages etc remain intact after flashing the firmware.

Responsiveness:

This has to be the Core 2 Duo of
mobile phones. It uses a dual core ARM processor and a dedicated OpenGL
graphics chip. The result? Stunningly fast performance and responsiveness.
Despite all the features, it boots up in less than 15 seconds, and the camera
instantly starts when you open the shutter. The last word- you can play a Symbian port of the old 3D game Quake 1 on this with full graphics and effects !!!



Operating system/look and feel:


The phone, like the N95, uses S60 3rd edition Feature Pack 1. As before-I’ll just highlight the new features here over the base S60 3rd edition OS.

eorganized menus-

Earlier one had to go to separate places to change the theme, ringtone, wallpaper etc. Now they’re all grouped together under a ‘personalization’ menu in settings (though you can use the old way also). A few other menus have also been grouped together/reorganized.

Animated icons- Icons in the menu animate (if you can call sliding towards you, that)
Running app indicator-

The N82 has 120 MB of RAM, which is huge for a mobile device. You can have several apps running, and now a small blue swirl is shown in the menu to indicate that an app is already running in the background.

Timed Bluetooth visibility-

You can specify for how long your phone should appear visible via Bluetooth, after which it reverts to ‘hidden’ mode.

Gallery-
You can save images directly to contacts as their thumbnails from the gallery now.


Unified browser:

In the previous OS, there were 2 browsers ‘Web’ and ‘Services’ for full web and wap, respectively. These have been merged into a single one that recognizes both types of content. It now can store form passwords for websites as well, saving you the hassle of typing it out. Also, since it has wifi support, you can surf the net using wifi instead of your GPRS connection.

Keypad autolock, and repeating alarms!!-

Finally, finally they ported over these features from lower end S40 phones! Why Nokia chose not to have this ability before, I wonder! Caveat: The autolock only works when the phone is in the standby screen, not otherwise. The alarm clock lets you specify working days, and can be set to ring only on those days if needed. Also you can set multiple alarms.

Search:

Imagine having the equivalent of Google Desktop Search on your phone. This is the most awesome application on the phone that I’ve found. It can be invoked from the Active Standby screen, and you can search anything on your phone-be it contacts, messages, emails, calendar entries, by just typing it. No more hunting through menus. You can also search the web, MSN and yahoo are the default search providers (wonder why no Google).



Autotilt:

Like the N95 and the iPhone, this phone also has an accelerometer that detects its orientation. Unlike the N95, it does support auto tilt. Tilting the phone to the left in any mode other than the standby screen causes the display to switch to horizontal/landscape mode. However you need to hold it exactly perpendicular to the ground to work correctly, and it only works if you flip it to the left. You can turn off this behavior too, if you like.

Camera:

According to a web review, the N82 wins hands
down over other 5mp class camera phones in terms of image quality. I totally
agree. The phone also has a lightmeter that vastly improves photo quality under low light conditions. As I mentioned before, the camera starts up immediately on opening the shutter (there’s a small switch for the lens cover on the back). The camera now has a viewfinder grid and extra setting for sharpness, in addition to everything else. Image quality lives upto the hype; pity I don’t have examples. A future firmware update promises to add geotagging support via GPS for photos; this means you can embed position information into the photo, so that the location can be indicated on google maps.

SE phones....you cant compare symbian phones to SE !!
 
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heartripple

In the zone
hey guys, here are my two cents ..

about k850i - i called it failed product cos it is centered around its 5mp cam which is not substancially better than the competition ..which infact is inferiour to nokia , lg and samsung camera phones.. and to top it all, n82 is not even a dedicated camera phone .. i have not used it at all ..but when sony releases a cybershot k series phone then it has to beat the competition fair & square , which is not the case.. k790i and k750i were leaders in their time.. then , i read a lot about various probs on esato forum.. u can do it urself ..just check that forum ..

@n82 - some people say it has useless features as gps and wifi .. i used a prog called nokia sports tracker which is based on gps ..fantastic app ..wifi is very useful too ..tv out lets u connect ur phone to large tvs ..like i do on my 29" one ..even play games and can watch those fantastic vga videos recorded with n82 on tv .. its xenon flash is stronger than k850i xenon flash .. its very fast phone with 92 mb usable ram after bootup ..camera is top notch. sound through 3.5 mm jack with creative ep 630 is fantastic .. and not a single person who have seen my silver n82 has termed it "ugly" as most people would make to believe u .. i can go about on and on about n82 ..and there are a heck lot of apps and games on symbian ..not just smart movie etc .. those who have used symbian wont comment like this ..d pad and soft keys of n82 is good to operate ..as well as its keypad ..not a prob at all ...use it and then comment .. n82 is one super all round phone ..best till now ..

again its upto u .. just posted this so other can make their choice ..


off topic
which games u r playing on it

i want fifa for this phone

on the topic this phone has grapics processor and is a good feature too.

see wat if u r buying ur new pc and it has inbuilt wifi.
in that case wifi would be very useful features for the phone.

so i m saying that go with n-82
 
Nokia N82 v Sony Ericsson K850i

Below are a few sample pics, taken on the Nokia N82 and the Sony Ericsson K850i. Both phones have a 5.0 megapixel camera, with auto focus, and a Xenon flash. The Nokia Also has a Carl Zeiss Lens. Click on the images to see them in full size. Which do you prefer?

This picture was taken on macro mode:
Nokia N82
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SE K850i
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The next two pictures are taken on standard setting:
Nokia N82
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SE K850i
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Nokia N82
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SE K850i
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I think the results are clear enough. Chalk another one up for the Nokia N82.

Google :

Two devices come to mind instantly - Sony Ericsson K850i and Nokia N82. While the former is certainly easier to carry around (it's smaller), the latter is a smartphone and we all know that opens a whole new world of 3rd-party apps. Still, some people may find all they need in the Sony Ericsson's model. Anyway, we have tons of photos of the two devices standing side by side which will hopefully help choose the device you like better…
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k11.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k2.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k3.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k4.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k5.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k6.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k7.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k8.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k9.jpg
 
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iatb.gourav

iatb.gourav

Ready To Rule !!!
Okey guys !
After going through your opinions I am deciding for n82.

Thanks for your opinion guys.

Any idea, how much N82 black would cost here in Siliguri (West Bengal) ?
 
Which is worth buying,sony ericsson k850i or nokia n82?


*answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071125192533AA7NSH8&show=7

Compared to the Sony Ericsson K850i, we think the Nokia N82 is overall a better choice, even if it doesn't support AT&T's HSDPA network (compare specifications). Along with a top-performing 5-megapixel camera, the N82 also comes with Nokia's Mini Map browser, Wi-Fi connectivity and broad file format support for music and video (2GB memory card included). The Nokia N82 also boasts a GPS radio and Nokia Maps. An unlocked Nokia N82 is currently selling for $450 ($350 with a two-year T-Mobile contract).

The Sony Ericsson K850i on the other hand, could be a perfect match for those who require AT&T HSDPA support. Additionally, it's got a top-performing 5-megapixel camera with convenient auto-settings, and a straightforward interface for features such as calling, text messaging and music player (256MB memory card included). The K850i also supports the Opera Mini browser (optional via download), which will provide a decent experience for light mobile Internet browsing (news etc.).

more........more........

Samsung G800, Nokia N82, SE K850i Cameras Compared

The review is an updated comparative analysis of cameras integrated into the top-class products of the large manufacturers’ portfolios. We've already released this sort of articles spotlighting deathmatches between various 5 Mpix handsets, but now we’re going to review a few devices positioned as the best photo-oriented solutions on the market. The matter concerns Samsung G800, Nokia N82 and SonyEricsson K850i. It’s these cameraphones that are most often brought up for discussion, each being the key device for the manufacturer in the year 2008. Besides, they have much in common regarding their cameras.


Let's dwell on camera implementation features in these devices and begin with Samsung G800. The camera module utilized by G800 isn't something extraordinary, yet it puts the quality in the first place. It lacks dedicated controls such as a camera launch button or a mode switching slider found with K850i. There is no gallery button like with N82 either, but the available features are reasonably located and perfectly implemented. The camera button is middle-sized, both smooth and tight to push and very comfortable in general. The volume control rocker button is found nearby, also functioning as the zoom button. Its location is almost ideal, which contributes a lot to the high ergonomics of the G800 camera. In contrast to K850i the keypad doesn't feature any important camera function symbols placed on the keypad buttons - though that doesn't mean that the keys can't be used as shortcuts to those. For instance, the 1 key switches the shooting mode, the * key turns on the flashlight, etc. The thing we didn’t like in hardware implementation of the G800 camera is a protective cover. It sticks out above the surface for about 2 mm (the thickness is 18.5 at that spot) which is even more than with N95. The opening mechanism is too tight, and no finger rest is provided for - in some cases it's the sliding mechanism that opens instead of the cover, the situation is similar to the problem observed with the K770i model which suffers from a similar problem. The viewfinder of G800 beats the N82 model easily, let alone the K850i. The software algorithm used for transmitting the picture from camera to the screen is far above than just good, the powerful Quallcomm platform doing its best. Maybe Samsung lose a tiny bit of their authority by engaging a third party in supplying them with hardware, but this has a large positive effect on performance capabilities.

Hardware:

Let's dwell on camera implementation features with these devices and begin with Samsung G800. The camera module utilized by G800 isn't something extraordinary, yet it has the quality in the first place. It lacks dedicated controls such as a camera launch button or a mode switching slider found with K850i. There is no gallery button like with N82 either, but the available features are reasonably located and perfectly implemented. The camera button is middle-sized, both smooth and tight to push and very comfortable in general. The volume control rocker button is found nearby, also functioning as the zoom button. Its location is almost ideal, which contributes a lot to the high ergonomics of the G800 camera. In contrast to K850i the keypad doesn't feature any important camera function symbols placed on the keypad buttons - though that doesn't mean that the keys can't be used as shortcuts to those. For instance, the 1 key switches the shooting mode, the * key turns on the flashlight, etc. The thing we didn’t like in hardware implementation of the G800 camera is a protective cover. It sticks out above the surface for about 2 mm (the thickness is 18.5 at that spot) which is even more than with N95. The opening mechanism is too tight, and no finger rest is provided for - in some cases it's the sliding mechanism that opens instead of the cover, the situation is similar to the problem observed with the K770i model which suffers from a similar problem. The viewfinder of G800 beats the N82 model easily, let alone the K850i. The software algorithm used for transmitting the picture from camera to the screen is far above than just good, the powerful Quallcomm platform doing its best. Maybe Samsung lose a tiny bit of their authority by engaging a third party in supplying them with hardware, but this has a large positive effect on performance capabilities.

SonyEricsson K850i hasn't got a protective cover; the lens is covered with a glass which should be wiped prior to every shooting session. The xenon flashlight location isn’t smart enough, you can easily block it with your hand, but instead there is a camera mode switch button – the handset employs a three-position slide button switching between Photo, Video and Gallery. A separate camera button is also available though it doesn’t make a big difference, more likely being the cost of the active protective cover lack.

In our opinion Nokia N82 enjoys the most successful protective cover implementation. Its design is most optimal - the lens guard doesn't stick out so it can't be possibly damaged by scratching against the resting surface of the phone (unlike with N95).


Comparison

There is no need to comment on the photos, the quality speaks for itself. Below we give the examples of shots taken at maximal resolution. The xenon flashlight implementation is of utmost interest, for Nokia and Samsung devices can boast of the element for the first time.

Samsung G800 / Nokia N82 / SE K850i

Nighttime outdoors shots

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*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_029.jpg





The examples show obvious superiority of the Nokia N82 flashlight comparable to digital cameras in matters of power and principle of operation, which cannot be said about K850i and G800


Examples of shooting indoors





*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_028.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_031.jpg


*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_022.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_024.jpg




macro shooting samples

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At close-up shooting the Samsung G800 flashlight often gives a glare that is clearly visible on some pictures.


At daytime shooting K850i tends to unnatural color rendering and the contrast of its images on the whole leaves much to be desired.

*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_021.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_023.jpg


*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_029.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_032.jpg



Samsung G800 / Nokia N82 / SE K850i


Conclusion

So, the viewed photos give a perfectly clear idea of the camera potential of these top-class solutions in each manufacturer’s product range. In our subjective opinion Nokia N82 is a doubtless leader in all cases save zooming. K850i ranks last among these photo-oriented flagships. In spite of more than modest results as compared to the other companies’ solutions, K850i is the best SonyEricsson cameraphone at present.

One should mind that all three devices have various additional specifications which include pricing. K850i is the most affordable of the reviewed variants though its price differs from N82 and G800. Don’t you find this situation interesting? For the N82 smartphone with the best camera, a Wi-Fi module, GPS, a TV-output, high ergonomics and the best sales package (2 Gb flash card) such extra price looks justified, and the price policy of Sony Ericsson seems to have gone wrong.

Man, if you still find loads of reasons to buy k series...Search Google....atleast..the more you go..the more you will be confuse!


From my view..I will vote for n82 !!
 

dreamcatcher

Rockin g33k
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enough of beta softwares...chk these pics...taken by a k850 user unedited..

pics taken by me..unedited...

*flickr.com/photos/22704892@N04/
 

praka123

left this forum longback
I just visited themobilestore. I am tempted to get N82.here it costs Rs19400/- (outside it is 18900? I think).N73ME =Rs13000,K810i=10000.
 
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