Suggestion for best small sized cam
OP
Soumik
Padawan
Thanks. 
I went today to a shop here to try and get a 'hands on' on these cams. Unfortunately they only had PEN EPL1 and EPL3. No NEX, Lumix GFx or nikon one.
Anyways... tried those 2. And i must say EPL1's grip was certaily a welcome after holding EPL3. And somehow the EPL1 felt slightly more pocket-able(less depth/body thickness perhaps). And both definitely fits into my formal pocket quite nicely with the 14-42mm kit lens... retracted offcourse. Considering how small EPL3 , as a package... i mean the stuff other than the lens... i am wondering how small the EPM1 really is My old P&S had a body like EPL3... minus the lens offcourse..
because of lack of grip.. its a tiny bit more difficult adjusting the lens and the menu at the same time on the EPL3. and definitely shouldnt be used without a proper safety band.. or whatever its called that goes into the wrist. Same goes for all cameras, just this one felt a bit slippery with the front heavy package.
I went today to a shop here to try and get a 'hands on' on these cams. Unfortunately they only had PEN EPL1 and EPL3. No NEX, Lumix GFx or nikon one.
Anyways... tried those 2. And i must say EPL1's grip was certaily a welcome after holding EPL3. And somehow the EPL1 felt slightly more pocket-able(less depth/body thickness perhaps). And both definitely fits into my formal pocket quite nicely with the 14-42mm kit lens... retracted offcourse
. Considering how small EPL3 , as a package... i mean the stuff other than the lens... i am wondering how small the EPM1 really is My old P&S had a body like EPL3... minus the lens offcourse.. because of lack of grip.. its a tiny bit more difficult adjusting the lens and the menu at the same time on the EPL3. and definitely shouldnt be used without a proper safety band.. or whatever its called that goes into the wrist.
Same goes for all cameras, just this one felt a bit slippery with the front heavy package.
OP
Soumik
Padawan
I am quite certain i will feel the grip issue on the Mini...
But hopefully i will get used to that soon. Else i can anyways get an external grip later on.
The tiny size and the promise of image quality is too much for me to resist. Till that i can compare it with other or get a hands on from some mall may be in the weekend.
What are ur comments on Nikon J1? Its got a similar price bracket... though with a smaller sensor.
But hopefully i will get used to that soon. Else i can anyways get an external grip later on.
The tiny size and the promise of image quality is too much for me to resist. Till that i can compare it with other or get a hands on from some mall may be in the weekend.
What are ur comments on Nikon J1? Its got a similar price bracket... though with a smaller sensor.
sujoyp
Grand Master
Nikon J1 has good ISO performance...and superb hybrid AF ...but again no IS inbuilt, no support for normal nikon lenses and maybe can not use any other old lenses too
I think olympus pen series is better
BTW get this pancake lens -> olympus 25mm 2.8 someday
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ur cam will be as good as a point and shoot...(it cost 25k in india)
I think olympus pen series is better
BTW get this pancake lens -> olympus 25mm 2.8 someday
*2.s.img-dpreview.com/products_data/products/olympus_25_2p8/generated/olympus_25_2p8-100x100.png?v=1384
ur cam will be as good as a point and shoot...(it cost 25k in india)
OP
Soumik
Padawan
hmm ok... will join that forum..
I live in Bangalore.. but home town is in Kolkata. Heard of a place called Metro galli there where we can get camera s at a cheaper rate. Now-a-days they have become intelligent and dont give huge discounts anymore.. just keep the price at around 3-5K less than retail. But still its a good discount...
If there is any such area in Bangalore, i would love to check it out. I just never heard of it. Mumbai is a bit too far from here.
I have never done.. but am OK with ebay purchase.. if the deal is good.
I live in Bangalore.. but home town is in Kolkata. Heard of a place called Metro galli there where we can get camera s at a cheaper rate. Now-a-days they have become intelligent and dont give huge discounts anymore.. just keep the price at around 3-5K less than retail
. But still its a good discount... If there is any such area in Bangalore, i would love to check it out. I just never heard of it. Mumbai is a bit too far from here.
I have never done.. but am OK with ebay purchase.. if the deal is good.
OP
Soumik
Padawan
Thanks man. I still have time to kill... so let me know if u anything
In the meantime.. I was checking some reviews on DP review... the comparision tool is really good. In that i came across Olympus XZ-1. And boy! At 100 ISO, the pic quality was absolutely stunning to me. In my eyes it beat down EOS 550D, D5100, NEX 7... quite easily! Fantastic clarity and sharpness.
Though as soon as i upped the ISO, the image degraded very rapidly. Probably due to the smaller sensor. But at the lowest ISO, it looked the best.
Is there any equivalent lens for micro 4:3 s? Cause i think its the lens that achieves that clarity as it should use the same image processor that the PEN series uses.
In the meantime.. I was checking some reviews on DP review... the comparision tool is really good. In that i came across Olympus XZ-1. And boy! At 100 ISO, the pic quality was absolutely stunning to me. In my eyes it beat down EOS 550D, D5100, NEX 7... quite easily! Fantastic clarity and sharpness.
Though as soon as i upped the ISO, the image degraded very rapidly. Probably due to the smaller sensor. But at the lowest ISO, it looked the best.
Is there any equivalent lens for micro 4:3 s? Cause i think its the lens that achieves that clarity as it should use the same image processor that the PEN series uses.
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Soumik
Padawan
going home tomorrow. will be buying in another 4-5 days.
Still not completely decided on epm1.. but thats the most probable option. Will depend on, if and for how much are EPL3, Nex 5n and GF3 are available.
comparing GF3 and EPM1, which one would u prefer? I know u would prefer 5n over both rite?
Still not completely decided on epm1.. but thats the most probable option. Will depend on, if and for how much are EPL3, Nex 5n and GF3 are available.
comparing GF3 and EPM1, which one would u prefer? I know u would prefer 5n over both rite?
sujoyp
Grand Master
Nope this time I am going to prefer m4/3 cams
I see lots of people buying them and its popularity is increasing...specially coz it have built in stabilization which works even with 20-30 years old lenses with adapters..
You know its like android where u can change ROMs of ur choice
Also panasonic and olympus lenses can be used on both I think ...even sigma started to make these lenses
this time I am going to prefer m4/3 cams I see lots of people buying them and its popularity is increasing...specially coz it have built in stabilization which works even with 20-30 years old lenses with adapters..
You know its like android where u can change ROMs of ur choice
Also panasonic and olympus lenses can be used on both I think ...even sigma started to make these lenses
OP
Soumik
Padawan
Hi... Am in Kolkata now, and i went to Metro Galli to chk for prices.
I was literally surprised when almost none of the shops heard of M4/3 or ILC cameras. Forgot the name of the shop from Oly website, but chked almost all. Only 1 shop could say that they can deliver it, and they quoted 29.5K for it.
Then went to a bigger shop... the guy knew abt those cameras but explained that... the only camera s that are commonly available are Canon Nikon and Sony, cause thats waht the market demands there. He seems to be the only person to know that sony has upgraded the NEX series, and the GF1 is a 2 yr old model, rest said its just come to the market, so wont get much discount. 5N would hit market here in 2 more months.. unfortunately i cant wait that long.
Anyways... he insisted that i should buy a DSLR (Sony alpha if i need a smaller body) for my budget, or reduce to get something like a HX9V. Cause if i get them.. no accessory or adapter is commonly available for them in this region. And it would be useless to buy an ILC if there is no lens available for them. He seems partially correct, as the newer Nikon 1 series was easily available, and PEN and GFX was rarely heard of among most shops.
I would be buying the camera tomorrow, so last minute suggestion required.. and my mind is completely blank right now. I dont know waht to do.
I live in Bangalore. So, Kolkata's local conditioning wont affect me that much, but is this the picture else where in India too?
I was literally surprised when almost none of the shops heard of M4/3 or ILC cameras. Forgot the name of the shop from Oly website, but chked almost all. Only 1 shop could say that they can deliver it, and they quoted 29.5K for it
.Then went to a bigger shop... the guy knew abt those cameras but explained that... the only camera s that are commonly available are Canon Nikon and Sony, cause thats waht the market demands there. He seems to be the only person to know that sony has upgraded the NEX series, and the GF1 is a 2 yr old model, rest said its just come to the market, so wont get much discount.
5N would hit market here in 2 more months.. unfortunately i cant wait that long.Anyways... he insisted that i should buy a DSLR (Sony alpha if i need a smaller body) for my budget, or reduce to get something like a HX9V. Cause if i get them.. no accessory or adapter is commonly available for them in this region. And it would be useless to buy an ILC if there is no lens available for them. He seems partially correct, as the newer Nikon 1 series was easily available, and PEN and GFX was rarely heard of among most shops.
I would be buying the camera tomorrow, so last minute suggestion required.. and my mind is completely blank right now. I dont know waht to do.
I live in Bangalore. So, Kolkata's local conditioning wont affect me that much, but is this the picture else where in India too?
OP
Soumik
Padawan
Hi, I finally got the camera...
E PM1 it is.
Black coloured.
Dual Lens kit. And its a beauty to look at.
Though it wnt fit my pocket any ways.
I got the 14-42mm default one plus the 40-150mm tele lens.
Pancake lens wasnt available as kit combo, so coulnt take it.
Total came to 34k total, including vat. I guess its a good deal.
This shop was pretty good as he knew abt adapters and all.. his personal cam itself was an E PL1.
The cam itself is very handy indeed and doesnt cause much of a trouble while operating in 1 hand, even with the telephoto lens. Very light indeed.
After playing around a bit in the dark, i understood i dont know anything abt photography. Will post pictures and more comments in the light of day .
Am really very happy and excited with the cam. But i seriously need ur support to learn to take good pics using it.
Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
E PM1 it is.
Black coloured.
Dual Lens kit. And its a beauty to look at
.Though it wnt fit my pocket any ways
.I got the 14-42mm default one plus the 40-150mm tele lens.
Pancake lens wasnt available as kit combo, so coulnt take it.
Total came to 34k total, including vat. I guess its a good deal
.This shop was pretty good as he knew abt adapters and all.. his personal cam itself was an E PL1.
The cam itself is very handy indeed and doesnt cause much of a trouble while operating in 1 hand, even with the telephoto lens. Very light indeed.
After playing around a bit in the dark, i understood i dont know anything abt photography
. Will post pictures and more comments in the light of day .Am really very happy and excited with the cam. But i seriously need ur support to learn to take good pics using it
.Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
OP
Soumik
Padawan
Thanks...
Ok.. will post a few pics of the cam.. and taken by cam in some time. If u have fb account.. here's link of the pics of the cam itself
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Ok.. will post a few pics of the cam.. and taken by cam in some time. If u have fb account.. here's link of the pics of the cam itself
My new Cam
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Soumik
Padawan
Hey sujoy,
can u give me suggestions for cheap macro and wide angle convertors? Also, whats the cheapest thin/prime lens? With convertor is fine. The lens is really too think to carry around in pocket .
Also, a macro convertor is enough to take macros rite? No new lens required?
can u give me suggestions for cheap macro and wide angle convertors? Also, whats the cheapest thin/prime lens? With convertor is fine.
The lens is really too think to carry around in pocket .Also, a macro convertor is enough to take macros rite? No new lens required?