Suggest a gaming/animation Config for 75k

[coderunknown]

just saw the anandtech review--
dudes seriously hd5970is a beast a real BEAST
hd5850 crossfire matches hd5970 in performance, hd 5870 crossfire trumps it but if you oc the beast hd 5970 it kicks away hd5850 crossfire and matches and even trumps hd5870 crossfire sometimes and sometimes looses to it.

so IMO hd5850 crossfire is a great vfm. 5970 worth if you will oc it..hd5870 crossfire will cost 7-8k over hd5970 so not worth it. just oc hd5970 then or get oc edition for around 38k

for op then go for hd5850 crossfire, it is cheaper than hd5970

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NOW I THINK NVIDIA HAS LOST..
their new gtx 465 470 480 are not worth every penny we spend on them..they are microwaves and consume loads of power...
for gtx 465 is just a super waste of money.. hd5830 and hd5850 are better, much much better
for gtx 470 hd 5870 is the way to go..
for gtx 480 hd 5850 crossfire is the way to go....

what do you think guys?
i would say bye bye nvidia...

my suggestion is: no to dual GPU cards. they run really really hot. a crossfire is much better. OC it and the performance will be even higher. HD5970 is powerful. but wasting 10k extra over HD5850 CF & still getting same performance. extra heat & noise. better opt for Xfire.

as for Nvidia: lower the temperature first. cause power will be needed when u ask for so much performance. else Nvidia will keep loosing its customers to AMD (of course except their loyal mindless moron fanboys ).

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

sammy i said the same thing hd5850 cf better vfm than hd5970.......

i said that hd5970 OC edition is better vfm than hd5870 cf...acc to me...former would cost 38k and later 44k

 

[coderunknown]

i said that hd5970 OC edition is better vfm than hd5870 cf...acc to me...former would cost 38k and later 44k

HD5970 is already a really hot card. and you saying is to OC it? it'll only turn 90C. also i really really doubt AMD reference coolers. looks bad. works even bad. always get card having custom coolers.

pricing will be same. 38k for CF of MSI HD5850 twin frozer II. so if for almost all HD5970 cards.

 

[aby geek]

SLI/xfire for an animation workstation ? jasji ,sam kya ho gaya aap dono ko?

seriously waisting 33k on gaming cards when what they contribute to his wrk would be less.

i would say any ATI fire pro offering under 26k would suffice.

and if only wants gaming cards i would go with 1 5850 only . cause game cards wont bump up creative app performace , they would just make viewports in 3d apps faster and crisper.

no sense of dual gpu.

and 4 years is farce, whatever is built now will be junk after march 2011.

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@davidboon firstly, you wont need a rig as soon as the course starts , most probably
youll need it in early 2011.

starting is always lots of drawing and sketching, a lil bit of photoshop maybe but 3D is very rare in the first semester.

so i would say better buy the rig arnd september or early q4.
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and in around august core i7 950 will come down to 16k so u may wait for that since u require rendering power.

its not necessary to burn all 75k if your budget is 75k, buy smartly and save money where ever you can, keep dough handy for upgrade coz its inevitable.

use 1 5850 for these 6 -8 months. ull save that 15k for the second one and u can get 5850 replacement when it comes.

and i agree with NZXT M59. antec 300 and zebronics antibiotic can be the alternatves.

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so please wait till your course starts , you will be then only really aware of what you really require.

kya pata agar need nahin ho to aap directly 2011 main sandy bridges le sakte ho!

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

ok, thanks for info sam..
38k for CF 5850!! dude it would cost around 32k only..i was talking about cf of hd 5870....for around 44k, msi 5970 costs 35k now

so you say cards like Sapphire HD5970 2GB GDDR5 PCIE (OC Edition) for 38k should be skipped.. hd5870 cf is better value or the former one..???

 

[Davidboon]

@davidboon firstly, you wont need a rig as soon as the course starts , most probably
youll need it in early 2011.

starting is always lots of drawing and sketching, a lil bit of photoshop maybe but 3D is very rare in the first semester.

so i would say better buy the rig arnd september or early q4.

I really appreciate your suggestion , but the institute where i am joining i have got admission into the 2nd year directly through the entrance test . so ill need a PC as soon as i join it and i have two options , either buy a laptop or desktop but as laptops seriously lack performance i am sticking to a PC .

 

[aby geek]

hmm yeah workstation notebooks run upwards of 2 lacs.

but i would still say , save as much as possible, because when market refreshes youl feel your system is way backward.

by the way , whats your likely curriculumn for the 2nd year , and what course is it.
full 3 yrs degree or a diploma.

if we know that we could zero in on a cheapest performing build and save some for upgrade too.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

sam you have not ans my querry in the previous post..

 

[mavihs]

SLI/xfire for an animation workstation ? jasji ,sam kya ho gaya aap dono ko?

seriously waisting 33k on gaming cards when what they contribute to his wrk would be less.

+1

and if only wants gaming cards i would go with 1 5850 only . cause game cards wont bump up creative app performace , they would just make viewports in 3d apps faster and crisper.

no sense of dual gpu.

and 4 years is farce, whatever is built now will be junk after march 2011.

+1

I really appreciate your suggestion , but the institute where i am joining i have got admission into the 2nd year directly through the entrance test . so ill need a PC as soon as i join it and i have two options , either buy a laptop or desktop but as laptops seriously lack performance i am sticking to a PC .

which Institute you joining & which course?


Can you answer some of the below questions!

4. Planning to overclock?
5. Which OS are you planning to use?
6. How much hard drive space is needed?
7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen?
8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
10. When are you planning to buy the system?

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary

 

[asingh]

For 22" (even 24") a 5970/5870 Xfire, is way to much over kill. Unless in the three years you will upgrade to multi monitors. Maximum go with a single 5870. That is more than enough. Save on the cash. Since you want maximum potential in the future get the X58 chipset with the i930 which is the latest and the best. See, no once can guarantee you future proof. Only way to get maximum future proof, is to buy the current latest.

 

[Davidboon]

which Institute you joining & which course?

I am joining DSK Supinfocom , Pune in the 2nd year of the foundation course of animation .

 

[coderunknown]

SLI/xfire for an animation workstation ? jasji ,sam kya ho gaya aap dono ko?

seriously waisting 33k on gaming cards when what they contribute to his wrk would be less.

i would say any ATI fire pro offering under 26k would suffice.

and if only wants gaming cards i would go with 1 5850 only . cause game cards wont bump up creative app performace , they would just make viewports in 3d apps faster and crisper.

no sense of dual gpu.

and 4 years is farce, whatever is built now will be junk after march 2011.

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@davidboon firstly, you wont need a rig as soon as the course starts , most probably
youll need it in early 2011.

starting is always lots of drawing and sketching, a lil bit of photoshop maybe but 3D is very rare in the first semester.

so i would say better buy the rig arnd september or early q4.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and in around august core i7 950 will come down to 16k so u may wait for that since u require rendering power.

its not necessary to burn all 75k if your budget is 75k, buy smartly and save money where ever you can, keep dough handy for upgrade coz its inevitable.

use 1 5850 for these 6 -8 months. ull save that 15k for the second one and u can get 5850 replacement when it comes.

and i agree with NZXT M59. antec 300 and zebronics antibiotic can be the alternatves.

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so please wait till your course starts , you will be then only really aware of what you really require.

kya pata agar need nahin ho to aap directly 2011 main sandy bridges le sakte ho!

well i have to agree, we went a bit too far without thinking much. OP got money to spend so we just commented. if OP can skip gaming, a Fire Pro card can be a good buy. however for students, HD5850 should be enough. or HD5770 in Xfire.

ok, thanks for info sam..
38k for CF 5850!! dude it would cost around 32k only..i was talking about cf of hd 5870....for around 44k, msi 5970 costs 35k now

so you say cards like Sapphire HD5970 2GB GDDR5 PCIE (OC Edition) for 38k should be skipped.. hd5870 cf is better value or the former one..???

sam you have not ans my querry in the previous post..

sorry buddy. was not at home. went on a long drive to relief from excruciating heat

oh yes. damn !!! i just messed up the calculation. i'll say, HD5850 is best VFM. or HD5770 is also excellent value. all depends at what resolution & what kind of games someone wants to run.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

o ho sam, read my last line yar...

 

[Davidboon]

4. Planning to overclock?

Yep , gotta unleash the full power of the rig .

5. Which OS are you planning to use?

Windows 7 64 Bit

6. How much hard drive space is needed?

500 GB ( already have a 500 Gb HDD with bad sectors and warranty is still there so will send it for RMA )

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen?

Currently gaming on a 17 incher @1440 x 900 res. , this will change with the monitor ill purchase next .

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)

somewhere between 7-8 , wanted to assemble a rig after my 10th boards but in orissa the shopkeepers quoted the price of 9800GT as 23,000 . when it was available in lamington road at 12-13K . this is the scene in here u will have to pay a grand amount to get hardware ordered from other states . so had to go for a branded PC .

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?

Already had a branded lenovo PC , well i pretty much replaced everything in it except the motherboard and cpu and the cabinet .

10. When are you planning to buy the system?

end of july , classes start on august 2nd .

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.

DVD writer , speakers , smps .

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?

I am from orissa , ill be buying the Rig from Lamington road , Mumbai .

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary .

I am emphasizing mainly on the Graphics part , it should be solid . I have a 9800GT now , which i have been using for 2 and a half year . According to me it still has enough power to run games at the native resolution of my monitor on medium settings and i am a avid gamer , currently i am in a gaming clan and i like playing games for 5-6 Hours on a stretch . so i don't wan't to compromise on the graphics part .


Actually I've been waiting to this moment from the past 3 years and this time i want to get the best and this time i have access to hardware , to which could not last time . so pretty much you can understand my feelings .

 

[coderunknown]

yup. i read. HD5870 CF. it'll cost ~50k. now compare 50k to 38-40k. i'll say none is good VFM. one should get a single HD5870. if someone wants eyefinity gaming or want use projectors, HD5870 in Xfire is good option.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

ya as i said during the starting of this thread hd5870 is what op should look at instead of hd5970.
anyways hd5850 is sufficient and powerful enough.

 

[aby geek]

woot dsk supinfocom , nice.

you should seriously go for a single 5850 if you wanna game and spend on cabby ,and psu and after market cooler since you will over clock.

and i found two gaming notebooks in your budget. asus u45j and n61j

well within your budget and good performers too. i tried dell but they had puny battery life.

 

[Davidboon]

really you guys are genius at this job , but now you're confusing me...lol

@sam
5870 Xfire is not possible with my budget . 5850 is the only way i can do it . else ill stick for single 5870 or 5970 and as @asigh said " Only way to get maximum future proof, is to buy the current latest " I have to settle for the latest .

@aby_geek yaar me thodi na koi professional animator hun , me to sirf ek student hun . ab ke liye workstation wale graphics card ke bina kam chal jayega ..

and another thing if i save on the rig my parents will not give that to me and i wont be able to upgrade my rig from my pocket except minor upgrades .

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woot dsk supinfocom , nice.

you should seriously go for a single 5850 if you wanna game and spend on cabby ,and psu and after market cooler since you will over clock.

and i found two gaming notebooks in your budget. asus u45j and n61j

well within your budget and good performers too. i tried dell but they had puny battery life.

I don't know somehow i hate laptops and Performance at high cost does'nt attract me . As usual the institute will have its own workstations , i just need this PC for assignments and time pass .

and for the cooler part ill just have to get it from my pocket , so will consider it next year for the rig . but as asigh says " Only way to get maximum future proof, is to buy the current latest. "
so either way ill get a single 5870 or 5970 .

 

[aby geek]

latest to bhai ab march mai hi milega.

ek kaam kar baccha hue paise saving account kholle. march main nikaal liyo jab 5850 or 5870 ki replacement aaye.

abhi 5850 par sab chal jayega , crysis 2 ,metro 2033 , .

so no qualms . apney budget ka mota hissa power supply ,processor and ram me spend karo , taki u get the best gaming workstation hybrid.

acha waise tumko wacom bhi to kharidni padegi shayad?

 

[coderunknown]

really you guys are genius at this job , but now you're confusing me...lol

thats our hobby. make other confuse we suggest so aggressively sometimes (like today in morning time) we forget in the end what was the purpose of the rig

@sam
5870 Xfire is not possible with my budget . 5850 is the only way i can do it . else ill stick for single 5870 or 5970 and as @asigh said " Only way to get maximum future proof, is to buy the current latest " I have to settle for the latest .

yup. you can also do 1 thing. this i not sure is possible. ATI don't have Physx. Nvidia have. but Nvidia currently isn't a good buy, ATI is. so couple both. get HD5850 + 9800GT (for physics) on a X58 + i7 930 rig. or if you want save, Phenom II 1055T + 890FX + a hell lot of OC. add to the mix 2XHD5770 in Xfire (performance equal to HD5870 @ 4-5k less) & 9800GT in 3rd slot for physics.

@aby_geek yaar me thodi na koi professional animator hun , me to sirf ek student hun . ab ke liye workstation wale graphics card ke bina kam chal jayega ..

else say ta-ta bye-bye to gaming

I don't know somehow i hate laptops and Performance at high cost does'nt attract me . As usual the institute will have its own workstations , i just need this PC for assignments and time pass .

for me laptops are mainly for show. you can never pack even half the firepower of a modern 80k pc on a 2k lappy. lappy will get hot (parts burn, RMA, blah blah blah).

Conclusion: gaming laptops are best way of giving yourself headache.

and for the cooler part ill just have to get it from my pocket , so will consider it next year for the rig . but as asigh says " Only way to get maximum future proof, is to buy the current latest. "
so either way ill get a single 5870 or 5970 .

i'll again say what i told before. go crossfire. its fun + save some money. get a cooler now only. not something very high end. ~3k cooler will do job well.