Vista vs Mojave

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infra_red_dude

Wire muncher!
@infra, I can't believe you have been arguing with a wall for such a long time, you know there's no point in arguing with whom you are doing now, you were the one advising about this, but now you seem to be on the other side :(

Anyways, fun to watch from the sidelines the ignorance of a few in this thread :cool:
Naah.. I usually don't... rather never if you dig up my posts.. but somehow felt I should take a break from my work :D

And I argued here only because there was a chance to pit Vista against XP in many posts... I'd haf never argued if it was Vista vs. Mac or Vista vs. Linux, coz we all know the outcome :lol:

I dunno when was the last time I argued with anybody on the forums.. but this time it was fun time for me :D
 
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chandru.in

In the zone
Could someone please enlighten me how exactly this Mojave experiment was different from the stalls in shopping malls which demoed Vista during its initial release?

I saw some people saying wow in those stalls too! But it didn't mean the world accepted Vista!! :p
 

amitava82

MMO Addict
Wow they managed to get 120 random people who have never seen vista? And a demo does not prove anything. It does not take much time to change people's opinion with demo and show them what YOU want to show. Same results can be achieved with Linux. No big deal. And most of the responses looks sarcastic. I dunno what you feel.
 

anandk

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Most of Vista's problems are caused due to pre-installed crapware. You don't see all this happening on a Mac machine, do you!? The Mac hardware and the software are well integrated with each other and shipped. But in the case of Windows Vista, Microsoft sells the licenses to the manufacturers, who loaded it on the machines along with the trial ware. Money is offered to the computers manufacturers by the software publishers, but the cost paid for by the Vista end user in terms of bad performance!

Microsoft needs to take note of this fast ! I know Microsoft is aware of this and have they have also said that there is little they can do about it, but they have to realize that in the end, it is Microsoft itself that gets the ... err ... cake in its face.

Its a mighty fine idea of having a snazzy new ad campaign and spending $500 million on it. But maybe Microsoft would want to consider diverting a bit of this money to the manufacturers instead, since they appear reluctant to let go of even this pocket change. It would be money well spent !

Microsoft wouldn't then have to resort to tricking customers into liking Vista, with Mojave sort of experiments.

Sourced from Exorcise Your New Windows Vista Computer.
 
^^ agree a lot. Many guys I know who use Dell laptops say they ended up formatting it and reinstalling from the Vista Disc a few hours after using the laptop because there were quite a good number of trial software.

Ofcource, a mac also comes with trialware like iWork, but in its case, things are different because their target audience does not mind it.

Moral of the story: If you need an OS to work best for you, install it from the scratch, choosing exactly what you WANT to install.

PS: but why is this significant in this thread ?
 

tarey_g

Hanging, since 2004..
^^ Surprisingly my dell 1520 inspiron did not come with any crapware loaded with vista and they also gave me vista dvd unlike sony which only gives backup on you laptopp's hdd or backup dvd's.
 
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iMav

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Microsoft needs to take note of this fast ! I know Microsoft is aware of this and have they have also said that there is little they can do about it, but they have to realize that in the end, it is Microsoft itself that gets the ... err ... cake in its face.
I think Ballmer talked about this recently when he said that they will be making amends in the way they deal with hardware manufacturers.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^ agree a lot. Many guys I know who use Dell laptops say they ended up formatting it and reinstalling from the Vista Disc a few hours after using the laptop because there were quite a good number of trial software.

Ofcource, a mac also comes with trialware like iWork, but in its case, things are different because their target audience does not mind it.

Moral of the story: If you need an OS to work best for you, install it from the scratch, choosing exactly what you WANT to install.

PS: but why is this significant in this thread ?


Not just Vista.

My personal image of Windows Vista runs extremely faster on T43 than the winxp image that my company provides that is loaded with thousand security and internal apps.

I really do think that vista haters in my company will increase once we move to Vista as the default OS because I can bet on my life that the image builders here will ruin vista by adding unnecessary bloatware into it. :)
 
Not just Vista.

My personal image of Windows Vista runs extremely faster on T43 than the winxp image that my company provides that is loaded with thousand security and internal apps.

I really do think that vista haters in my company will increase once we move to Vista as the default OS because I can bet on my life that the image builders here will ruin vista by adding unnecessary bloatware into it. :)
I know. I hate this attitude some people have that configuring from scratch is hard and next to impossible. I installed my OS from the scratch, and I am already seeing differences from my older install which had lots of pre-installed stuff.
 

Pat

Beyond Smart
I know. I hate this attitude some people have that configuring from scratch is hard and next to impossible. I installed my OS from the scratch, and I am already seeing differences from my older install which had lots of pre-installed stuff.

Sir you are a genius but not everyone is a geek and they care a **** about all this.
 
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iMav

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
What Pat is referring is not installing but installing+configuring. Windows after installation is workable, the same cannot be said about some other OSs which need a lot of configuring to do.
 
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