IIT Student Cured From Cancer By Yoga (Patanjali Yogpeeth)

[rishitells]

I didn't use hair oil at all. Used my PC 7 hours daily for Net and Gaming.
My parents took me to Yoga Camp in Haridwar. Stayed there for 10 days, and my life transformed. There are millions of people like me, who believe in Yoga more than any therapy in this world...

 

[tkin]

I didn't use hair oil at all. Used my PC 7 hours daily for Net and Gaming.
My parents took me to Yoga Camp in Haridwar. Stayed there for 10 days, and my life transformed. There are millions of people like me, who believe in Yoga more than any therapy in this world...

Ok, truth here, I never oil my hair, like ever, also I use net for 8-10 hrs straight, stay awake till 3.00-4.00AM and I don't have white hair.

 

[Arsenal_Gunners]

I didn't use hair oil at all. Used my PC 7 hours daily for Net and Gaming.

That caused grey hair.Deary me!

 

[rishitells]

Mr. Tkin, what did you do for straight 2-3 years? Please specify...

 

[soumo27]

Using ur PC for 7 hrs caused grey hair?

 

[rishitells]

Yes, Mr. soumo27. I said since my childhood, not for 1 or 2 years.....

And I am relating my Eyes to Using my PC, not Hairs...

Got eye problems because of exceesive usage, hairs got white because of another problems...

 

[Arsenal_Gunners]

Which other problems?You can share here

 

[rishitells]

let's move to the original topic...
As for Ramdev Fanatic, mr Tkin, I am not at all that..
I am a believer of Vedas. Swami Ramdev didn't invent Yoga, he is just a preacher.

 

[Arsenal_Gunners]

Haha I get what you mean by "other problems".And no,it doesn't cause grey hair

Carry on with the topic.

 

[tkin]

Mr. Tkin, what did you do for straight 2-3 years? Please specify...

Pranayam, padmasana(I am not sure if its yoga) about 30-40mins per day, from 2006-2008, helped me with my health, decreased some weight(also stopped eating junk food), got rid of the fatty liver, also I felt really fresh everyday, but then pancreatitis struck me in 2008 and I got bed ridden for some time, after that college started so didn't find time to do yoga any more, but I believe yoga is very good for our body, I tested it and I can verify, my dust allergy also stopped happening as often as it was a few years back, yoga definitely helped me there, it also cured my father's long term gastritis problem and cured his ulcer as well, which couldn't be cured with medicine, I admit to all of these but not the yoga curing cancer or aids part.

I am sure yoga has effects on out immunity system so it can prevent the occurrence of cancer(environmental factors) or cure us from allergies, migraines(helped my friend), ulcers, but once cancer develops in someone it can't be cured simply by yoga.

I challenge this, someone inject baba ramdev with a vial of hiv virus, and then lets see if he can fight it off with yoga(also keep him under supervision for the first few weeks cause its possible to get rid of the virus within 48hrs or so after it enters your body afaik with some special treatment)

 

[rishitells]

Doesn't matter if you believe it or not, it's your problem bro..
As I stated earlier, Yoga and Ayurveda is the most ancient, and complete branch of human knowledge derived from Vedas. You don't have enough vision to evaluate them..
And I don't want to argue foolishly without any conclusion.
I take the challenge. I am working on the reported cases, And will come back with valid proof....

Pranayam, padmasana(I am not sure if its yoga) about 30-40mins per day, from 2006-2008, helped me with my health, decreased some weight(also stopped eating junk food), got rid of the fatty liver, also I felt really fresh everyday, but then pancreatitis struck me in 2008 and I got bed ridden for some time, after that college started so didn't find time to do yoga any more, but I believe yoga is very good for our body, I tested it and I can verify, my dust allergy also stopped happening as often as it was a few years back, yoga definitely helped me there, it also cured my father's long term gastritis problem and cured his ulcer as well, which couldn't be cured with medicine, I admit to all of these but not the yoga curing cancer or aids part.

Padmasana? Is that pranayaman.
Brother, I am talking about Anulom-Vilom and Kapalbhati.. That's pranayama
But anyway, I good you got benefited... I am glad at least you believe it helps...

Doing one Asana or Pranayama will only help a certain problem.
It's a complete sequence of Asanas or Pranayama that will help to cure any disease...

Haha I get what you mean by "other problems".And no,it doesn't cause grey hair

Carry on with the topic.

I know that doesn't cause grey hair...

One offtopic thing..
I play bansuri, and that too helped me a lot in health problems, after all it is a form of pranayama, too
because of the continuous blowing (for 30 seconds at least), and the magic of Hindustani Music, my life is much more beautiful than before...

 

[AcceleratorX]

Going by some of the above posts, since I don't do yoga and still sit on the PC for 7 hrs and don't eat properly (I literally survive on bread and maggi), I should either be dead already, or I am a God

In any case, here I am, with a full head of jet black hair and 6kg overweight to boot

 

[Sarath]

Yoga can cure cancer? Well according to modern practices if a drug has to be realeased int o the market 15-20years of research is done on it with animal experiments and closed human trials. This is a tedious and long process. The value of human life cannot be compared and hence such strict vigilance is kept.

However Yoga doesn't come in the threupatic domain. It is more to improve ones health than to cure diseases. Simply put a person doing yoga is more likely going to be healthy than one who is not. Since the non-infective diseases have a complex aetiology (causes) it is still too naive to say that yoga does/does not help cancer. But it would be safe to say that under the present results and scenarios, misguiding people that yoga can cure cancer and aids is a gross misinformation and negligence on ones part.

Like I said a single case, let alone a hundred are by far too few to give any credibility to the made claims.

And cancer is of many types and is a very grave disease unlike others. I am awaiting a through research on this topic before any hasty conclusions are made.

 

[Tech&ME]

Pranayam, padmasana(I am not sure if its yoga) about 30-40mins per day, from 2006-2008, helped me with my health, decreased some weight(also stopped eating junk food), got rid of the fatty liver, also I felt really fresh everyday, but then pancreatitis struck me in 2008 and I got bed ridden for some time, after that college started so didn't find time to do yoga any more, but I believe yoga is very good for our body, I tested it and I can verify, my dust allergy also stopped happening as often as it was a few years back, yoga definitely helped me there, it also cured my father's long term gastritis problem and cured his ulcer as well, which couldn't be cured with medicine, I admit to all of these but not the yoga curing cancer or aids part.

I am sure yoga has effects on out immunity system so it can prevent the occurrence of cancer(environmental factors) or cure us from allergies, migraines(helped my friend), ulcers, but once cancer develops in someone it can't be cured simply by yoga.

I challenge this, someone inject baba ramdev with a vial of hiv virus, and then lets see if he can fight it off with yoga(also keep him under supervision for the first few weeks cause its possible to get rid of the virus within 48hrs or so after it enters your body afaik with some special treatment)

Yoga can cure cancer? Well according to modern practices if a drug has to be realeased int o the market 15-20years of research is done on it with animal experiments and closed human trials. This is a tedious and long process. The value of human life cannot be compared and hence such strict vigilance is kept.

However Yoga doesn't come in the threupatic domain. It is more to improve ones health than to cure diseases. Simply put a person doing yoga is more likely going to be healthy than one who is not. Since the non-infective diseases have a complex aetiology (causes) it is still too naive to say that yoga does/does not help cancer. But it would be safe to say that under the present results and scenarios, misguiding people that yoga can cure cancer and aids is a gross misinformation and negligence on ones part.

Like I said a single case, let alone a hundred are by far too few to give any credibility to the made claims.

And cancer is of many types and is a very grave disease unlike others. I am awaiting a through research on this topic before any hasty conclusions are made.

Ok guys. both of you have put some valid points to the discussion here.

And @OP

The fellow (ramdev) didn't re-invent the wheel. Yoga is very old. I have studied in a school where we were made to do YOGA on saturdays. Vivekananda Kendra (Kanyakumari) is one such institution which conducts Yoga Class for FREE for all, in Bangalore and other parts of the country.

So, to sum it up.
Yoga is good to improve ones lifestyle and health and it also helps PREVENT diseases but it cannot cure diseases like CANCER.

And to be precise that baba is really a fake. Look at his bank balance.

 

[DigitalDude]

So many experts here on cancer and it's treatment, never knew hehehe now that I took a mandatory cheapshot at your intellectual levels and satisfied my ego let me come to the topic

'The Emperor of all Maladies' is a good book on cancer, please read before generalising all forms of cancer with half-truths and incomplete explanation from wikis. the book also documents to a certain extant all the drama of finding the cure. All cancer cases are not same and so are the terminal patients and patients at the beginning stage.

The cancer cure and research is a trillion dollar industry. The quantum of funds that goes into it pales everything else even AIDS research. through donations and government grants. There are several allegations into this and many investigations are also going on the research methods and suppression of grave side effects of chemotherapy. In many cases chemotherapy itself has resulted in much complex situations than the original cancer itself. So cancer research is not a holy grail for a cancer cure and many alternative treatments also exist apart from ayurveda and yoga, which are systematically supressed just like the way how the oil establishment silences and derails alternative energy research. Pharma sector profits too much from chemotherapy and cancer research and will not let it's cash cow be exposed by anyone. Sorry if you think they are angels with top priority on health of people. These are not just conspiracy theories, there are more than what meets the eye.

"Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud and that the major cancer research organisations are derelict in their duties to the people who support them." - Linus Pauling PhD (Two-time Nobel Prize winner).

Cancer Research - A Super Fraud?

Can we trust the cancer research industry? - The Johns Hopkins News-Letter

Yogasanas, Pranayama, Ayurvedic treatment with a holistic lifestyle are doing wonders for patients world over. A terminally ill cancer patient may not have a chance but to generalise that cancer cannot be treated and cured is just mis-information.

'Yoga As Medicine: The Yogic Prescription For Health And Healing' by Timothy McCall M.D - this is one of the best books written by a western medical practicioner that deals with yoga as a cure for many diseases including the behemoths. Many Ayurvedic drugs have been patented as anti-cancerous and are in market. Dabur, Indian Ayurvedic giant has been selling patented Taxol (Paclitaxel) equivalents from Himalayan herb extracts. Ayurvedic complexes including Receptol have been registered as AIDS remedies.

Just because the OP is not articulate enough or elegant in his replies, you cannot call him 'ramdev fanatic' etc., these potshots are unwarranted. I wonder why there is no uproar when Rhonda Bryne of 'The Secret' fame claims a lot of cured cancer cases (simply by having a 100% cheerful lifestyle, positive affirmations and abandoning chemotherapy altogether) but even chota motas raise voice against yoga gurus like Ramdev when they claim of such results with more proven methods of Yoga and Ayurveda ? Let us be just. There are several vested interests involved in sabotaging anything indigenious which challenges the MNC establishment induced consumption.


Its a good development that we are now much aware of our past knowledge and are giving importance to the same (New project to reconstruct original wording of text from seminal Ayurvedic work, DRDO includes yoga as part of study). These should be encouraged and studied with modern scientific methods. Being totally sceptical and rubbishing them without any enquiry will be a loss to us only.

In the end, we have to remember that our body is the best pharmacy in the world, there are no equivalents to the methods it uses or the chemicals compounds it prepares (anti-bodies) to fight intruders and cure diseases. drugs mainly augment and supplement these processes of our body. even the common cold is mysterious to the medical industry.

[...] And to be precise that baba is really a fake. Look at his bank balance.

since when we all turned communists ? so having a bank balance is evil ? and please substantiate your statement by giving us info about the invisible account of Ramdev.

hope you know there are entities called Trusts, there are trustees, we have laws governing those trusts and periodic auditing being done or are you one of those breed of Homo Ignoramus



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[gagan007]

that was really nice DigitalDude.
People in this forum (and generally otherwise) have serious difficulty in accepting facts which they have not come across personally OR it is stated by any western media/person.

A very distant relative of mine fought throat cancer with the help of yoga and increased his age. I heard he couldn't speak or open his mouth more than half an inch and doctors had given him a timeline of 5-6 months before he would eventually succumb to it but he survived and it has been around 4 years. Although he used to go to treatment centers and took medicines too but he attributes it to yoga the most.

Going by some of the above posts, since I don't do yoga and still sit on the PC for 7 hrs and don't eat properly (I literally survive on bread and maggi), I should either be dead already, or I am a God

In any case, here I am, with a full head of jet black hair and 6kg overweight to boot

Bro, you are young now so brag as much as you can but this unhealthy lifestyle will eventually catch up with you. How do I know? Because I used to do same until recently I had spondylitis attack. I just did 5 different yogasan for a week half an hour daily (and continuing) and got great relief. I am not being sarcastic or wishing you any bad, just trying to give you a heads up.

 

[Tech&ME]

So many experts here on cancer and it's treatment, never knew hehehe now that I took a mandatory cheapshot at your intellectual levels and satisfied my ego let me come to the topic

'The Emperor of all Maladies' is a good book on cancer, please read before generalising all forms of cancer with half-truths and incomplete explanation from wikis. the book also documents to a certain extant all the drama of finding the cure. All cancer cases are not same and so are the terminal patients and patients at the beginning stage.

The cancer cure and research is a trillion dollar industry. The quantum of funds that goes into it pales everything else even AIDS research. through donations and government grants. There are several allegations into this and many investigations are also going on the research methods and suppression of grave side effects of chemotherapy. In many cases chemotherapy itself has resulted in much complex situations than the original cancer itself. So cancer research is not a holy grail for a cancer cure and many alternative treatments also exist apart from ayurveda and yoga, which are systematically supressed just like the way how the oil establishment silences and derails alternative energy research. Pharma sector profits too much from chemotherapy and cancer research and will not let it's cash cow be exposed by anyone. Sorry if you think they are angels with top priority on health of people. These are not just conspiracy theories, there are more than what meets the eye.

Cancer Research - A Super Fraud?

Can we trust the cancer research industry? - The Johns Hopkins News-Letter

Yogasanas, Pranayama, Ayurvedic treatment with a holistic lifestyle are doing wonders for patients world over. A terminally ill cancer patient may not have a chance but to generalise that cancer cannot be treated and cured is just mis-information.

'Yoga As Medicine: The Yogic Prescription For Health And Healing' by Timothy McCall M.D - this is one of the best books written by a western medical practicioner that deals with yoga as a cure for many diseases including the behemoths. Many Ayurvedic drugs have been patented as anti-cancerous and are in market. Dabur, Indian Ayurvedic giant has been selling patented Taxol (Paclitaxel) equivalents from Himalayan herb extracts. Ayurvedic complexes including Receptol have been registered as AIDS remedies.

Just because the OP is not articulate enough or elegant in his replies, you cannot call him 'ramdev fanatic' etc., these potshots are unwarranted. I wonder why there is no uproar when Rhonda Bryne of 'The Secret' fame claims a lot of cured cancer cases (simply by having a 100% cheerful lifestyle, positive affirmations and abandoning chemotherapy altogether) but even chota motas raise voice against yoga gurus like Ramdev when they claim of such results with more proven methods of Yoga and Ayurveda ? Let us be just. There are several vested interests involved in sabotaging anything indigenious which challenges the MNC establishment induced consumption.


Its a good development that we are now much aware of our past knowledge and are giving importance to the same (New project to reconstruct original wording of text from seminal Ayurvedic work, DRDO includes yoga as part of study). These should be encouraged and studied with modern scientific methods. Being totally sceptical and rubbishing them without any enquiry will be a loss to us only.

In the end, we have to remember that our body is the best pharmacy in the world, there are no equivalents to the methods it uses or the chemicals compounds it prepares (anti-bodies) to fight intruders and cure diseases. drugs mainly augment and supplement these processes of our body. even the common cold is mysterious to the medical industry.





since when we all turned communists ? so having a bank balance is evil ? and please substantiate your statement by giving us info about the invisible account of Ramdev.

hope you know there are entities called Trusts, there are trustees, we have laws governing those trusts and periodic auditing being done or are you one of those breed of Homo Ignoramus



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Ohh! Man you took the pain of talking so much!!!

Well to reply to the questions raised by you, Let's start:

Ayurvedic complexes including Receptol have been registered as AIDS remedies

Ok you look like a DOCTOR to me!!
I am not a Doctor , so don't know how effective 'Receptol' is, and if at all that is allowed by the Indian Government as MEDICINE against HIV/AIDS!

Let's come to Ramdev Baba for this discussion :

since when we all turned communists ? so having a bank balance is evil ? and please substantiate your statement by giving us info about the invisible account of Ramdev.

hope you know there are entities called Trusts, there are trustees, we have laws governing those trusts and periodic auditing being done or are you one of those breed of Homo Ignoramus

No! Having a bank balance in NO evil. But,

1. To have huge amounts of unaccounted money is..... his right hand person "Acharya Balkrishna" holds all the business of Ramdev, his account is not up-to-date with the donations and other funds received on behalf of Baba Ramdev.

2. TRUST: It is very easy to say that Baba Ramdev runs a TRUST but do you know there are many kinds of TRUSTs in INDIA. (to clarify, Educational Trust, Mandir Trust, etc and all this have different rules and regulations)

3. A Trust is not entitled to take whatever it wants as DONATIONS. That fellow way seen taking donations from his followers at the Ramlila maiden that day. It is not the correct and lawful way of taking donations.

4. Regarding CANCER: Let him proof that in writing and let the world
recognize it as a CURE for such diseases first .

 

[Neuron]

Both Anulom-Vilom and Kapalbhati Pranayam are some kind of breathing exercises.How on earth are they supposed to cure cancer??

 

[baccilus]

Not possible, cancer is not a disease, its caused by mutation of genes in cells, specially the genes that are responsible for controlling the growth and multiplication of cells, yoga cannot undo this mutation, since cancer affected cells are cells from your own body and not foreign objects your bodies immunity will not fight against it normally, so it(tumors) grow unchecked, scientists are trying to modify our immunity system so they can isolate cancer cells and attack them only, which had proved to be unsuccessful so far, I believe in yoga(not like ramdev invented it, its been in the indian culture like forever) but it will not cure cancer, it will cure gastritis, ulcers(worked for my father, cured his gastric ulcer) etc but can not cure cancer or aids.

Some basics about cancer:
Every cell in the body has a mechanism to check uncontrolled cell division. Cancer cells loose that mechanism due to mutation or even due to some latent viral infections. As soon as a cell turns into a Cancer cell, the markers on it's surface change and it becomes susceptible to body's own immune cells (NK cells). Unfortunately, this mechanisms fails too in case of cancer, or sometimes is just not fast enough.

Can yoga cure cancer?
No idea. I don't think a proper study has been conducted in this regard till now.

 

[The Conqueror]

Both Anulom-Vilom and Kapalbhati Pranayam are some kind of breathing exercises.How on earth are they supposed to cure cancer??

Quality Breathing can rejuvenate your life, particularly your "cells".