iMav said:ok here we go again with the security blah blah how many times have we to discuss the same old windows is not secure mummy bachao crap ....
rocket357 said:Is that not the claim of this entire thread? Read the title and whine some more about security issues...
If it upsets you, go read some other thread.
Honestly, if I posted that Toyota makes the finest luxury automobile on the planet, I'd get flamed, too.gx_saurav said:Tell me something, what are you trying to prove here?
Because it takes a reasonable amount of intellectual horsepower to use BSD/Linux, and the communities surrounding them aren't keen on whiners. If you're willing to help yourself, then those communities will bend over backwards to assist...but if you come at it like a typical Windows home user, you'll get laughed at.gx_saurav said:Well, if they have such a solid code, such a solid back end, then why don't we see them competing with Linux or Windows in Desktop space?
Therein lies the rub. But look at the title of this thread and you tell me if security is irrelevant *to the context of this discussion*. I didn't see ANYTHING in the title concerning "user security"...gx_saurav said:Why do u think MS & Windows dominates in Desktop space? Thats because most of the home users are not Ex-KGB or M16 Employees, & Don't give much damn to security.
1) depends on if the hardware manufacturer has released specs to the OpenBSD team (if it works in Linux, there's no excuse).gx_saurav said:You are talking about the security of BSD. I ask you a few things
1) Will BSD work with my Webcam or SE K750i?
2) Will it let me play & rip my HD DVD/DVD/DivX
3) Will it run Microsoft office?
4) Will it let me use the computer my way?
Thank you for pointing this out...I get the distinct impression that some individuals here aren't listening to me (dunno why...it's a security debate, or at least that's what I thought)...kalpik said:^^ For god's sake, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE _READ_ the thread title!!
Vista is still the most secure OS to date.
1) Will BSD work with my Webcam or SE K750i?
2) Will it let me play & rip my HD DVD/DVD/DivX
3) Will it run Microsoft office?
4) Will it let me use the computer my way?
din said:@rocket357
Man, guess what ? Your post is nice. If you go through the top few threads in this section you can see very nice (oops, 'friendly' too) fight between Win / Lin / Mac guys. The Win team get a lot of time, so they post more, Lin guys post replies but not much , Mac guys very lil.
In short most threads go to win-lin-mac fight but that also not in a healthy manner.
And most threads goes very biased and one-sided, so its nice to see some posts differ from that trend.
Anyway, I am reading your post at 11.30 night and I think I didn't waste my time at all. Thank you.
iMav said:mummy bachao windows is not secure ... mummy bachao ... some 1's got a problem with the claims of the source go fight with em .... coz we have done this so many times and every time the OSS/MAC hav got their arse whooped and stopped posting until some new 1 comes around
hey gx be careful man ... windows is not secure some 1 might hack into ur machine or leave a worm or something and steal ur secret reciepe for staying fit
if some 1 doesnt know how to use an OS its not the OS's fault
praka123 said:You dont know how sick it is here.some M$ user will post such a blog quote from somewhere and there we started.they want to tell that Vista is the next thing to GOD.may be u can be there in Open Source better and most pragmatic and lenient people knows what you are telling is reality.but spoonfed from their earlier computer days with windows is-what I use is better ideology(or what gui am familiar is the best) much more stronger.I ended up with another topic(DRM-n vista) when i tried letting them know the reality.even another guy quoted my post from another mag forum just to defend Vista where i just pointed out Linux kernel *may* be not the best-but bsd may be.
if u watch tech news section,weekly some "Get the facts" like posts from the visionaries.
Ahh, someone sees my point...sakumar79 said:@imav, the question is not whether Vista is secure or not... We all know that Vista is a very secure OS so far... But the topic posted says Vista is the most secure OS to date... That is not correct...
Arun
which most hardware vendors don't give a damn about , so most "new" user products don't work on Linux/Unix/BSD.rocket357 said:1) depends on if the hardware manufacturer has released specs
Seriously , are you trying to Compare Windows Media Player 11 to MPlayer . MPlayer is good , but WMP 11 is a lot more than a media player and has excellent media management capabilities . And with the K-Lite Codec Pack installed , MPlayer is no way near WMP 11 .rocket357 said:2) Are you reading my posts? I stated earlier that I watch movies all the time (check out the MPlayer project).
see , you're telling my feelings .praka123 said:Vista is the next thing to GOD
This thread isn't abt the hardware vendors giving driver support, neither there is a popularity contest and OS hasn't been classified by the MS mercenary that created the source of this thread!! Can't u read simple English?which most hardware vendors don't give a damn about , so most "new" user products don't work on Linux/Unix/BSD.
Seriously, did u read the post of ur fellow musketeer from ur grp the "3musketeer" before starting comparisons again? I know how great WMP is that it cant even play ISO files click and play like Mplayer does by default!!Seriously , are you trying to Compare Windows Media Player 11 to MPlayer . MPlayer is good , but WMP 11 is a lot more than a media player and has excellent media management capabilities . And with the K-Lite Codec Pack installed , MPlayer is no way near WMP 11 .
I guess u shud tell this to the fellow who created the source and advice MS which has spreadng FUD as its hobby!!Every software has it's advantages and flaws and everyone is free to use whatever they like , but just don't rant
Yes , it does not play ISO files coz it's meant to play Media files and ISO files r specialized data files that contain media files , so u can mount an ISO file and en play it normally using WMP .mediator said:Seriously, did u read the post of ur fellow musketeer from ur grp the "3musketeer" before starting comparisons again? I know how great WMP is that it cant even play ISO files click and play like Mplayer does by default!!
rocket357 said:Yeah, I saw that rant a few of the Windoze kiddies had about your DRM jaunt. Sad part is, a topic that comes up repeatedly is how Windows allows users to "use their computers how they want", but what they don't realize is that Microsoft is placing DRM there as a method of control.
I don't run some generic "compiled for maximum bloat" crap that you typically see in "user friendly" distros...I run a stripped down and lean gentoo install. I compile the kernel for MY hardware...not for portability or compatibility.
mediator said:Seriously, did u read the post of ur fellow musketeer from ur grp the "3musketeer" before starting comparisons again? I know how great WMP is that it cant even play ISO files click and play like Mplayer does by default!!
gx_saurav said:My Fellow ignorant forum member, mind telling us here whether ISO is one of the most widely used Media format out there or not.? Mind telling us how u ge ISO files (piracy)? Mind telling us, how mplayer plays ISO files without mounting
Oh, well....it doesn't, mplayer does something which in WMP the user has to do manually. Mount the ISO. Sorry, Windows Media Player cannot support a piracy format to play video like this.
one question: does winrar/winiso/isobuster etc. need to mount an iso file to view its contents??!!!gx_saurav said:how mplayer plays ISO files without mounting
i make iso images then vcds/dvds of the videos i capture from my handycam. this feature is utmost useful to me.. when am in windows i use VLC to read/play the same. now temme how is my video collection pirated??? jus' hafing eyecandy in media player doesn't make it better. i find media library of winamp more usable than in media player. but then its my personal opinion.gx_saurav said:Windows Media Player cannot support a piracy format to play video like this.
sorry i'm not that well versed wid vista's in built handling of iso files. in xp i either had to install the powertoy or some 3rd party utility like daemon tools or nero/roxio package to create a virtual drive and mount iso. i dunno if vista supports out of the box iso mounting. plz enlighten me.gx_saurav said:.......which in WMP the user has to do manually. Mount the ISO.
haha.. sounds like official WMP FAQ and as if Windows Media Player is your product and you are the one deciding on its features!!!!gx_saurav said:Sorry, Windows Media Player cannot support a piracy format to play video like this.