The Lenovo Z500 with GT 740m thread

[rohitshubham]

^^ That is subject to argument... regular laptops dont usually have dedicated cooling solutions like gaming laptops have. If you see inside a ROG or alienware or even Toshiba or One, you will find two fans, two thermally independent heat dissipation modules and copper tubes running along both ends meeting with vents ( regular ones have one ), one for CPU and one for GPU.

Also the coolant paste for both processors they use is of better quality. So out of 5 3 of em regulars are prone to heating issues after some time...Not sure which model you had, but seems they had heating issues from the beginning not because of they were US made but because the cooling was not enough. (if manufactures thought, "ok its a cool country, give no s#!t about more cooling" then its THE stupidest idea they had)

well i had Toshiba way back in '97 with 64 Mb ram which was unheard of that time, it was of nearly 2Lacks :O. so, when it went down, we had to send it to kolkata for repair.
other one is Gateway NV53 in 2010. it is present, and the idle temperatures run at 60C. i have cleaned the heatsink and fan but of no use....and it has this prob from day one ..

 

[powerhoney]

I also feel that the laptops sold in USA heats up considerably more than the sold in INDIA. I am not sure about this though but i have had 2 laptops from US and both of them needed AC rooms other wise idle temps would be around 60-65C

My imported lappy doesn't heat up!!!

 

[rohitshubham]

My imported lappy doesn't heat up!!!

guess i am the bad luck brian here

 

[rohitshubham]

hey guys ,
I did the 3D marks test on my lappy.
and here are the results. How are these???
View attachment 11396
it looks nice enough... not much less than the 128 bit version. 5-10% lower approx. coz you see the values posted on notebook check are mainly of i7 processors so, they will definitely be higher.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachments/laptops-netbooks/11396d1374249297-lenovo-z500-gt-740m-thread-benchmark.png

 

[Ruben]

Scores are nice as it is just 8% slower than gt 650m and 5-6% faster than hd 7970m.and way ahead than the popular hd 7670m.
source:
AnandTech | 3DMark for Windows Launches; We Test It with Various Laptops

 

[rohitshubham]

hey, as far as i know the synthetic scores do not judge gaming performance and how does cloud gate, fire strike etc. scores depend.
bu you can see here that the fps registered here on the various games is ahead of these GPU's for e. 60FPS in grid 2 where as nootebookcheck confirms 52~53 FPS of 740m.

 

[sam_738844]

^^ dude, you have posted a review where 3D mark 2013 launches for windows, not a comparative analysis of GT740M, GT650M and 7970M (!!??) , forget 3D mark, there is no way in this universe a GT740M would be 5-6% faster than a 7970M, its the topline flagship GPU from AMD, look at the game performance below and expand the compare list, it competes with the GTX680Mand the like!

a GT740 is a entry level 7 series card! It cant even stand against a 7970M, the line up even is completely different. check below FPS ratings in recent games.

AMD Radeon HD 7970M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

 

[rohitshubham]

^^^ i don't think so
have you seen the FPS of 650m on grid 2?? it's 59.7 where as it gives 60fps on 740m on high settings. and oh yeah 59.7 FPS on a better cpu and GDDR5 version i guess DDR3 version doesn't stand a chance against 740m on GRID 2 atleast.

not to mention the enormous TDP and power consumtpion of 650m

 

[sam_738844]

^^^ i don't think so
have you seen the FPS of 650m on grid 2?? it's 59.7 where as it gives 60fps on 740m on high settings. and oh yeah 59.7 FPS on a better cpu and GDDR5 version i guess DDR3 version doesn't stand a chance against 740m on GRID 2 atleast.

not to mention the enormous TDP and power consumtpion of 650m

Notebook check says it gives 52.9FPS at high, yes of course with a better CPU, but as you might know CPU will have little to do in case of GPU heavy titles such as bioshock infinite

high: 27.4 31.3 41.9 ~ 34 fps GT740M
high: 44.9 51.1 ~ 48 fps GT650M

and this time the 740M was tested with a haswell Intel Core i7 4500U 1.8 GHz with less TDP
and the intel Core i7 3610QM 2.3 GHz which has high power consumption

Point is, when a GT740M can come with a better CPU, GT650 will always perform better with the same CPU. Also i was talking about the comparison made with 7970M which was very funny

 

[RON28]

Scores are nice as it is just 8% slower than gt 650m and 5-6% faster than hd 7970m.and way ahead than the popular hd 7670m.
source:

 

[rohitshubham]

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11451&stc=1*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachments/laptops-netbooks/11447d1374497511-lenovo-z500-gt-740m-thread-prototype2-2013-07-22-17-59-18-07.jpg*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachments/laptops-netbooks/11445d1374497482-lenovo-z500-gt-740m-thread-prototype2-2013-07-22-17-58-59-00.jpg*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachments/laptops-netbooks/11446d1374497484-lenovo-z500-gt-740m-thread-prototype2-2013-07-22-17-58-40-31.jpg

Notebook check says it gives 52.9FPS at high, yes of course with a better CPU, but as you might know CPU will have little to do in case of GPU heavy titles such as bioshock infinite

high: 27.4 31.3 41.9 ~ 34 fps GT740M
high: 44.9 51.1 ~ 48 fps GT650M

and this time the 740M was tested with a haswell Intel Core i7 4500U 1.8 GHz with less TDP
and the intel Core i7 3610QM 2.3 GHz which has high power consumption

Point is, when a GT740M can come with a better CPU, GT650 will always perform better with the same CPU. Also i was talking about the comparison made with 7970M which was very funny

It's obvious that 650m is better in perfomance but to say that it doesn't stand a chance against 740m is wrong.
look here
Nvidia 650m(GDDR5)+i53360m@2.8+8Gb Ram=59.7 FPS @grid 2
Nvidia 740m(DDR3)(that too 64 bit B/W)+i53230m@2.6+6Gb Ram= 60FPS @ grid 2
now, as we know as the proccessor and the RAM on the 650m is better but it stills gives less FPS ... why?? Just explain this
If 740m Doesn't even stands a chance then it shouldn't even perform better at any of the games. but 740m despite being at disadvantage at every aspect performed better.How is that possible?
i believe that i can say that 650m>645m~740m~640m.
regarding 7970m- it's one of the fastest mobile GPU available around. even an SLI 740m or 650m doesn't stand a chance comparing it with 740m or 650m is comparing su30 against f22 raptor

Prototype 2
50-60FPS on High settings and 85-95FPS on Mid settings

 

[sam_738844]

Nvidia 740m(DDR3)(that too 64 bit B/W)+i53230m@2.6+6Gb Ram= 60FPS @ grid 2

Which settings are you running on?


"GT740M is a entry level 7 series card! It cant even stand against a GT650M"

typo...meant 7970M there which i was pointing at and posted links down below..in that post, i also said its a different lineup means i pointed the 7970M which actually aligned with GTX from nvidia

GT740M given the same CPU is just running short of GT650M , the 64bit is ok now...but it will struggle in high AAXAF, post some more photos and benchmarks though, i just got my new laptop and looking forward to score in similar games.

 

[Hrishi]

^^Generally a GDDR5 card has gpu cores clocked lower than a GDDR3 variant.So at lower resolution , a GDDR3 can outperform a GDDR5 in frames/sec.

 

[rohitshubham]

Nvidia 740m(DDR3)(that too 64 bit B/W)+i53230m@2.6+6Gb Ram= 60FPS @ grid 2

Which settings are you running on?


"GT740M is a entry level 7 series card! It cant even stand against a GT650M"

typo...meant 7970M there which i was pointing at and posted links down below..in that post, i also said its a different lineup means i pointed the 7970M which actually aligned with GTX from nvidia

GT740M given the same CPU is just running short of GT650M , the 64bit is ok now...but it will struggle in high AAXAF, post some more photos and benchmarks though, i just got my new laptop and looking forward to score in similar games.

Check page 2-3 of the thread , it's running at high settings.... posted by thinkdigit123....
Plugged my lappy to my 42 inch Sony HDTV and ran prototype 2 at highest settings at 1080p the game ran with a bit of lag @2.6Ghz cpu , but then i enabled the turbo@3.2 Ghz and the games ran butter smooth...it was divine experience .

i have played with PS3 on this TV but the graphics were nothing compared to one i saw myself.... you know i couldn't actually believe myself that it could outperform a PS3 in graphics.... But FRAPS is not working in 1080 mode... does anyone knows why??

regarding if it's your new lappy's specs which are posted in your sig. then go troll in the alienware forums ... seriously, this thing will kill the games...and you wanna compare benchmarks and FPS with mine. gud joke .

 

[v_1.6]

i just sent back this laptop(z500) to flipkart and received my money back(because the 64 bit) and just ordered inspiron 15r turbo (i7 3rd gen,7730m,4gigs ram) for 53000/- have i made the right decision ? or gt740m(64 bit) was good enough to overshadow 7730m ??

 

[ratnadeep007gamer]

can this system run the next Gen games like battlefield 4, assassins creed 4 black flag, watch dogs, call of duty ghosts, Batman arkham origins, NFS rivals , the crew etc on medium settings with decent and playable fps.

 

[sam_738844]

i just sent back this laptop(z500) to flipkart and received my money back(because the 64 bit) and just ordered inspiron 15r turbo (i7 3rd gen,7730m,4gigs ram) for 53000/- have i made the right decision ? or gt740m(64 bit) was good enough to overshadow 7730m ??

^wont say a "not good decision" will say an unwise decision...whats the point of returning a laptop with GT740M with a replaced 7730M when they both are entry level mobile GPUs and anyway will struggle in all recent games in med-high settings ??, replacing the GT740M with 7730M wont save you from lowering the settings in anyway it wont make the 7730M perform like 7970M!...when there are marginal FPS difference between two GPUs in terms of performance, always go for the newer tech.

P.S-> a 7750M (next performance class GPU in same line-up of 7730M) is 4-5% faster than GT740M, but 7730M IS NOT.

can this system run the next Gen games like battlefield 4, assassins creed 4 black flag, watch dogs, call of duty ghosts, Batman arkham origins, NFS rivals , the crew etc on medium settings with decent and playable fps.

low-mid all-over settings yes, expect 28~40 FPS with very low AA/AF settings, the narrow bus will matter then, for now its fine. Later newer titles will demand more fine tuning your graphics options. Not to forget you can OC the card at your own thermal profile management skills over a laptop.

 

[Hrishi]

i just sent back this laptop(z500) to flipkart and received my money back(because the 64 bit) and just ordered inspiron 15r turbo (i7 3rd gen,7730m,4gigs ram) for 53000/- have i made the right decision ? or gt740m(64 bit) was good enough to overshadow 7730m ??

Regarding GPU , I would said you went a bit on negative side , but by nit much.
However getting that IVB Quad Core I7 was a very smarter thing. You'll come to know when you'll run new gen games on a quad-core vs dual core.

 

[ratnadeep007gamer]

low-mid all-over settings yes, expect 28~40 FPS with very low AA/AF settings, the narrow bus will matter then, for now its fine. Later newer titles will demand more fine tuning your graphics options. Not to forget you can OC the card at your own thermal profile management skills over a laptop.

So with which laptop I should I go for. I want it for at least 4 years should play the games further on med settings with decent fps. Or one option I had to wait 1 year to drop the prices of Intel Haswell and by that time I think nVidia maxwell will be out. Will maxwell improve performance over kepler in same price bracket,i.e., 50000/- INR. What do you think experts as I am not good at hardware stuff please help me. My price bracket is 50000/-

 

[rohitshubham]

i just sent back this laptop(z500) to flipkart and received my money back(because the 64 bit) and just ordered inspiron 15r turbo (i7 3rd gen,7730m,4gigs ram) for 53000/- have i made the right decision ? or gt740m(64 bit) was good enough to overshadow 7730m ??

you spend 8k more than z500, of course you will get a better lappy but you could have gotten better laptops at this price with even better GPU 650m and 900p display.
Optimized games like crysis 3 will perform better on quad core processor than on dual core... so, in coming days you will get better performance if the GPU doesn't becomes a bottleneck.