Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Torres out for the season.
sigh.
sigh.
the FOOTBALL channel
XTerminator
Welbeck fan :D
Brother of United's Mame Biram Diouf beaten up after Manchester derby
*www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/19/manchester-united-city-diouf
sack of sh1tes..attack an innocent person,that too from behind.
*www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/19/manchester-united-city-diouf
sack of sh1tes..attack an innocent person,that too from behind.
ssk_the_gr8
Make Way the LORD is Here
we make our luck you fool... we haven't been lucky ... remember the 1st half of the season with all the injuries...
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Brother of United's Mame Biram Diouf beaten up after Manchester derby
*www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/19/manchester-united-city-diouf
sack of sh1tes..attack an innocent person,that too from behind.
what more can u expect from them?
skeletor
Chosen of the Omnissiah
This season belongs to Wooney then as the EPL's second best striker after Dogbra.
XTerminator
Welbeck fan :D
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Drogbaa pwns. But Rooney will win PFA sadly, no matter how I want Drogba to win it
XTerminator
Welbeck fan :D
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what citeh cvnts deserve
what citeh cvnts deserve
OP
Arsenal_Gunners
Human Spambot
YAY TOON!
Now go back down again.
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The only team I want up next season is Notts Forest.A big club with a lot of history which hasn't been in the PL lately.
Now go back down again.
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The only team I want up next season is Notts Forest.A big club with a lot of history which hasn't been in the PL lately.
XTerminator
Welbeck fan :D
personally,id like to see west ham go down now,next season,if they continue with their no-show.with the resources they have they should be in a comfortable position,but yesterday's match vs liverpool confirmed my dislike towards their current tactics.yea zola is trying his best.but its not enough.
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Yeah. It will be nice to see them back in PL, because it will send good message since they were in League One just few seasons ago.
Rahim
Married!
An appeal to fellow posters here, why don't we discuss non-matchday topics?
I always wanted to ask this question. If a player who has been blessed with strength and uses that natural ability to out-muscle the other player, who is weak, does that amount to unfair advantage? I see plenty of referees blowing the whistle and giving freekicks in fabour of the latter.
If a skillfull player uses his mastery of dribbling and tricks to go past players, isn't that too unfair on the former's part? But we seem to clap for that guy.
Both are using the abilities which are naturally bestowed upon them and good at.
I always wanted to ask this question. If a player who has been blessed with strength and uses that natural ability to out-muscle the other player, who is weak, does that amount to unfair advantage? I see plenty of referees blowing the whistle and giving freekicks in fabour of the latter.
If a skillfull player uses his mastery of dribbling and tricks to go past players, isn't that too unfair on the former's part? But we seem to clap for that guy.
Both are using the abilities which are naturally bestowed upon them and good at.
OP
Arsenal_Gunners
Human Spambot
Well,if the physical player is using unfair means to stop the skillful player then a foul is appropriate.However if your Messis get beaten in a shoulder to shoulder battle then its fair and usually is not deemed a foul.
Both the styles have their place,but a physical player needs to be skilled as well to use his skill efficiently and safely.
Both the styles have their place,but a physical player needs to be skilled as well to use his skill efficiently and safely.
thewisecrab
AFK
Classic case studies here would be Drogba and RVP I guess. Dont mention that midget's name.
As long as there is no tugging of shirts, diving, tripping, stamping, there is absolutely no harm in using physical advantage. Drogba is not skillful, but he more than makes for it by winning the ball through sheer strength, and of course speed.
RVP, in the 4-5 months we saw him, used skill, chipping the ball over, and getting into good positions. Again, with speed.
Speed is critical to both. It's not misuse of advantage, rather it's making most of the opponent's disadvantage (in case of strength or skill)
Terry in his early days, Makelele, Campbell, Essien, Song, Edgar Davids, etc. managed to use combo of speed and timing to tackle strikers. Dawson's tackle on Drogba over the last game was classic case of cancelling out Drogba's physical presence. But Terry, well, I needn't say more.
So it's a case of both perspective and fact.
As long as there is no tugging of shirts, diving, tripping, stamping, there is absolutely no harm in using physical advantage. Drogba is not skillful, but he more than makes for it by winning the ball through sheer strength, and of course speed.
RVP, in the 4-5 months we saw him, used skill, chipping the ball over, and getting into good positions. Again, with speed.
Speed is critical to both. It's not misuse of advantage, rather it's making most of the opponent's disadvantage (in case of strength or skill)
Terry in his early days, Makelele, Campbell, Essien, Song, Edgar Davids, etc. managed to use combo of speed and timing to tackle strikers. Dawson's tackle on Drogba over the last game was classic case of cancelling out Drogba's physical presence. But Terry, well, I needn't say more.
So it's a case of both perspective and fact.
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
How will you define "out muscle"? If out muscling doesnt involve fouling, then it is fine. Otherwise it is NOT.
thewisecrab
AFK
It's what Drogba does
9/10, he wins the ball fairly. Through plain physical strength.
OP
Arsenal_Gunners
Human Spambot
Unfortunately 80% of the physical players in the English leagues atleast,are just brutes who want to get "stuck in".(Shawcross,Martin Taylor) They are not skilled like Makelele or Gilberto to use their physique wisely,so they prefer to just lunge in.