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avichandana20000

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My room is 298 Sq ft not directly exposed to the sun throughout the day but after 3 p.m it hugs sunlight.

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I am looking for a 2 Ton INVERTER A.C.

I have shortlisted the following:

  1. LG BSA24IMA Inverter V Split AC (2 Ton, White)
  2. Daikin 1.8 Ton Inverter FTKV 60 NRV16 R-32 Split Air Conditioner
  3. Hitachi RAU023EUEA 2 Ton Inverter Split AC White
  4. Samsung AR24HV5NBWK 2 Ton Inverter Split AC

Can anyone please suggest which one to take with maximum features?

Does INVERTER AC come with Anti-dust , Anti -bacterial Filer?
 
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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
Thanks

R410a and R32 are equivalent?

Also i have planed around 60k.

How is Daikin FTKM or FTKP series?
 
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tamcoaircon

Right off the assembly line
I would like to suggest you to buy Mitsubishi AC. This AC considers as the best for your room. And also Mitsubishi AC is best in terms of quality and cost.
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Thanks

R410a and R32 are equivalent?

Also i have planed around 60k.

How is Daikin FTKM or FTKP series?

Daikin aint as good as Hitachi from Air Throw (BTU) to COP ( efficiency) to features to build quality to after sales support.

Mitsubishi after sales is as crap as it can be and is too overpriced for whatever it offers. Sharp sales & support is dwindling. Their Distributor Debsons has shut shop in Kolkata!
 
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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
EDIT: My room is 198 sq ft. So 1.5 Ton is the requirement

As per The Incinerator's suggestion I have zeroed to HITACHI Kashikoi 400i RAU019CVEA Model.

Just a comparison with DAIKIN model FTKM50PRV16

BRAND
HITACHI
DAIKIN
MODEL
400i RAU019CVEA
FTKM50PRV16
"COOLING CAPACITY (BTU/HR)
[[cooling output, measured in British thermal units (BTU) per hour]]"
18800
17100
"COOLING CAPACITY (WATTS)
1 BTU/Hr = 0.293 Watts"
5510
5000
POWER CONSUMPTION(WATTS)
1448
1445
"Cooling capacity (Watts) divided by Power (Watts)= EER or COP
[higher the EER number better is its efficiency ]"
3.81
3.46
AIRFLOW (INDOOR UNIT)

583 CFM
614 CFM
REFRIGERANT
410A
R32
PRICE
57000
41490
Extra
STABILIZER FREE
WARRANTY (IDU/ODU)
1/4
1/4

Now a simple calculation for monthly bill with following parameters:

1)12 hrs per day
2)Temp Set @ 27
3)4.65/- per UNIT (WBSEB)


Inverter A.C. USAGE HRS running(8hrs night+4 hrs midday) ACTUAL USAGE IN HRS/DAY
70% of total run 12 8.4

CONSUMPTION IN WATTS
1448 = 1.45 Units /hr

Actual Units of electricity consumed per day 12 (8.4 x 1.45)

Assuming electricity rate per unit(WBSEB) 4.65

Electricity consumed per day in price 57 (4.65 x 12)

Electricity consumed per month in price 1697


Now if i run it for 24 hrs then


Inverter A.C. USAGE HRS running(8hrs night+4 hrs midday) ACTUAL USAGE IN HRS/DAY
70% of total run 24 16.8

CONSUMPTION IN WATTS
1448 = 1.45 Units /hr

Actual Units of electricity consumed per day 24 (16.8 x 1.45)

Assuming electricity rate per unit(WBSEB) 4.65

Electricity consumed per day in price 113 (4.65 x 24)

Electricity consumed per month in price 3394


How am i going to get reduced bill with more usage?
 
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The Incinerator

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Now compare that 24 hour usage with a non inverter AC and look up at electricity bills of upwards of Rs 10K! at CESC rates!

Secondly the Daikin model you have mentioned costs Rs 46700 and you have to pay for installation and the ODU stand unlike the Hitachi,so add minimum Rs 1500 + Rs 900 for the ODU stand.Yes Hitachi supplies the ODU stand too!!!! So the Daikin actually costs Rs 49,100!!!! The Hitachi's actual street price is Rs 54,700. Online price is way over the top. We are looking at a flagship an AC beyond its time for Rs 54.7K here unlike the Daikin. Similar to that Daikin, a similar Hitachi ( ACE,Kampa) cost Rs 47K!!! Even a superior to daikin in every aspect ,the Kashikoi 200i at Rs 50K is way way better value in all respect over that Daikin.

If you buy a Daikin online, Daikin India won't honour the warranty or the istallation! So forget that Flipkart price!




We two have a thing in common at the moment ( which will become two if you buy the kashikoi 400i) the NZXT Phantom ..... I have the Red!
 
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Minion

Conversation Architect
Hitachi don't provide ODU stand as I have recently bought their ACE model. But yeah in case of Daikin you have to buy copper tubes which may cost you anywhere between 4k to 6k.

Avichandan a good news for you currently Hitachi is providing free installation on inverter and 5 star ACs.
 
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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
No way of buying online.

@ The Incinerator

1) Have u really really bargain for 54k price?

2) Does this Hitachi A.C. require stabilizer? In WBSEB Garia locality there is a little fluctuation after 10 p.m. in summer.

3) Kindly explain :
We are looking at a flagship an AC beyond its time





Hitachi AC Dealers in Kolkata (SOURCE: Hitachi AC Dealers in Kolkata | Showroom, Customer Service Center)

Hitachi AC Dealer – A. J. C. Bose Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Bengal Metal Works
Address : 155B, A. J. C. Bose Road, Near Hritick Nursing Home (Moulali Corossing).Pincode : 700014.

Phone Number : 9831207428

Hitachi AC Dealer – Chetla Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Himalaya Aircon
Address : 69/1A, Chetla Road.Pincode : 700027.

Phone Number : 9433065623, 2479

Hitachi AC Dealer – K.N.Sen Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Aswirbad Infra Co
Address : 10, Swinhoe Lane, Adjacent To 135 K.N.Sen Road.Pincode : 700042.

Phone Number : 9831207428

Hitachi AC Dealer – Park Street, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Eastern Carpets Pvt Ltd
Address : 29, Park Street.Pincode : 700016.

Phone Number : 22170025

Hitachi AC Dealer – Sector-Iii, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Chill-tech
Address : Fd-320, Sector-Iii, Salt Lake,.Pincode : 700106.

Phone Number : ( 033) 2359536

Hitachi AC Dealer – Sodepur, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Sathi Traders
Address : R. N. Avenue, Near Rathindra Cinema.

Phone Number : 2565-7579, 7679

Hitachi AC Kolkata Contact Number :

Phone Number : 2565-7579, 7679
Website : Social Innovation Business - Products, Services & Solution : Hitachi in India

Where is Technocity?



ASS:

1)Hitachi Split Air Conditioner - After Sales Service

2)Hitachi Split Air Conditioner (AC) Review, Price, Features And Models - Review Center

"After sales services matter a lot when we are investing in such kind of devices"



THE ONE AND ONLY IN KOLKATA

158, S P Mukherjee Road
West Bengal, India.
Pincode : 700026.

Phone Number : 033 40159515/40159525
Email-id : neosasrvcal2@gmail.com
Website : Social Innovation Business - Products, Services & Solution : Hitachi in India
Hours of Operation : Monday – Saturday 9AM – 5PM

Source: Hitachi Service Centre in Kolkata – Address, Phone Number | Customer Service
 
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The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Hitachi don't provide ODU stand as I have recently bought their ACE model. But yeah in case of Daikin you have to buy copper tubes which may cost you anywhere between 4k to 6k.

Avichandan a good news for you currently Hitachi is providing free installation on inverter and 5 star ACs.

You are a little uninformed here, you have bought an ACE but with Kashikoi the flagship Hitachi Inverter,ODU stands come free.

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No way of buying online.

@ The Incinerator

1) Have u really really bargain for 54k price?

2) Does this Hitachi A.C. require stabilizer? In WBSEB Garia locality there is a little fluctuation after 10 p.m. in summer.

3) Kindly explain :






Hitachi AC Dealers in Kolkata (SOURCE: Hitachi AC Dealers in Kolkata | Showroom, Customer Service Center)

Hitachi AC Dealer – A. J. C. Bose Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Bengal Metal Works
Address : 155B, A. J. C. Bose Road, Near Hritick Nursing Home (Moulali Corossing).Pincode : 700014.

Phone Number : 9831207428

Hitachi AC Dealer – Chetla Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Himalaya Aircon
Address : 69/1A, Chetla Road.Pincode : 700027.

Phone Number : 9433065623, 2479

Hitachi AC Dealer – K.N.Sen Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Aswirbad Infra Co
Address : 10, Swinhoe Lane, Adjacent To 135 K.N.Sen Road.Pincode : 700042.

Phone Number : 9831207428

Hitachi AC Dealer – Park Street, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Eastern Carpets Pvt Ltd
Address : 29, Park Street.Pincode : 700016.

Phone Number : 22170025

Hitachi AC Dealer – Sector-Iii, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Chill-tech
Address : Fd-320, Sector-Iii, Salt Lake,.Pincode : 700106.

Phone Number : ( 033) 2359536

Hitachi AC Dealer – Sodepur, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Sathi Traders
Address : R. N. Avenue, Near Rathindra Cinema.

Phone Number : 2565-7579, 7679

Hitachi AC Kolkata Contact Number :

Phone Number : 2565-7579, 7679
Website : Social Innovation Business - Products, Services & Solution : Hitachi in India

Where is Technocity?



ASS:

1)Hitachi Split Air Conditioner - After Sales Service

2)Hitachi Split Air Conditioner (AC) Review, Price, Features And Models - Review Center

"After sales services matter a lot when we are investing in such kind of devices"



THE ONE AND ONLY IN KOLKATA

158, S P Mukherjee Road
West Bengal, India.
Pincode : 700026.

Phone Number : 033 40159515/40159525
Email-id : neosasrvcal2@gmail.com
Website : Social Innovation Business - Products, Services & Solution : Hitachi in India
Hours of Operation : Monday – Saturday 9AM – 5PM

Source: Hitachi Service Centre in Kolkata – Address, Phone Number | Customer Service

You have to really bargain very hard for 54700 or the next best price is 55000 not a penny more. Technocity is near Minto Park. If there is a voltage fluctuation make sure very sure that you buy a very good stabilizers ,a trip meter and a starter motor assembly all from Crabtree.

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No way of buying online.

@ The Incinerator

1) Have u really really bargain for 54k price?

2) Does this Hitachi A.C. require stabilizer? In WBSEB Garia locality there is a little fluctuation after 10 p.m. in summer.

3) Kindly explain :






Hitachi AC Dealers in Kolkata (SOURCE: Hitachi AC Dealers in Kolkata | Showroom, Customer Service Center)

Hitachi AC Dealer – A. J. C. Bose Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Bengal Metal Works
Address : 155B, A. J. C. Bose Road, Near Hritick Nursing Home (Moulali Corossing).Pincode : 700014.

Phone Number : 9831207428

Hitachi AC Dealer – Chetla Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Himalaya Aircon
Address : 69/1A, Chetla Road.Pincode : 700027.

Phone Number : 9433065623, 2479

Hitachi AC Dealer – K.N.Sen Road, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Aswirbad Infra Co
Address : 10, Swinhoe Lane, Adjacent To 135 K.N.Sen Road.Pincode : 700042.

Phone Number : 9831207428

Hitachi AC Dealer – Park Street, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Eastern Carpets Pvt Ltd
Address : 29, Park Street.Pincode : 700016.

Phone Number : 22170025

Hitachi AC Dealer – Sector-Iii, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Chill-tech
Address : Fd-320, Sector-Iii, Salt Lake,.Pincode : 700106.

Phone Number : ( 033) 2359536

Hitachi AC Dealer – Sodepur, Kolkata
Dealer Name : Sathi Traders
Address : R. N. Avenue, Near Rathindra Cinema.

Phone Number : 2565-7579, 7679

Hitachi AC Kolkata Contact Number :

Phone Number : 2565-7579, 7679
Website : Social Innovation Business - Products, Services & Solution : Hitachi in India

Where is Technocity?



ASS:

1)Hitachi Split Air Conditioner - After Sales Service

2)Hitachi Split Air Conditioner (AC) Review, Price, Features And Models - Review Center

"After sales services matter a lot when we are investing in such kind of devices"



THE ONE AND ONLY IN KOLKATA

158, S P Mukherjee Road
West Bengal, India.
Pincode : 700026.

Phone Number : 033 40159515/40159525
Email-id : neosasrvcal2@gmail.com
Website : Social Innovation Business - Products, Services & Solution : Hitachi in India
Hours of Operation : Monday – Saturday 9AM – 5PM

Source: Hitachi Service Centre in Kolkata – Address, Phone Number | Customer Service

You have to really bargain very hard for 54700 or the next best price is 55000 not a penny more. Technocity is near Minto Park. If there is a voltage fluctuation make sure very sure that you buy a very good stabilizers ,a trip meter and a starter motor assembly all from Crabtree.
 
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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
i am calling many shops both small and big and getting different prices, lowest being 54500.

Now

On comparing the features also i am not getting much difference between the 400i and PRV16.
That's why i asked you to explain why Hitachi is beyond its time.Can u do it kindly, point by point.

How much feet does the air flow in real life for both Hitachi and Daikin?

After reading Hitachi After Sales Service from those sites i am really trembling. If it turns out to be weirdest i will be kicked out literally from my house with innumerable questions claiming the justification of investing huge time over the net for this product compared to those who blindly buy products without knowing anything. Its like better burn in heat but cannot buy a wrong product after so many research work.

So its a humble request to you to en-lighten me regarding their ASS in every possible way.
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Trust me Hitachi's after sales is very good. I have 4 Hitachi ACs and a Refrigerator though none gave trouble but once a staff had left the refrigerators door slightly opened the entire night which led me to think the refrigerator's gone,called up Hitachi ,the technician showed up within 24 hrs!!!! But by then we realised that nothing was wrong with the fridge and he returned without any charges. That's my experience with Hitachi's after sales and products we are using for over 10 years,rest is up to you.

Daikin is good too. You can buy it without issues. The difference between Hitachi and Daikin respective models are in page 1. For me they were very big and glaring differences and the Daikin FTKP is a generation old tech in inverter with 3.46 COP which will be a 5 star standard next year. The Hitachi with 3.81 EER and 18800 BTU is a winner by a long shot. Leave alone the features of hassle free cleaning or no self cleaning,superb build and various other sensors to monitor temperature and keep you comfortable. The low price of Daikin will not remain so when you install it! The calculations are on page one.
Let's make things some for you , if you are OK with a generation old inverter ac and want to save Rs 4000 go with Daikin,but if you are smart and know that the .41 difference in EER will return that Rs 4K in a year or two get the Hitachi.
 
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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
Technical part clear: Hitachi is the winner now. It might happen that next year some other technology will come and make this model of Hitachi a old one. This is a never ending process. But as my 955 BE is still playing a breeze after gulping all my tortures of O.C. , i believe Hitachi 400i will also give me pleasure for years.

Regarding ASS :


Are there different service center for different parts of Kolkata that leads to different experience to different people for a same company?
But we all know that Digicare or Accel Frontline are the only centres for mobos for all parts of kolkata, similar should be the case for A.C........................confused.

For how long you are using this Kashikoi 400i? Kindly uphold this model with a decent Review from you for the benefits of all digitians?

How much feet does the air flow in real life for Hitachi 400i ? really important for me.
 
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The Incinerator

Human Spambot
The Kashikoi is on work 7 to 10 days now ...Max. Airthrow is excellent. Those sites may not be lying at all. If you read about Daikin there are similar and a lot bad write ups out there. Every company has it. When you call the toll free Hitachi Number the Technician comes from one point/H.O but installers are at random.

If you are iffy about Hitachi's after sales you can safely go for Daikin too no issues. Its your self satisfaction first.
 

icebags

Technomancer
EDIT: My room is 198 sq ft. So 1.5 Ton is the requirement

As per The Incinerator's suggestion I have zeroed to HITACHI Kashikoi 400i RAU019CVEA Model.

Just a comparison with DAIKIN model FTKM50PRV16

BRAND
HITACHI
DAIKIN
MODEL
400i RAU019CVEA
FTKM50PRV16
"COOLING CAPACITY (BTU/HR)
[[cooling output, measured in British thermal units (BTU) per hour]]"
18800
17100
"COOLING CAPACITY (WATTS)
1 BTU/Hr = 0.293 Watts"
5510
5000
POWER CONSUMPTION(WATTS)
1448
1445
"Cooling capacity (Watts) divided by Power (Watts)= EER or COP
[higher the EER number better is its efficiency ]"
3.81
3.46
AIRFLOW (INDOOR UNIT)

583 CFM
614 CFM
REFRIGERANT
410A
R32
PRICE
57000
41490
Extra
STABILIZER FREE
WARRANTY (IDU/ODU)
1/4
1/4

Now a simple calculation for monthly bill with following parameters:

1)12 hrs per day
2)Temp Set @ 27
3)4.65/- per UNIT (WBSEB)


Inverter A.C. USAGE HRS running(8hrs night+4 hrs midday) ACTUAL USAGE IN HRS/DAY
70% of total run 12 8.4

CONSUMPTION IN WATTS
1448 = 1.45 Units /hr

Actual Units of electricity consumed per day 12 (8.4 x 1.45)

Assuming electricity rate per unit(WBSEB) 4.65

Electricity consumed per day in price 57 (4.65 x 12)

Electricity consumed per month in price 1697


Now if i run it for 24 hrs then


Inverter A.C. USAGE HRS running(8hrs night+4 hrs midday) ACTUAL USAGE IN HRS/DAY
70% of total run 24 16.8

CONSUMPTION IN WATTS
1448 = 1.45 Units /hr

Actual Units of electricity consumed per day 24 (16.8 x 1.45)

Assuming electricity rate per unit(WBSEB) 4.65

Electricity consumed per day in price 113 (4.65 x 24)

Electricity consumed per month in price 3394


How am i going to get reduced bill with more usage?

just wanted to say, u r calculating as if ac going to run its compressor at highest power for all the time its switched on.

but that does not happen. non inverter ac goes through on-off periods of full capacity cooling, whereas inverters run at reduced power @300-400 watts constant;ly, if cooling requirement is low.

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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
The Kashikoi is on work 7 to 10 days now ...Max. Airthrow is excellent. Those sites may not be lying at all. If you read about Daikin there are similar and a lot bad write ups out there. Every company has it. When you call the toll free Hitachi Number the Technician comes from one point/H.O but installers are at random.

If you are iffy about Hitachi's after sales you can safely go for Daikin too no issues. Its your self satisfaction first.

I have already stated that technical part is clear to me and my choice is Kashikoi.


Yes, my understanding is also the same that no company ASS is flawless.
But since this is the first time i am going to buy an A.C. i am sceptical. By this time we know the ASS of different computer parts and we buy accordingly. First impression is really important as it is in your case.

What you said is : After buying i need to call them in toll free number and then some installers not from H.O will come who are not technical.They will just install it. After that if any problem occurs then the technician will come.................is it correct?


My room length is 13.25 feet. The A.C. will be on the opposite wall of bed. So the airflow must be 13 feet for wall to wall coverage.
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Airflow will easily cover your 13 feet. Its not air flow that cools its the BTU. Don't read too much in to airflow. Airflow are just some noisy fans.
 
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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
what about my this qn?

What you said is : After buying i need to call them in toll free number and then some installers not from H.O will come who are not technical.They will just install it. After that if any problem occurs then the technician will come.................is it correct?

got the lowest price of 53850 for kashikoi.


where is the HEAD OFFICE of HITACHI KOLKATA?
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
They will send qualified installers after you call up the Hitachi toll free number. I never said they will send unqualified installers ,at random means one of their many installers.
 
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avichandana20000

avichandana20000

Cyborg Agent
so the steps will be like this :

1) Buy product from the shop that gives you the lowest quotation
2) Forget the shop. Never indulge them to send installers cause they are the shop owner's personnel.
3)Contact the toll free number of that respective company.
4) They will send installers salaried by the Company. You may ask to present the ID CARDS for further surety.Hitachi personnel wear a dress with Hitachi written on it.
5)Ask them to do the installation properly and check if they are doing vacuum test. It is important for coolant.
6)Bargain on the installation cost if there is scope.
 
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