ssk_the_gr8
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i3 + HD4000 will rock for you ssk_the_gr8
I know but I can't find one laptop that is for me, 14", 4gb ram, no discrete graphics + 3 year warranty for under 35k
I know but I can't find one laptop that is for me, 14", 4gb ram, no discrete graphics + 3 year warranty for under 35k
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keep an eye on Samsung's offerings. Asus, HP will always bundle a low-mid GPU.
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which OS? 64 or 32? download the correct version of CPU_Z. else try the installation method.
2nd or 3rd, processing power is almost same.
what's wrong with these
HP 430 - QG623PA Laptop: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review HP Notebook
Dell Inspiron 14 2nd Gen Ci5/ 4GB/ 500GB/ DOS Laptop: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review Dell Notebook
Sony VAIO E Series VPCEG35EN Laptop: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review Sony Notebook
Dell Vostro 3450 2nd Gen Ci3/ 2 GB/ 500 GB/ Linux: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review Dell Notebook
no manufactrurer will give you 3 years warranty you will have to buy it seperately . I read Sony was giving 3yr warranty for 2.5 k chk that out.
the config you require has the most options chk it out
Laptops In Price Range Rs.25000 - Rs.35000 India: Laptops Price List India: Flipkart.com
but still do not go for them now . You will get i3 3rd gen , 4 gb , 500gb , 14 inch for 28k easily add 5 to 6 k for 2yr additional warranty .
^the difference is of igp intel hd 3000 vs intel hd 4000 and it should be more power effecient than 2nd gen
hd 4000 is 30 to 50 % more powerful than hd 3000 . Other than that just the tag 3rd gen vs 2nd gen
but still its worth it because 3rd gen will be available at same or less price than 2nd gen.
hd 4000 is 30 to 50 % more powerful than hd 3000 . Other than that just the tag 3rd gen vs 2nd gen
but still its worth it because 3rd gen will be available at same or less price than 2nd gen.
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Re: Ordered Mine tonight!!!
640M is too good for Trinity to match as of now. It just edges out 630M. Expect it to give 635M a good competition after drivers get more mature.
Less price? Opposite actually.
640M is too good for Trinity to match as of now. It just edges out 630M. Expect it to give 635M a good competition after drivers get more mature.
Less price? Opposite actually.
Re: Ordered Mine tonight!!!
now pay me that extra money i'll buy a amd a10 HA HA ...!!
HP 2000 2116TU Laptop 3rd Gen Ci5/2GB/500GB/DOS: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review HP Notebook
3rd gen are cheaper because they do not offer any more performance than 2nd gen and are cheaper to manufacture 22nm( 3rd gen ) vs 32 nm( 2nd gen)
they are actually quite cheaper but we wont feel much difference because the gain is compensated by loss in rupee against dollar
at the time of 2nd gen launch
1 $ was equal to 45 - 46 rs
now it is 55 rs
and regarding igp gains
NO one buys intel for igp who has heard about " AMD " even if they give same performance as amd because of their driver support ( intel suck big time in this department google it.. )
and mainly because of their difference in image quality
there is a lot of difference
intel sacrifices image quality to gain higher fps in games ( google it )
but in ivy bridge they have improved their image quality a lot
driver support remains to be seen
having said that ivy bridge is still a good option as it gives very fast cpu with a good igpu
whereas amd gives balance between cpu , gpu and battery
now pay me that extra money i'll buy a amd a10 HA HA ...!!
HP 2000 2116TU Laptop 3rd Gen Ci5/2GB/500GB/DOS: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review HP Notebook
3rd gen are cheaper because they do not offer any more performance than 2nd gen and are cheaper to manufacture 22nm( 3rd gen ) vs 32 nm( 2nd gen)
they are actually quite cheaper but we wont feel much difference because the gain is compensated by loss in rupee against dollar
at the time of 2nd gen launch
1 $ was equal to 45 - 46 rs
now it is 55 rs
and regarding igp gains
NO one buys intel for igp who has heard about " AMD " even if they give same performance as amd because of their driver support ( intel suck big time in this department google it.. )
and mainly because of their difference in image quality
there is a lot of difference
intel sacrifices image quality to gain higher fps in games ( google it )
but in ivy bridge they have improved their image quality a lot
driver support remains to be seen
having said that ivy bridge is still a good option as it gives very fast cpu with a good igpu
whereas amd gives balance between cpu , gpu and battery
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Who told you this ? I guess its opposite.
And nothing like 3rd gen are cheaper, the model you quoted is without OS, plus only 2GB RAM. fill the gap and it will be 40k. Now compare it with second gen counterparts.
read the first two paragraphs
Review: Intel Core i5-3570K (22nm Ivy Bridge) - CPU - HEXUS.net
and you can search on google also
and regarding laptop
what are your views on this
HP ProBook 4530s (2nd Gen Core i5) Laptop: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review HP Notebook
and this
Dell Inspiron 15 2nd Gen Ci5/ 4GB/ 500GB/ DOS Laptop: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review Dell Notebook
both are without windows
though hp is a premium designed laptop but 4000 rs extra for design and 5400 rpm vs 7200 rpm
i know dell one has 2 gb ram additional but that hardly costs you 600 rs even if you add that it is still same or cheaper as the dell one has i5 that has lower clock speed than hp 2000 ( 2.3 to 2.9 vs 2.5 vs 3.1 in turbo) as it is was launched a while ago so prices have come down and hp is new
and don't forget that dollar point
by cheaper i mean the launch price compare launch price of 2nd gen i5 with launch price of i5 3rd gen
and of course they have cut prices on i5 2nd gen so that they could sell left out stock
and dont compare hp with models of samsung and asus as then samsung, asus have lower prices than hp , dell , sony
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They just guessed it, no concrete proof.
Don't compare probook with Inspiron please.
i am not comparing probook with inspiron i was comparing
hp 2000 vs probook
and
hp 2000 vs inspiron ( this is a valid comparison )
you posted before i could edit my post read it again what i am saying
and i told you to google it
from techradar
" What, then, is the point of Ivy Bridge and does it have anything to offer? For Intel, it looks like a winner. Those smaller 22nm transistors are much smaller than the current 32nm sort, so Ivy Bridge chips will be cheaper to make. With prices staying the same, say hello to fatter margins and bigger profits"
*www.techradar.com/news/computing/pc/lack-of-competition-is-changing-intels-priorities-1073086
and moreover this is based on moores law
quote fromw wikipedia
*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law
"Density at minimum cost per transistor. This is the formulation given in Moore's 1965 paper.[2] It is not just about the density of transistors that can be achieved, but about the density of transistors at which the cost per transistor is the lowest.[23] As more transistors are put on a chip, the cost to make each transistor decreases"
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Try getting a 15"6 thinkpad and then compare the cost. You will know the answer.
You can't compare costs across models like this.
Discussion over.
You can't compare costs across models like this.
Discussion over.
follow the lines of techradar in above post and i am no tech student so cannot explain you should read review of ivy bridge on anandtech.com they know everything and have explained clearly
regarding two thinkpads you wont be able to compare why because there are other factors like in last year laptops bluetooth 3.0 , 5400r
pm were standard but with this year they will be like 4.0 , 7200rpm
and warranty hp last year was giving limited onsite vs accidental damage this year and last year high end model becomes low end in this year 2450m vs 3210m
if not cheap then they should be available at same or marginally high price but they will be cheaper to produce ( WIKIPEDIA ) see above post
anyways it was a good discussion hopefully helps someone
thanks for the time
good night
regarding two thinkpads you wont be able to compare why because there are other factors like in last year laptops bluetooth 3.0 , 5400r
pm were standard but with this year they will be like 4.0 , 7200rpm
and warranty hp last year was giving limited onsite vs accidental damage this year and last year high end model becomes low end in this year 2450m vs 3210m
if not cheap then they should be available at same or marginally high price but they will be cheaper to produce ( WIKIPEDIA ) see above post
anyways it was a good discussion hopefully helps someone
thanks for the time
good night
skeletor
Chosen of the Omnissiah
Re: Ordered Mine tonight!!!
For a foundry it takes billions to implement a die shrink, and they "recoup" that by pricing products accordingly. And in the beginning yields are never good. Manufacturing gets cheaper over time when yields start to be good.
You're right on the idea behind every die shrink. Reduce die size. Fit more in a waffer and make manufacturing cheaper. But the thing is it isn't a rosy scenario these days. (It is faar more difficult and expensive to go from 32nm to 22nm than it was 90nm to 65nm or 65 nm to 45 nm back in the day.)
For a foundry it takes billions to implement a die shrink, and they "recoup" that by pricing products accordingly. And in the beginning yields are never good. Manufacturing gets cheaper over time when yields start to be good.
You're right on this.