chandru.in
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In the topic may be.where is the war ?
Windows 7: Microsoft's Linux killer?
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chandru.in
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Whether MS fears it or not, Preston Gralla seems to be greatly scared of Linux's success to ensure market for his books. He is digging out old stories and claims.
*blogs.computerworld.com/one_more_reason_linux_must_fear_windows_7
But ASUS CEO had clearly explained at least for EEE, returns rates were similar for XP and Linux versions. I guess MSI just messed up the UI.
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MetalheadGautham
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Thats the time Sidux took to install for me. Ubuntu took 20 min.
But tell me, how long does it take for the first dist-upgrade and install of restricted-extras ?
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FilledVoid
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If the club includes me then Yes Id love to be in it.
Are you stating that he included package install times like Flash and codecs in the 20 minutes too
. Cause I definitely don't see that happening either. I believe he just referred to updating his package lists. And who on earth gave you permission to insult that particular Windows user? What makes you think that he needs the insulting ?
Unfortunately geographical factors do prevent that from happening else Id be more than happy to drive there to see this 20 minute install procedure. Hence I call it based on my experience. My experience tells me that there is no way you got an Ubuntu up and running for a Live CD in 20 minutes. If I hadn't done a reinstall of Arch I probably would have installed Hardy Heron and confirmed again.
As I said I have no comment on the Alternate CD install. I pointed at the comment on the Live CD install and that is what I still stick too.
No I dont intend on weaseling my way out of it. In other words I dont intend on taking 1 minute coming up with a weird login name or hostname.
chandru.in
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You are right I did not include installing any additional package just the plain install including refreshing of package list.Are you stating that he included package install times like Flash and codecs in the 20 minutes too
And you say this even after kalpik confirmed my statement. And in any case, even if you fail 100 times to achieve it, you have no reason to claim I was lying. I did it and it is my experience (now Kalpik's too).
I'll stick with same too. But in that case don't add Live CD boot time to install time. If you want to include boot time, use alternate CD simple.
MetalheadGautham
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Are you stating that he included package install times like Flash and codecs in the 20 minutes too
Seriously. I DID take that much time on BSNL H500. I just used the IIT Chennai mirrors. 210kbps min and 240kbps max
I am refering to a pompous i-know-everything-in-the-world type of guy I personally know. I now realise that I should not have mentioned it here.
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FilledVoid
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Yes as you claimed from your experience so did I. Since I guess kalpik can back your claim I guess it might be right then. My apologies.
Nope, if I intend to judge Windows on their whole install procedure the I intend to do the same on any OS I use, Including the boot up time.
How do we know your i-know-everything-in-the-world type of guy you personally know
I am refering to a pompous i-know-everything-in-the-world type of guy I personally know. I now realise that I should not have mentioned it here.
. as per your statement you were refering every windows user as a n00b, and when some questions the statement you say I was not refering to those guys and blah blah , please think before making a statement, make sure you dont make a fool of yourself by such comments.chandru.in
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Ah finally thanks for taking back your claims that I was lying.
You are welcome to do it. But compare apples to apples in terms of install medium.
Live CD of Ubuntu - Live CD of Windows (If one is ever made)
Alternate CD of Ubuntu - Normal install DVD of Windows
Come on man what is it that you don't get? Loading a fully functional desktop is several times intensive than loading just an installer.
I agree with that too. I was irritated only coz FilledVoid outright denied my statement and called it a lie. But yeah before I upgraded my system recently I cherry picked most Ubuntu friendly hardware components. So it very much possible that Ubuntu came bundled high performing drivers for my system.Ok.. Let me clarify.. I think it depends a lot on your hardware.. I guess my hardware is more "linux friendly" than yours, probably that's why the huge difference in installation time
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yep...exactly. Just get the right piece of hardware before banging your headOk.. Let me clarify.. I think it depends a lot on your hardware.. I guess my hardware is more "linux friendly" than yours, probably that's why the huge difference in installation time
Though I still dont think that new BIOS update fixes the BIOS bug for Debian lenny netinst discs
Btw Flledvoid, I think majority of users here said that it took less than 30 mins but still nevermind
Btw it's all fine until you take it verbally personal...lolz
chandru.in
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MetalheadGautham
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If thats the case, maybe its because my language is becoming worse for some reasonHow do we know your i-know-everything-in-the-world type of guy you personally know
Time to start learning to use words better I guess.
I hope I did not offend anybody in my "out-of-context" statements.
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FilledVoid
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Respect is earned. I take Kalpiks word with more value than I would for a majority of users theres nothing to be amazed there.
As I said earlier I didnt judge an alternate cd ior a text install procedure or an FTP procedure. I did mention that I based my judgement on a Live CD/DVD . There is no Apples being compared here since Im not comparing Windows with Linux. All I was comparing was the Install Time. In other words Boot up -> Live CD -> Installation Procedure -> Restart -> Boot up to my desktop. I would use to include any timings incurred as the previously mentioned procedure as my judgement. How you judge Windows vs Linux is irrelative to me.
MetalheadGautham
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I noticed that ubuntu started taking LOTS of time to boot and go between install steps ever since 7.10 was released. I think its because my comp and several others' computers have hardware that causes compiz to hang and waste time.
Whats YOUR hardware configuration ?
chandru.in
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@FilledVoid
I was mentioning about Ubuntu getting installed much faster than Windows so obviously I did not count boot time of Live CD. It was after that post that you chipped in saying it is hard to believe.
I was mentioning about Ubuntu getting installed much faster than Windows so obviously I did not count boot time of Live CD. It was after that post that you chipped in saying it is hard to believe.
MetalheadGautham
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even windows has its own boot time, doesn't it ?
whats it like in vista sp1 ?
For me, windows XP SP2 cd takes 1 mintue to boot.
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