The Archlinux thread

[ray|raven]

Re: problem with network in arch linux

You did run it as root right?

 

[praka123]

Re: problem with network in arch linux

hmm...it looks like some modules are not loaded.
post ur lsmod if it doesnot work.try a reboot and make sure.
add the needed modules to load to /etc/rc.conf module line.

BTW,a guy got a nice installation guide for arch linux with video tut too
*archux.com/page/installation-guide

 

[praka123]

Re: problem with network in arch linux

@abhinandh:what?solved the audio problem?

below site is useful for arch users,as it reports mirrors which are out of sync,error etc.
*users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html

 

[abhinandh]

Re: problem with network in arch linux

@abhinandh:what?solved the audio problem?

i think sound card is configured.i can hear my songs play when i increase the volume of my speakers but very feebly.any mixers are not working(alsamixer,kmix,asound)
btw how much ram and swap does your sys use?
and where did you find ff3.0beta.

 

[praka123]

Re: problem with network in arch linux

swap and RAM usage:

root@myhost:~# free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:           376        368          7          0         39        132
-/+ buffers/cache:        196        179
Swap:          376          0        376

firefox3beta3 and latest stabler betas will be available on unstable repository.
U have to try to enable repositories as I have,in /etc/pacman.conf:

root@myhost:~# cat /etc/pacman.conf
#
# /etc/pacman.conf
#
# See the pacman manpage for option directives

#
# GENERAL OPTIONS
#
[options]
# The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.
# If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.
#RootDir     = /
#DBPath      = /var/lib/pacman/
#CacheDir    = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
#LogFile     = /var/log/pacman.log
HoldPkg     = pacman glibc
XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u

#
# REPOSITORIES
#   - can be defined here or included from another file
#   - pacman will search repositories in the order defined here
#   - local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files
#   - repositories listed first will take precedence when packages
#     have identical names, regardless of version number
#
# Repository entries are of the format:
#       [repo-name]
#       Server = ServerName
#       Include = IncludePath
#
# The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and
# uncommented to enable the repo.
#

# Testing is disabled by default.  To enable, uncomment the following
# two lines.  You can add preferred servers immediately after the header,
# and they will be used before the default mirrors.
#[testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# Unstable is disabled by default.  To enable, uncomment the following
# two lines.  You can add preferred servers immediately after the header,
# and they will be used before the default mirrors.
[unstable]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# An example of a custom package repository.  See the pacman manpage for
# tips on creating your own repositories.
#[custom]
#Server = file:///home/custompkgs

[kdemod]
Server = *kdemod.ath.cx/repo/current/i686

Then,"rankmirrors" configured /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

root@myhost:~# cat /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
#
# Arch Linux repository mirrorlist
#

# United States
#Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://locke.suu.edu/linux/dist/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mirrors.unixheads.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = *mirrors.easynews.com/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = *holmes.umflint.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = *mirror.neotuli.net/arch/$repo/os/i686

# South America
# - Brazil
#Server = *archlinux.c3sl.ufpr.br/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://archlinux.c3sl.ufpr.br/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/i686

# Europe
# - Austria
#Server = ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - Belgium
#Server = ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
# - Czech Republic
#Server = ftp://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/arch/$repo/os/i686
# - Estonia
#Server = ftp://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - France
#Server = ftp://mir1.archlinuxfr.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mir2.archlinuxfr.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = *mir.archlinux.fr/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
# - Germany
#Server = ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.archlinuxppc.org/i686/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - Great Britain
#Server = *www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
# - Greece
#Server = ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - Hungary
#Server = ftp://ftp.mfa.kfki.hu/pub/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
# - Ireland
#Server = ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
# - Italy
#Server = ftp://mi.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - Netherlands
#Server = ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - Poland
#Server = ftp://mirror.icis.pcz.pl/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = *piotrkosoft.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.piotrkosoft.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
# - Portugal
#Server = ftp://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - Romania
#Server = ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
# - Russia
#Server = ftp://mirror.yandex.ru/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = *archlinux.freeside.ru/$repo/os/i686
# - Sweden
#Server = ftp://ftp.ds.hj.se/pub/os/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.gigabit.nu/$repo/os/i686
# - Switzerland
#Server = ftp://archlinux.puzzle.ch/$repo/os/i686
# - Turkey
#Server = *server.elsistech.com/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# - Ukraine
#Server = ftp://hell.org.ua/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
# NOTE: ftp.linux.kiev.ua only has the i686 arch and not x86_64
#Server = ftp://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/Linux/ArchLinux/$repo/os/i686

# Asia
# - Israel
#Server = *mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/i686

# Australia
#Server = ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/i686

# Setup-Entry
Server = ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686

edit using nano editor save and exit.
if ur not comfortable with CLI editors,open using "kdesu kwrite /etc/pacman.conf" etc etc save and exit.
then connect system to internet,
do in a terminal:

pacman -Syu

thats it!ur system will be update.
now install firefox3beta3 from unstable repo as:

pacman -Sy unstable/firefox3 extra/jre extra/flashplugin extra/mplayer-plugin extra/codecs community/pacman-contrib

^around 50 mb download!do it in night includes java,flash,multimedia plugins,and pacman pacsearch.also search for any 64-bit optimized kernels available.

check ur /etc/fstab for swap been enabled or not.

 

[abhinandh]

Re: problem with network in arch linux

thank you.will install ff3.
btw i recompiled the kernel and sound is working.

 

[praka123]

Re: problem with network in arch linux

^Is that necessary?I dont think so as u already said sound was working with old kernel albeit volume was low.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

To Arch or Not To Arch, Thats The Question

@mods: please edit title to make it The Arch Linux Thread instead of The Archlinux Thread.

Back to topic: I too am intrested in installing Arch Linux. I heard that installing a basic linux distro like Slackware, Gentoo, Debian, Fedora(guess not), Arch, etc will greatly help improve anybody's linux knowledge and the pains of indivudually configuring every single software from commandline, then installing more stuff, and finally KDM or GDM, are the greatest initiations for Linux Geekdom. So can someone please tell me if Arch is a good choice for me ?

I am used to Ubuntu with both KDE and Gnome. I now know how to use Apt-Get and DPKG very well. So I was concidering Debian too, as I need a stable, fast and reliable system that also has maximum eyecandy(after exessive theming once all the installing/configuring pains are over).

LFY suggests Arch as an Ideal Dual Boot with Ubuntu. Is it so ?

 

[praka123]

thx kalpik for renaming the thread

archlinux is not n00b friendly.it is gentoo with a good package manager(I know,a lil exaggerated!).I am loving pacman 8)! the community is better than Ubuntu(IRC),within 30 minutes or so,ur going easy with pacman.
only problem is there is no official rsynced asia mirror yet (israel is damn slow).

I have done a mistake by reinstalling arch when I tried first on 3rd of this month I installed using rc-iso but failed to remember to install rp-pppoe for bridgemode internet adsl.

now,after knowing pacman,we can download rp-pppoe.tar.gz package from arch repo and install as pacman -U package.tar.gz .
still,Debian Sid and Arch Linux both are almost the same speed.arch takes 20 sec to show kdm(bios boot time is long for me!) debian finishes booting in 34sec(if I remember correctly!) to a clean Gnome Desktop from cold start.
the beauty is,archlinux boots kdemod veryfast!
otherwise kde,which is superficially slow compared to even Gnome in my experience.

 

[techdoc]

hi praka which mirrors are you using??i am currently using the x64 version gnome.i do agree that once setup properly archlinux rocks,and you dont have to worry anymore regarding upgrades as it is a rolling release..

 

[praka123]

^australia mirror.pls refer post no. #45
BTW,Archlinux with kdemod is gr8! (Me,a Gnome user most time!)

 

[praka123]

---------------------------------------------------
Building packages from AUR(Arch User Repository) :-

Archlinux again surprised me with its awesome AUR.

I want to have opensuse kde window decorator on my arch.there is no readymade packages available.so,went to AUR and downloaded the theme tar ball.
*aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12066

extracted the tarball in ~/Desktop directory.

/home/prakash/Desktop/kwin-decor-suse2

the few basic dependecies for building packages are to be satisfied:

pacman -Sy core/automake core/make core/autoconf core/sudo core/fakeroot core/make

gcc is already installed.
after completing the installation,
I cd'ed into the /home/prakash/Desktop/kwin-decor-suse2 directory and did a (not as root!):

makepkg -s

^that's it!ABS made archlinux package for my system
installed as root(su -):

root@myhost:~# pacman -U /home/prakash/Desktop/kwin-decor-suse2/kwin-decor-suse2-0.4.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
loading package data... done.
checking dependencies...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                   [####################] 100%
(1/1) installing kwin-decor-suse2                   [####################] 100%

now I opened kcontrol(control centre),Appearance and themes>window decoration>suse
Thus changed it!operation completed.this is one of the easiest source compiling.it all went easy coz of the PKGBUILD script which is downloaded from arch user repository.
@abhinandh:u can try too

 

[abhinandh]

sure arch once configured is good.very good indeed.i too tried abs and it was the easiest.
till now i thought that apt-get was the best.pacman proved me wrong.
its so fast that i'am feeling that it takes forever for ubuntu to boot.

 

[mehulved]

Quite a majority of people who have/haven't use pacman agree that it is the best package manger out there. Alas, I couldn't get anything to download with pacman, maybe due to slow mirrors. Thus, my experience with it is too less. But, i'd surely like to try more of it.

 

[ChaiTan3]

Even I'm looking forward to install Arch after my exams(bugged of the slow gnome login time of ubuntu 7.10). I've downloaded the iso now(158 MB).
Can anyone tell me how much total download size is required for kdemod+all the other necessities.

 

[praka123]

^^^my installation is now around 3 GB!but for a simple install,it is around 1.5-2GB

 

[abhinandh]

Even I'm looking forward to install Arch after my exams(bugged of the slow gnome login time of ubuntu 7.10). I've downloaded the iso now(158 MB).
Can anyone tell me how much total download size is required for kdemod+all the other necessities.

~400mb for me.

 

[praka123]

^cool 8)
BTW,I am set back by some bad rumor(reality?) about archlinux's security aspect,as it is a "rolling release" one.
this is some response I got from Ubuntu forums archlinux section:

That was the case with mplayer. It took them three weeks to fix the problem after the bug report was filed.

*bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=332405


With regard to security, you might want to browse the Arch forums, for example:

Arch approach to security
*bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=332180


I've been using Debian (mainly sid) exclusively for about two weeks now ("business card" iso, only the base system + Openbox and a few other goodies). It seems just as light or lighter than Arch to me.

Configuring it is different from Arch (no rc.conf!), but I have a reasonable knowledge of its guts so it's not a problem for me. Mind you, after using Arch for a few months I find myself typing "pacman" instead of "aptitude" every once in a while.

*ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4472415&postcount=51

 

[abhinandh]

if you connect to internet through rp-pppoe,bridge mode here is a tool which will give a tray icon for that.
*linux.wareseeker.com/System/rp-pppoe-3.8.zip/334543
for kde
you have to setup sudo for that to work.

 

[praka123]

^arrey abhinandh!install knetstats tool!it automagically comes into ur panel tray when ur connected!