Trinity laptops are here

[rish1]

sam i mean which brand should one prefer asus or hp
rest everything same battery , performance ,

i want to know the difference between hp and asus on other parameters like
brand value , service , hp heating vs bad screen of asus ( just assume you get same x53ta screen in new model)

and strange in this forum there is no thanks/rep button . anyways thanks guys for answering so quickly and clearing my doubts ulta excited to get my first lappy

if dollar prices wouldn't have been so high this would have been a lotttttttttt sweeter

 

[dashing.sujay]

^Depends on how good model they launch. There is no dictionary which defines either has better.

 

[Games Goblin]

Ordered Mine tonight!!!

Guys, I placed my order for the G6-2005AX on flipkart tonight! My eyes nearly popped out after seeing this listing on FK tonight, as I was about to buy the K53 today! To those who have been following my thread, I told that I ordered the X53TA from snap deal a couple of days back, well a lot of things happened since then and I have updated the events in that thread

 

[coderunknown]

first trinity (future) owner of ThinkDigit Forum, eh !!!
i'll bug you once you have the laptop. need to fill a few vacant info in my decision sheet.

 

[Games Goblin]

first trinity (future) owner of ThinkDigit Forum, eh !!!
i'll bug you once you have the laptop. need to fill a few vacant info in my decision sheet.

No problemo Sam! I'll post a detailed review after putting it through it's paces!

 

[sandynator]

@Games Goblin
Will appreciate a detailed review from your end.

@all
As per one of the Asus distributor Trinity notebooks to be expected by July 2012

 

[AnkushExplores]

there are/was a few but all are overpriced. Samsung NP305E4A-S02IN but the graphics combo is weak. though one gets some other goodies (1TB HDD & W7 HP).

Asus X43TA-VX052D was one but entered late and sold out way too fast



actually this is the wrong time of the year to buy laptops. Sure you'll find exciting deal with 2nd gen i5 + GT630M but if you can wait there should be even better deal. Specially similar priced config but with better display and keyboard. As i think you have already read that most sub-40k Asus laptops have poor screen.

Also it depends on your budget. A8/A10 based laptops won't sell properly if priced ridiculously high (above 35k) and as your budget is above 40k, wait for i3/i5 with better graphics (GT630 is no longer a fast GPU). Though you may have to wait, it should be worth it. And battery life varies from laptop to laptop. I have seen APU set record for best battery and break record for worst battery life

Totally agree with this guy! This is so the wrong time! If any of you are planning to buy a new laptop, hold on for a while. Not only that the APUs and IVB are coming, there is rising greater demand for the ultrabook phenomenon, as you all must be seeing it being very aggressively marketed by Intel. This is surely going to create a big of chunk of people to go for the bait, even when that's not actually what they need.

Even more, the prices of the "conventional" form factor of laptop is obvious to go down. And this will happen within the comping couple of months. And eventually, the prices of ultrabook will also come down, but that's not going to happen in the near future (an year or so) since everyone (read, companies) will be cashing on this new cow. So, wait for a while, and get more value for your money with the new installments of IvyBridge processors.

Also, the price point of Trinity should be even lower than the current trend, since they are not a direct competition to IVB in terms of CPU power. Where they excel is actually visual processing and gaming, something a standalone 2nd Gen Core i3 & i5 have been poor at. I think the Trinity should be launched more in form factors below 14", where it makes sense as portable multimedia hub complimented with great battery life, since power users will certainly not opt for AMD APUs.

So, if you are planning on a new laptop, and even not considering the AMD Trinity/Fusion platform, it'll pay you to hold your horses for a while, at least for a month.

 

[far]

Re: Ordered Mine tonight!!!

Guys, I placed my order for the G6-2005AX on flipkart tonight! that thread

AMD A8 quad core is = 3rd gen i3 , i5 or i7 ?..

If it is... I might as well mully on this one... rather than spending 45~50k for 3rd gen...

ideas ?

 

[rish1]

Re: Ordered Mine tonight!!!

^ at stock clocks
amd a8 4500m is equal to i3 2nd/3rd gen
amd a10 4600m is in between i3 and i5 2nd/3rd gen

i wrote 2nd and 3rd gen because there is not much diff btwn 2nd nd 3rd gen intel

and if trinity also have the capability to overclock it will kick intel apart

cause amd llano a6 in asus x53ta overclocked at 3.0 ghz was equivalent to i7 1st generation and better than i5 2nd gen

overclock or not it is more than what you are paying for in cpu it gives performance of a laptop of 30k intel and in gpu xfire gives u performance of 60 k laptops at price of 30k.

guys see this trinity was launched in russia first look at these

Íîóòáóê HP Pavilion g6-2055er (AMD A8-4500M/750ÃÁ/HD 7670M) êóïèòå äåøåâëå! Õàðàêòåðèñòèêè HP Pavilion g6-2055er, îòçûâû ïîëüçîâàòåëåé è ëó÷øèå íèçêèå öåíû íà HP Pavilion g6-2055er - ïîñìîòðåòü îáçîð è îïèñàíèå HP Pavilion g6-2055er (14629) íà ïîðòàë

and

Íîóòáóê HP Pavilion g6-2054er (AMD A10-4600M/1000ÃÁ/HD 7670M) êóïèòå äåøåâëå! Õàðàêòåðèñòèêè HP Pavilion g6-2054er, îòçûâû ïîëüçîâàòåëåé è ëó÷øèå íèçêèå öåíû íà HP Pavilion g6-2054er - ïîñìîòðåòü îáçîð è îïèñàíèå HP Pavilion g6-2054er (14627) íà ïîðò

look at the price the difference between a8 g6 and a10 g6 after conversion is rs 1500 and keep in mind a10 g6 has 2gb extra ram and 360 gb hdd extra

so if we estimate at flipkart a8 is 32667 even if we add rs 2000 you will get a10 for 34667

and we know fk has gone mad and is selling for rs 2000 higher than other sites ( g6 1313ax at fk for 32700 and at saholic.com for 30677). So you can get a10 for 34667 - 2000 = 32667 from other sites or local dealer.

a10 + 7670 m xfired score is 2053 in 3dmark11 equal to latest gt650m

ofcourse price is an estimation but highly possible..

keep in mind xfire may suffer from micro stutter but is resolvd generally through driver updates and xfire in reality may or may not perform as expected .

 

[coderunknown]

Re: Ordered Mine tonight!!!

AMD A8 quad core is = 3rd gen i3 , i5 or i7 ?..

clock to clock yes but remember AMD has 2 problem: low clockspeed (cause its a quad) and AMD turbo is far from perfect. Llano's turbo core was a big joke. i don't see much use of turbo here too.

i5 + a proper GPU (GT640M at least) will be lot better than this laptop if you are ready to pay the premium. and should deliver better battery life. with this laptop you get exactly what you pay for. fast HDD, fast ram (helps the fGPU), bag, Chicklet keyboard, genuine windows, better display and a GPU that can run game. so its definitely VFM but still if you have budget, go for better lappy.

cause amd llano a6 in asus x53ta overclocked at 3.0 ghz was equivalent to i7 1st generation and better than i5 2nd gen

not that much. it was just faster than i3 at best. remember it was using K10 architecture.

guys see this trinity was launched in russia first look at these
Íîóòáóê HP Pavilion g6-2055er (AMD A8-4500M/750ÃÁ/HD 7670M) êóïèòå äåøåâëå! Õàðàêòåðèñòèêè HP Pavilion g6-2055er, îòçûâû ïîëüçîâàòåëåé è ëó÷øèå íèçêèå öåíû íà HP Pavilion g6-2055er - ïîñìîòðåòü îáçîð è îïèñàíèå HP Pavilion g6-2055er (14629) íà ïîðòàë
and
Íîóòáóê HP Pavilion g6-2054er (AMD A10-4600M/1000ÃÁ/HD 7670M) êóïèòå äåøåâëå! Õàðàêòåðèñòèêè HP Pavilion g6-2054er, îòçûâû ïîëüçîâàòåëåé è ëó÷øèå íèçêèå öåíû íà HP Pavilion g6-2054er - ïîñìîòðåòü îáçîð è îïèñàíèå HP Pavilion g6-2054er (14627) íà ïîðò

thanks for the link.

keep in mind xfire may suffer from micro stutter but is resolvd generally through driver updates and xfire in reality may or may not perform as expected .

lets hope AMD takes Fusion Xfire seriously this time. last time they simply ignored this part and offered almost no fix.

 

[kg11sgbg]

@all
As per one of the Asus distributor Trinity notebooks to be expected by July 2012

Very good news ,sandynator.
Any info about the ASUS distributor?Of course,must be in Mumbai.Every IT related products/whatsoever starts from there...
I stay in Kolkata.

 

[rish1]

Re: Ordered Mine tonight!!!

not that much. it was just faster than i3 at best. remember it was using K10 architecture.

sam see the benches for x53ta posted on other forums and review in flipkart

for x53ta
BENCHMARKS

3DMark

3D Mark 06 - CF off
Stock = 6530
8GB ram stock = 6692
2.4ghz/ 670/990 = 7995
2.6ghz/ 670/990 = 8235
2.6ghz/ 670/1040 = 8388
3ghz/ 670/1040 = 8532

3D Mark Vantage
2.3ghz / 8gb ram / stock GPU = P5465 / gpu=4977/ cpu=7745

3D Mark 11
Stock = P1372
8GB Stock = P1606
2.4ghz / 700/950 = P1560
2.3ghz w/8gb stock GPU = P1665
2.6ghz w/8GB/ 670/1040 = P1752

Heaven Dx11@1366x768 Stock = 17.1fps
Heaven Dx11@1366x768 2.4ghz / 700/950 OC = 19.2fps
Heaven Dx11@1366x768 2.3ghz + 8GB /GPU stock =19.8 fps

Passmark
CPU Mark
Stock = 3573
2.4ghz = 5560
2.7ghz = 6517
3ghz =7043

Cinebench 11.5
@ 2.4ghz
Open GL 13.16fps
CPU = 2.77
Single core = .77

@2.6ghz
CPU = 3.12

@3ghz
CPU =3.45

Mafia II Benchmark - this one doesn't like crossfire

1600 x 900 / High / CF off
2.4ghz = 27.8fps

1366 x 768 / High / CF off
2.4ghz = 34.8fps



compare it with i5 2nd gen eg. 2410m cinebench 11.5 is 2.6 and latest 2450 m has 2.7

while cpumark for 2450m was 3700

and you knw how taxing is bf3
ultra settings in action on 3 ghz

m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=olcz7DVXTkM&fulldescription=1

sorry m on mob so youtube link for mob

regarding xfire last time there was no support for dx9 games in xfire and most of the games at launch of llano was based on dx9 and when xfire when used in dx9 games resortd to igpu hence lowering performance and it got a misconception that it missfire/backfired

but trinity has support for dx9 games . How much xfire gives performance boost remains to be seen but at least wont backfire hopefully

 

[rajan1311]

someone please release a 14 incher with no discrete graphics and my money is yours

agreed :thumbsup:


adding discrete kinda defeats the purpose of having a strong IGP..i know u can crossfire them, but it aint that effective and you lose battery life and heat..

 

[sandynator]

Very good news ,sandynator.
Any info about the ASUS distributor?Of course,must be in Mumbai.Every IT related products/whatsoever starts from there...
I stay in Kolkata.

Ya he is frm Mumbai. I had a telephonic conversation with his sales representative at noon.

A 14" trinity without discrete graphics at the price of 2nd gen PDC will be selling like hot cakes.

If what he said comes out to be true then along with TRINITY we can also get a 7" GOOGLE TABLET frm ASUS in July itself

 

[ssk_the_gr8]

agreed :thumbsup:


adding discrete kinda defeats the purpose of having a strong IGP..i know u can crossfire them, but it aint that effective and you lose battery life and heat..

and I'm so sure that I'm not going to get something according my required specs

 

[dashing.sujay]

i3 + HD4000 will rock for you ssk_the_gr8

 

[Games Goblin]

^ Hi dashing.sujay,

I ran CPUZ on his comp and it won;t work - it's a AMD Turion x64 with DDR2! Ancient! But still manages to run Win 7 though...

Big update: got the refund from snap deal today - I'm totally relaxed now! Wait for the HP is nerve wracking!

 

[dashing.sujay]

^On which computer ?

And congrats for the refund, that was quick

 

[Games Goblin]

^On which computer ?

And congrats for the refund, that was quick

Whoops, i meant to post this in the other thread - oh well - I meant my bro's Toshiba- on which I was planning to put the 1333mhz ddr3. Refund was within the time they specified - at least they were honest on that -

Interesting to note that FK has listed the HP 1313 AX {Llano sabine A6} @ Rs. 32730 ; which is ~63 more than G6-2005AX

 

[dashing.sujay]

DDR2 has got nothing to do with Win 7 or Win 8.