Have a config in mind,suggest something if you have something better in mind.

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Jripper

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Hola fellas (and felli's too),
Ok here's the deal.After a long hard 3 years without a dedicated GPU,m finally planning on buying one this may.
Trouble is...I have around 19k and some other parts need to be bought as well.
My current config is:-
Core2duo E4400 (2Ghz)
1 GB DDR2 RAM Kingston(800 Mhz)
Intel original DG965RY motherboard
Seagate 7200.12 500GB HDD
Frontech PSU @450 watts
And an LG optical drive that is busted. :\

I know my processor and motherboard is outdated(RAM is too,but it will do for now).
M planning on buying an Ati HD5770.Thing is that the upcoming GTX 470 is said to be priced at 15k..
Anyways,the required tthings to be bought are:-
Items My pick
1)A new PSU Zebronics 600W @ 3.2k
2)A dvd writer LG @1.1k
3)1GB DDR2 RAM Kingston @ 1.2k
4)A new cabinet Anything around 1.6k(coolermaster elite 310)
5)GPU 5770 @ 9-10k or (waiting+Gtx 470 xD) or a 5850 if I can get it for 12k

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If you guys have anything better in mind pur-leez let me know.
I do hope the GPU does ok wid my motherboard and processor combo. :\
I guess there will be some bottlenecking,but it can't be helped.I simply cannot upgrade my CPU and motherboard this year if I want the stuff above. :\
Have to wait till next year.
BTW does bottlenecking damage a GPU?? :O
 
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Jripper said:
Hola fellas (and felli's too),
Ok here's the deal.After a long hard 3 years without a dedicated GPU,m finally planning on buying one this may.
Trouble is...I have around 19k and some other parts need to be bought as well.
My current config is:-
Core2duo E4400 (2Ghz)
1 GB DDR2 RAM Kingston(800 Mhz)
Intel original DG965RY motherboard
Seagate 7200.12 500GB HDD
Frontech PSU @450 watts
And an LG optical drive that is busted. :\

I know my processor and motherboard is outdated(RAM is too,but it will do for now).
M planning on buying an Ati HD5770.Thing is that the upcoming GTX 470 is said to be priced at 15k..
Anyways,the required tthings to be bought are:-
Items My pick
1)A new PSU Zebronics 600W @ 3.2k
2)A dvd writer LG @1.1k
3)1GB DDR2 RAM Kingston @ 1.2k
4)A new cabinet Anything around 1.6k(coolermaster elite 310)
5)GPU 5770 @ 9-10k or (waiting+Gtx 470 xD) or a 5850 if I can get it for 12k
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well your pc old. so i will suggest better sell it off. & get a new config all together. else it'll seriously bottleneck the graphics card. look at this config:

Processor: Athlon II X3 425 2.7GHz: 3.7k
Motherboard: Biostar TA785G A3+: 3.7k or TA785G3 HD: 4.3k
Ram: Transcend 2Gb DDR3-1333Mhz C9: 2.5k
Hard Disk: use from your old rig.
Graphics Card: Sapphire HD5750 1GB GDDR5: 8.2k
Optical Drives: LG 22X SATA DVD-RW: 1.1k
PSU: FSP Saga II 400W: 2.1k
Cabinet: reuse old cabby.

Total: 21.8k (considering the latter mobo). get the extra 2.8k by selling your existing pc. hows it?

I simply cannot upgrade my CPU and motherboard this year if I want the stuff above. :\
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i think now u can upgrade your pc "simply" :razz:

BTW does bottlenecking damage a GPU?? :O
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never heard of such a thing, but surely damages mood. when the game you awaiting to play for long starts lagging.
 
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Jripper

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Hmm..well thats definitely an option you stated,However,the reason I said that I couldn't upgrade my CPU and GPU this year was that I was planning to upgrade those next year. xDD

Was planning on an i5-i7 based rig as prices would surely drop by then. :\(As m not too aware of Amd based mobo+processor configs).
So...with that in mind,do ya think that I should still sell the PC this year and buy d one u mentoned??Or should I deal wid bottlenecking for a few months and then match the 5770/5850/GTX470(whatever) with an i5-i7??

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BTW thank yuo for suggesting the alternative. :) appreciate it. \m/
 
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Jripper

Pro/An---tagonist xD
BTW can anyone tell what is the price of a phenom quad core??
Is it compatible with every chipset(i mean the 785 platform)?
Recommend a mobo for a phenom quad core please.
 
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Jripper said:
Hmm..well thats definitely an option you stated,However,the reason I said that I couldn't upgrade my CPU and GPU this year was that I was planning to upgrade those next year. xDD

Was planning on an i5-i7 based rig as prices would surely drop by then. :\(As m not too aware of Amd based mobo+processor configs).
So...with that in mind,do ya think that I should still sell the PC this year and buy d one u mentoned??Or should I deal wid bottlenecking for a few months and then match the 5770/5850/GTX470(whatever) with an i5-i7??

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BTW thank yuo for suggesting the alternative. :) appreciate it. \m/
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no problem buddy.

actually i thought its better you completely change the rig & get a balance rig. rather than a pc which puts more weight in graphics department.

i5's price won't decrease too much. very less chance. Next year Sandy Bridge coming & subsequently AMD may release some other solution. so i'll say what you plan to buy buy now rather than waiting.

an X3 + 2Gb DDR3 ram (later add 2Gb more) + HD5770 will be best solution for you. low cost but average gaming pc that will last few years.

Jripper said:
BTW can anyone tell what is the price of a phenom quad core??
Is it compatible with every chipset(i mean the 785 platform)?
Recommend a mobo for a phenom quad core please.
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if you into gaming, you better of considering Athlon II X4 or maybe X3. add the rest of the money in getting as powerful a graphics card as you can afford anyhow. & OC it after 2yrs when games demand more cpu power.

yes all phenoms (athlons same way) are compatible. just check the motherboard support processor having TDP of 125W (140W will be better).

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minimum is Biostar TA785G A3+. but it supports 125W only. if you can spend 5.5k i suggest you get this: MSI 785G-E53 @ 5.5k. very good mobo. full ATX & if OC friendly.
 
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Jripper

Pro/An---tagonist xD
Ok...thanks yet again.
So...for a combined budget of 9k for mobo+processor.
Say I get a MSI 785G-E53 @ 5.5k.Are there any Athlon II X4's for 4k??
And will this mobo support other AMD processors in the near future(I mean the 790 chipset is already here after all.)??
Hate to nag so many times,but m nearly blind concerning AMD mobo and proccy's. X__x.

I need the CPU+mobo to last for atleast 2 years untill the next upgrade. :|

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Guess I'll have to do with an athlon II X3 425 for now. :|
 
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Jripper said:
Ok...thanks yet again.
So...for a combined budget of 9k for mobo+processor.
Say I get a MSI 785G-E53 @ 5.5k.Are there any Athlon II X4's for 4k??
And will this mobo support other AMD processors in the near future(I mean the 790 chipset is already here after all.)??
Hate to nag so many times,but m nearly blind concerning AMD mobo and proccy's. X__x.

I need the CPU+mobo to last for atleast 2 years untill the next upgrade. :|

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Guess I'll have to do with an athlon II X3 425 for now. :|
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it happens. cause Intels base is much more here than AMD. also many ppls stay away from AMD cause their last 2-3 generation products were nothing but flops. super flops.

well, get the MSI 785GM E53. its good mobo. support 140W proccy so you not need change mobo. for proccy, consider X3. may try your luck unlock to X4 or may even unlock the 6Mb L3 cache. yes its possible. with X3, you may get 4th core or L3 cache or maybe both.

well i have read almost all the reviews of Athlon X4's (620 & 630 mainly) that are put forward by review sites. according to Tom's Hardware, X3 better gaming cpu than X4. cause it got higher clock speed & 3 cores. so if a game wants more speed, it delivers. more cores, yes it still delivers. best of both words. get it without doubt.
 
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Jripper

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Okies boss.
xDD

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BTW what about these two motherboards??
Biostar TA785G A3+: 3.7k and TA785G3 HD: 4.3k
I mean what is their overclocking ease,TDP rating and form factor??

Since I am on a tight budget,I may have to consider one of these.
 
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Jripper said:
Okies boss.
xDD

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BTW what about these two motherboards??
Biostar TA785G A3+: 3.7k and TA785G3 HD: 4.3k
I mean what is their overclocking ease,TDP rating and form factor??

Since I am on a tight budget,I may have to consider one of these.
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TA785G3+ is not good. better consider TA785G3 HD. it got future upgrade headroom & got some OC potential. it cost 4.3k usually & look cool.

TA785G3+: 125W. only 2 DIMM slots & mATX.

TA785G3 HD: 140W. 4 DIMM slots & mATX.
 
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Jripper

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About the CPU.
A shop in chandni called technocrat was offering me an athlon II X3 425 for 3450 and they also had an athlon IIX3 435 for 3700.
Which one is better??
Does the 435 have a hidden core/cache as well?
They were offering an MSI 785G-E53 for 4450 and 2 GB transcend RAM for 2950! :O
 
comp@ddict

comp@ddict

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Does the 435 have a hidden core/cache as well?
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The X3 435 2.9GHz mostly unlocks to a X4, yes so what u get is a X4 635 2.9GHz for free.. In some rare occasions, u can get a Phenom II X4 with 6MB cache(that u hav to be lucky!!!!)

For gaming with a HD5770, this CPU is superb.

As for the GPU buy this:-

MSI HD5770 HAWK 1GB GDDR5 @ 10.2k - GET THIS!!!!
 
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comp@ddict said:
The X3 435 2.9GHz mostly unlocks to a X4, yes so what u get is a X4 635 2.9GHz for free.. In some rare occasions, u can get a Phenom II X4 with 6MB cache(that u hav to be lucky!!!!)
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you missed something. acc to u:

1st option: 4th core unlocked.
2nd option: 4th core + L3 cache unlocked.

however theres a 3rd option as well.
3rd option: L3 cache unlocked. Phenom II X3. 3 way lottery. 1 is sure shot.
 
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Jripper said:
About the CPU.
A shop in chandni called technocrat was offering me an athlon II X3 425 for 3450 and they also had an athlon IIX3 435 for 3700.
Which one is better??
Does the 435 have a hidden core/cache as well?
They were offering an MSI 785G-E53 for 4450 and 2 GB transcend RAM for 2950! :O
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435 is better and it focuses on gaming
and 1 bad news
AMD is now making x3 in such a way that the buyer can not unlock the 4th core and neither l3 cache memory
sorry for that:-(
 
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piyush120290 said:
435 is better and it focuses on gaming
and 1 bad news
AMD is now making x3 in such a way that the buyer can not unlock the 4th core and neither l3 cache memory
sorry for that:-(
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WHAT? damn. how you know about it? any link? as far as i heard, 890GX or simply 8 series chipset from AMD won't support ACC so basically no unlocking. however board manufacturers are including some features (spell switches) to assist user unlock the hidden cores & L3 caches. easier solution? get any 7 series board that got support for ACC.
 
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