So many kids here.
Chetan1991 said:
Smooth flawless supple skin, hourglass shape, wide hips etc. are definite proofs of superior genes in a woman, and that is why we are attracted to them instinctively, without thinking.
There is no pattern to this. See the studies:
Not just a pretty face: Modern men prefer women with brains rather than beauty | Mail Online
Study: Stressed-out men want heavier women | HLNtv.com
You can pretty much find a study that supports basically any hypothesis. It doesn't mean anything at all.
Chetan1991 said:
Let me begin with an analogy. When a computer is running, everything happens in terms of Boolean algebra. No matter what you are doing, writing a document, watching a movie, creating 3D animation, programming, it is all executed in terms of Boolean algebra in the from of billions of transistors either letting a pulse of electricity pass or not.
Physically, those circuits are basically switches and gates. It's the programing that makes them work differently. Now, I take your "matrix" and "programs" back at you; you are the end result of your own programming.
Physical != Logical; yet your apparatus does not have a use or purpose if both are not defined.
Chetan1991 said:
The second basic urge is survival of the species, which is accomplished via procreation (sex) with the most compatible and best specimen (of the other gender) of your species.
Smooth flawless supple skin, hourglass shape, wide hips etc. are definite proofs of superior genes in a woman, and that is why we are attracted to them instinctively, without thinking.
Interesting, because I don't get attracted that easily. Like I said, we are the result of our programming. What defines "good", "better", or "best"? How do you know that? In fact, just because traditionally males were the hunter-gatherers in human society; this is what you should be today too? Get to it then
chetan1991 said:
Women's beauty is a very fragile and temporary phase, from the ages of 15-30, after which it starts to decline fast, whereas a man can look handsome even in his 50s if he takes care of his body and mind. e.g. Salman Khan looked like a champu when young but now he looks great. Only a few women look great after 35. Feminine beauty has no other purpose than to help the female find and attract the best mate.
LOL
Everyone has their peak of "beauty" at 15-30. Think you'll look as good when the hair loss starts, you start gaining wrinkles, putting on weight, etc.? Salman IMO looks nowhere as good today as he did when he was young, neither does Sylvester Stallone, for that matter. Anyone can look fine provided they put some effort. Ameesha Patel, for example still looks fine at 38.
As for colour; it is purely genetic with a slight bias towards women influenced by estrogen (max 2-3 skin tones on the chart I have provided earlier). If it was so much about the estrogen, all handsome men with ripped bodies would be dark....and that surely isn't so.
chetan1991 said:
I call BS on your maturity theory. Now you are yourself generalizing. What proof do you have about women being more mature than us?
Why don't you try involving yourself in maintaining a household, cooking, cleaning, looking after siblings/kids/elders, paying bills, looking after medical issues of self (well, there are a few women-only issues), etc. all at the same time? I am sure the experience of doing it for even a month will make you more mature.
Women in India traditionally were encouraged and supposed to involve themselves in this sort of work, increasing family bonding and also giving them maturity. This is also a part of conditioning, programming. The programs men didn't have as they were left free for tasks outside the house and increased social activity/taskmaster/financial breadwinning tasks.
Raise a boy in the same way as you do a girl and you'd be surprised with the results
That was the reason for that perception, one that is changing today as with modern lifestyles girls are no longer obliged or willing to do any of those tasks and themselves lead a liberated, active social life. This may not hold true today, but it was true yesterday.
chetan1991 said:
Hierarchy is the truth of nature, though it is not absolute hierarchy. e.g. I could be at the top of hierarchy of knowledge, and at bottom of hierarchy of looks. If everyone was equal and the same the world would be boring, and without diversity.
Systems are supposed to either be in chaos or equilibrium, not in ordered way. All hierarchies still come down to the lowest level at the end. Since we aren't yet seeing an equilibrium, or even chaos, it appears that society was "directed" to behave this way rather than what was natural.
chetan1991 said:
I think I answered your insecurity question already. Looks matter, especially in women since looks are signs of superior genetics, hence potential for a better offspring.
Final decision is yours.
But what defines good looks? Is it the facial features, or the skin colour? Are those genes superior? How do you know? Is dark skin not healthy?
Fact of the matter is that you don't know. Do you see colourism in dogs? They seem to mate with whoever seems compatible without giving shits about the colour of their fur....
Harsh Pranami said:
I mean I respect all girls but when it comes to a relationship, I will certainly choose a girl who is fair and beautiful.
And why should they accept you?
Does that mean a girl who is not fair is not beautiful?
It goes on many levels, and skin colour.....can be anything really of your offsprings
Rishi said:
People with fairer skin will have genes to produce fair toned offspring
So, a guy who is fair and hooks up with a darker girl can also give the same result
At the same time....two dark skinned people can, in fact, give birth to a lighter skinned child (I am one such case)....
Rishi said:
Why do people prefer well built persons , with muscles and 6-pax abs and good height and don't like obese and stunted ones ? Why are men attracted to wom**n with big ****s ??
Psychological reasons actually. If a guy is not fit, it implies he is not healthy. If he cannot keep himself healthy, casts a doubt on the ability to keep the children healthy. They are not unattractive because they look bad
Similarly, big article on why (some, because I am not one of those men) have a fetish for big boobs:
Big breasts (a.k.a. Mommy didn't love me)
Rishi said:
Hatred and discrimination based on skin tone may not be in our genes but giving preference to fair skin tone definitely is.
Au contraire. People with darker skin are considered much hotter in many foreign countries. Why is that?
You have been programmed to be this way by your society and upbringing just like Americans have been programmed that getting a brown tan is very very sexy
Rishi said:
Love happens between behaviour and brain , like happens between physical appearance. { general case.}
Hmm, will agree on this.
Allu Azad said:
Even in black tribes in Africa , the lesser black girl is mostly preferred by men .
(Read in some survey somewhere)
Read above statements. Tanned people considered hotter in America
It's the program!
axes2t2 said:
That AcceleratorX is a closet feminist.
I don't need to point out that his opening post of the thread is a bunch of bull because Chetan1991 ripped him apart.
The women who call themselves "feminists" are hardly so, don't even get me started on them.
Bunch of bull? "ripped me apart"? What crude language! Kiddo, next time, come back with some manners.....
avinandan012 said:
@AcceleratorX our male genes operates like this: fair skin tone(implies health) + big b**bs = potential healthy offspring
on female side it's like : tall + handsome = can give better protection to offsprings
It's only partly genetics. It's mostly our upbringing.
chetan1991 said:
Fame and wealth of a man are the ultimate aphrodisiacs to women while a super hot body its the equivalent for us.
It's a nice thing to say, we actually believe it because we see it
But I showed a few studies that seem to be bucking the trend? Like I said, there are no patterns to these, I can make n studies to prove any point. In our society it has been
made like that to establish gender roles with a superiority to the male. This is in fact directly related to societal problems and even rapes but I am not going to go into that, I'm too tired today
