Microsoft admits: we still haven't fixed Hotmail

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din

Tribal Boy
1. it was my first email account since i can remmeber accessing the internet for the first time
Agreed, not easy to change email that we use for long.
2. its tight integration with other Live services, 1 account to access all MS services
Well, does not sound logical as far as email is considered, but as you say, agreed !
3. integration within windows & now that i am using office live too i can simply drag & drop documents into the ftp folder after setting up my passport account in xp & vista :)
Same comment as above
4. unlike yahoo, i dont foresee a take-over bid for MS
This is very funny reason :D Really ROTFL. Reminds me one of my friends trick, happened long back. He was in need of closure of his bank account (read : his balance Rs.500 or less !) as he shift to another place. The manager refused to close account, he didn't care much too. One day the manager was busy talking to some big business man and my friend went to his cabin and told him he need to close account and need his Rs.500 back. The manager got lil irritated and asked my friend why he need to close down account. My friends answer - "Sir, I am really worried on my cash, I fear because of the Y2K issue, the account section may get messed up and I may lose all my money" The business man who was talking to the manager was like - opened his mouth for 10 mins LOL. And manager took my friend to another room and asked another officer to close down his account and to give his money back immediately :D
though gmail is faster than hotmail because of its simpler, no frills design but for the above reasons i use and will keep on using my homtail account, the increase in space and web 2.0 interface features etc. are just change with times so i am not listing them as reasons as to why i prefer using hotmail
No comments needed ;)
this post of urs is no different :), avoid trolling and provoking others please :)
Another very funny comment :D LOL. Look whos telling !! Oh my God, February was a funny month, lot of jokes !!

What I like about Windows Live Mail is MAPI. All the mails I have are on the server, however if I use a desktop client like Windows Live Mail desktop or Outlook 2007 then all the mails are in my computer as well as the server.
Heard of POP ? Email Clients ? Gmail support POP / IMAP etc ?
The benefit is that not only I can access the mails offline in my computer, but I can access the same mails when I m away from my computer even from my mobile phone....
gmail does it all

beat that gmail....If I use GMail, then once I download mails to my computer in Outlook 2007, they are removed from the web account.
Really funny, never knew you are new to POP / IMAP :D

Yahoo is for chatting :D
+1 and msn is also for chatting for me. I use my own sites email (web, pop, imap and in mobile) plus I use gmail, and all these works pretty well with email client.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Well, does not sound logical as far as email is considered, but as you say, agreed !

Same comment as above
thats because u i assume are not using - spaces; office live; skydrive; technet; msn groups etc. which i use so having 1 email account becomes a very handy thing :)
This is very funny reason :D Really ROTFL. Reminds me one of my friends trick, happened long back. He was in need of closure of his bank account (read : his balance Rs.500 or less !) as he shift to another place. The manager refused to close account, he didn't care much too. One day the manager was busy talking to some big business man and my friend went to his cabin and told him he need to close account and need his Rs.500 back. The manager got lil irritated and asked my friend why he need to close down account. My friends answer - "Sir, I am really worried on my cash, I fear because of the Y2K issue, the account section may get messed up and I may lose all my money" The business man who was talking to the manager was like - opened his mouth for 10 mins LOL. And manager took my friend to another room and asked another officer to close down his account and to give his money back immediately :D
this reminds me of chetan bhagat's novel - 1 night at a call center :D
Another very funny comment :D LOL. Look whos telling !! Oh my God, February was a funny month, lot of jokes !!
u can thank kalpik for this change & the fact that i have an infraction till the 8th so till that is disolved i dont want to woop some1s candy a$$ :p
 

din

Tribal Boy
I didn't read the novel, so not sure what it is, this is my friends true experience. But your reasoning of yahoo takeover bid etc really made me laugh :D and first thing came to mind was my friends experience !!!
 
1. hotmail is too cluttered

2. hotmail does not give high enough storage space

3. hotmail does not have the extra features I require

4. hotmail is heavy and hard to use compared to gmail

5. hotmail is from micro$oft

6. hotmail is too windows oriented

7. hotmail gives 10 marriage proposals each day

8. hotmail gives 20 loan ads each day

9. hotmail attracts too much spam

10. hotmail marks proper messages as spam

11. hotmail is strange as I get tonnes of pirated windows buy offer

12. hotmail is no longer the property of sameer bhatia

13. hotmail is not intergrated into google's services

14. hotmail runs on a windows based server

15. hotmail is not hot



all this ensures that I don't use hotmail. GMail rocks.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
1. hotmail is too cluttered
4. hotmail is heavy and hard to use compared to gmail
15. hotmail is not hot
subjective :)
2. hotmail does not give high enough storage space
5GB i dont think is considered as less :)
3. hotmail does not have the extra features I require
i think it only lacks pop3 access other than that i would like to know what im missing by using hotmail :)
6. hotmail is too windows oriented
well a lot of people use windows & so in other words u accept the fact that if ur using windows hotmail is better than gmail for u :) ... i agree to u
7. hotmail gives 10 marriage proposals each day
8. hotmail gives 20 loan ads each day
adblock plus :) works like a charm
9. hotmail attracts too much spam
famous, besides the spam filter has without doubt improved a hell lot since hotmail has become live
10. hotmail marks proper messages as spam

it has even marked mails from MSN itself as spam :D

11. hotmail is strange as I get tonnes of pirated windows buy offer
its ur mailbox only u know what u get, besides if they are pirated windows offers or whatever an email service is meant to deliver ur mail which it does and as u ureself have pointed out hotmail does not filter mails whether they are about pirated software or no, in other terms this is a good point :)
12. hotmail is no longer the property of sameer bhatia
sabeer bhatia
13. hotmail is not intergrated into google's services
din heres some more laughter for u :)
14. hotmail runs on a windows based server
5. hotmail is from micro$oft
and that is the beauty of it :)
 

ravi_9793

TechTin.com
1. hotmail is too cluttered
They put almost 50% less ads than Gmail


2. hotmail does not give high enough storage space
5GB email space+ 5 GB space as skyDrice
Thats much more than sufficient.

3. hotmail does not have the extra features I require
what extra you want to make it HOT :confused:


4. hotmail is heavy and hard to use compared to gmail
Hard like ???

5. hotmail is from micro$oft
No logic

6. hotmail is too windows oriented
Again, No logic

7. hotmail gives 10 marriage proposals each day


8. hotmail gives 20 loan ads each day
I get zero :D


9. hotmail attracts too much spam
You must try new Live Ids.


10. hotmail marks proper messages as spam
May be for the first times from a particular ID, and that make it more secure.


11. hotmail is strange as I get tonnes of pirated windows buy offer
Again, I get zero on my 5 year old hotmail ID.

12. hotmail is no longer the property of sameer bhatia
so........

13. hotmail is not intergrated into google's services
It has its own services. Does google provide live services :confused:

14. hotmail runs on a windows based server
so... :rolleyes:

15. hotmail is not hot
your personal opinion :D
 
They put almost 50% less ads than Gmail



5GB email space+ 5 GB space as skyDrice
Thats much more than sufficient.


what extra you want to make it HOT :confused:



Hard like ???


No logic


Again, No logic


I get zero :D



You must try new Live Ids.



May be for the first times from a particular ID, and that make it more secure.



Again, I get zero on my 5 year old hotmail ID.


so........


It has its own services. Does google provide live services :confused:


so... :rolleyes:


your personal opinion :D
I said everything that concerns me. I stated the reasons why I don't use hotmail and use gmail. your choice and your needs, along with your likings may vary. So there is no use contradicting my statements.

[/b]subjective :)[/b]5GB i dont think is considered as less :)
i think it only lacks pop3 access other than that i would like to know what im missing by using hotmail :)
well a lot of people use windows & so in other words u accept the fact that if ur using windows hotmail is better than gmail for u :) ... i agree to u
[/b]adblock plus :) works like a charm
famous, besides the spam filter has without doubt improved a hell lot since hotmail has become live
[/b]
it has even marked mails from MSN itself as spam :D
[/b] its ur mailbox only u know what u get, besides if they are pirated windows offers or whatever an email service is meant to deliver ur mail which it does and as u ureself have pointed out hotmail does not filter mails whether they are about pirated software or no, in other terms this is a good point :)
[/b] sabeer bhatia
[/b]din heres some more laughter for u :)
[/b]and that is the beauty of it :)
I told you, your needs are different from mine. I am not a windows oriented guy. I am a web cum linux oriented guy.
 
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ravi_9793

TechTin.com
I said everything that concerns me. I stated the reasons why I don't use hotmail and use gmail. your choice and your needs, along with your likings may vary. So there is no use contradicting my statements.


I told you, your needs are different from mine. I am not a windows oriented guy. I am a web cum linux oriented guy.

Ok... your personal opinion.
I am saying all these because I think you are missing some great live features. I will request you to sign up a test live Id, and see how many spams you get.

Just avoid posting your Id in useless forms.

recently (may be 2 months old) I created a @live.in ID..and yet I have not received any spam.
 
Ok... your personal opinion.
I am saying all these because I think you are missing some great live features. I will request you to sign up a test live Id, and see how many spams you get.

Just avoid posting your Id in useless forms.

recently I created a @live.in ID..and yet I have not received any spam.
could you name those features ?
 

infra_red_dude

Wire muncher!
1. hotmail is too cluttered
Agree.

2. hotmail does not give high enough storage space
Never bothered. I like to keep my inbox well organised and clean.

3. hotmail does not have the extra features I require
Like? Care to list a few?

4. hotmail is heavy and hard to use compared to gmail
Spot on! The biggest drawback of hotmail (being heavy).

5. hotmail is from micro$oft
So?

6. hotmail is too windows oriented
Like?

7. hotmail gives 10 marriage proposals each day

8. hotmail gives 20 loan ads each day

9. hotmail attracts too much spam
Nada.. for me, Hotmail's spam filter works very well.

10. hotmail marks proper messages as spam
True, haf faced this most in Hotmail among others.

11. hotmail is strange as I get tonnes of pirated windows buy offer
Huh????!! :confused:

12. hotmail is no longer the property of sameer bhatia
And how does that influence in the liking of your hotmail?

13. hotmail is not intergrated into google's services
Are you for real??!! :lol:

14. hotmail runs on a windows based server
As long as it doesn't crash or downtimes/security problems this hardly matters.

15. hotmail is not hot
True. IMHO what you need is MallikaMail :D

For me except speed, for everything else Hotmail = GMail for all the features I use. Hotmail is just too heavy. Thats the only complaint against hotmail. Oh yea, one more: No free pop/imap support. That sux! Spam filter is better than Yahoo's equal to GMail but many times wrongly marks proper mails as spam. My first ID way back when hotmail was released to public was with this service.

I'm a strict hater of the web 2.0 interface in mail services. So whenever I'm not on my laptop (away from mail client) what do I do? I disable ajax UI of yahoo, I disable chat service in gmail and use the standard version of Hotmail. I'm still a happy user :)
 
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All the 15 points you have made.
Try it, you will see all 15 points are pointless :)
its too late to give windows mail a third chance now, when I am already comfortable with GMail.
the very fact that it runs on a Windows Server makes it more vulnerable to viruses.
but please do tell me what are the stuff I can expect seeing in hotmail since I ditched it in 2006.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
For me except speed, for everything else Hotmail = GMail for all the features I use. Hotmail is just too heavy. Thats the only complaint against hotmail. Oh yea, one more: No free pop/imap support. That sux! Spam filter is better than Yahoo's equal to GMail but many times wrongly marks proper mails as spam. My first ID way back when hotmail was released to public was with this service.
+1, i dont know but for some reason i dont like the concept of pop for online based emails
 
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