Rig, Purely for Rendering Purpose (100K)

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?

Ans: PURPOSE IS TO GET FASTER RENDERS.
NFS the RUN type of games (not more than twice a month)


2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 1 Lack, can extend 5 or 8k more

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: no

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Win7 Ultimate.
I will learn Linux, so will run Linux also.


5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1TB total
If you find that SSD is required in my case and budget .. please suggest.


6. Do you want to buy a monitor?
Ans: Yes, 24", 1080p Full HD.
Whichever monitor will help me to get brighter colors, please suggest that. I am in Animation field.


7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Speakers

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: 1st week of sept.


9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: yes, once. But assembler will assemble it.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Bangalore, Ready to buy online if they're cheaper ovr there. :)

11. Anything else which you would like to say?

RAM I want maximum in my budget. (minimum 16 GB)

first priority in CPU case is more number of fans. neon lights are secondary things.
Well I like HAF 7200.. what do you think?

I will extend the my gpu in future to boost graphics, So I will need a motherboard which should support more than 1 graphic card.
 

acewin

Point Blanc
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-compon...imation-multimedia-student-80k-no-gaming.html
have a look at this thread., get a better mobo, better cabby, remove pen tablet, Dell Ultrasharp 23 inch in around 15K or added 4-5 K for U2412 Ultrasharp

also consider NZXT Phantom for cabby as it is price in 7-8K and is full tower and very goo looking cabby.
 
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martin.stallone

Broken In
Thanks for a quick reply.

Please clear my concerns about graphic card.
which graphic card should I buy ?
Should I go for Quadro 4000 ??

Please suggest one.

Please clearify the mobo. , also does it support more than one graphic cards ?

What exactly advantages would I get by buying an SSD?


Thanks
 

dashing.sujay

Moving
Staff member
If you can afford, go for Quadro. Not sure about the model, but will let you know as my bro is an animator. As far as the mobo is concerned, it should be SLI/Crossfire ready to support multiple graphic cards. (SLI for nVidia, CF for AMD)

SSD is meant for fast booting and loading of apps installed on it. Buy either 128GB Samsung 830 series or Crucial m4.

For monitor, look none other than> ASUS - Display- ASUS PA248Q Don't settle below 24 inches.
 

ajayashish

Living to Succeed
Normal Graphic cards are of no use when u render... the components which helps most while rendering is the Ram and the Number of Cores on CPU. Each core gives one bucket for rendering... my old Q6600 gives me 4 cores for rendering. Quadro GPU will give u help when u are viewing on view port for Max or Maya.
 

acewin

Point Blanc
@OP, If you check the thread, and go through it throughly you question will be answered
@sujay can you tell about its availability

Dell Ultrasharp series is best VFM IPS panels, as far as Indian market is concerned
I have seen many reviews for Asus Panels, they are good as all Asus products are but I never get to see them here.

which cabby is HAF 7200
 
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martin.stallone

Broken In
Soory .. HAF 922..

And
I have 2 mobo in my mind ..

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
and
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3R

which one will be perfect for me ?


ASUS PA248Q is too pricey for my budget... I am looking for dell ultrasharp 23 or 24"

which PSU should i choose ?

and For CPU cooling what about "Corsair Hydro Series H100"
PLEASE SOME ONE GIVE ME A LIST OF COMPONENTS ..

:noob:

Normal Graphic cards are of no use when u render... the components which helps most while rendering is the Ram and the Number of Cores on CPU. Each core gives one bucket for rendering... my old Q6600 gives me 4 cores for rendering. Quadro GPU will give u help when u are viewing on view port for Max or Maya.

Ok so should I go for a 20+ GB RAM and a lower graphic card than Quadro 4000 ??
Please suggest one graphic card.
 

dashing.sujay

Moving
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@sujay can you tell about its availability

Dell Ultrasharp series is best VFM IPS panels, as far as Indian market is concerned
I have seen many reviews for Asus Panels, they are good as all Asus products are but I never get to see them here.

Asus PA246Q 24 Inch LCD Monitor

IIRC someone at TDF bought it recently, not able to find the post though.

Soory .. HAF 922..

And
I have 2 mobo in my mind ..

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
and
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3R

which one will be perfect for me ?


ASUS PA248Q is too pricey for my budget... I am looking for dell ultrasharp 23 or 24"

which PSU should i choose ?

and For CPU cooling what about "Corsair Hydro Series H100"
PLEASE SOME ONE GIVE ME A LIST OF COMPONENTS ..

:noob:

PSU > Keeping SLI in mind, HX850 should be enough for it. Opt for modular PSUs.

And if you aren't OCing to extreme, then water cooling is not required. CM hyper 212 evo should suffice.

Ok so should I go for a 20+ GB RAM and a lower graphic card than Quadro 4000 ??
Please suggest one graphic card.

8GB is more than enough, but settle for 4*4GB for future proofing. 20GB+ won't do any good.
 

acewin

Point Blanc
hahaha ati V4800 fire pro or something is the name

buy 2 chips of 8GB RAM and make it 16 GB, that will be safest move because we end up a lot of multitasking

Please note, there is nothing wrong in debate for software price, pay or not pay or such things, however I am sorry to point but the discussion is off topic to the thread.

I have specifically requested help for a hardware only configuration. I may or may not have budget or plan for software but that is not the point of this discussion, hence I request all not drive down to the debate of to or not to pay for software.

No hard feelings.

following hardware configuration is by far my selection,

Intel 3rd Gen Core i7 3770 / 3.90 GHz / LGA1155 -> Rs. 20,000
Intel Original DH77EB / LGA1155 / SATA3 / USB3 -> Rs. 7,200
Cooler Master Hyper 212 / EVO / 120mm -> Rs. 2,200
16GB (2x8) DDR3 1600MHz Corsiar Vengence -> Rs. 7,200
Western Digital (WD) 1TB / SATA 3.0 (6 GBPS) / 64MB Buffer / 7200 RPM -> Rs. 5,200
ATI / AMD FirePro v4800 / 1GB GDDR5 / PCI-E 2.0 -> Rs. 10,700
Any DVD RW -> Rs. 1,000
Corsiar VS450 / 450w / PCI-E Connector -> Rs. 2,600
Cooler Master Elit 310 -> Rs. 2,200
IPS / Super PLS Based LED 22" - 23" -24" Panel / 3 yr warrenty onsite / (Max budget 15k) -> Rs. 15,000
iBall 8060U Pen Tablet -> Rs. 4,500
Microsoft or Logitech Combo (Under PS2 Interface) -> Rs. 1,000
Creative or Altek 2.1 -> Rs. 2,500
APC UPS -> Rs. 2,200

Total -> Rs. 83,500/-

Thanks

make this the base and do your additions

like this
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-compon...imation-multimedia-student-80k-no-gaming.html
have a look at this thread., get a better mobo, better cabby, remove pen tablet, Dell Ultrasharp 23 inch in around 15K or added 4-5 K for U2412 Ultrasharp

also consider NZXT Phantom for cabby as it is price in 7-8K and is full tower and very goo looking cabby.
 

dashing.sujay

Moving
Staff member
ComponentProductPrice (rs)
ProcessorIntel i7 2600k18600
MotherboardMaximus V GENE14800
Ram2x8gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz cl9~6500
Graphics CardQuadro (?)N/A
Hard Drive1tb Western Digital Cavair Blue/Black (if budget allows)5406
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24B5ST1114
PC CaseHaf 9227800
Power Supply UnitCorsair TX850M11155
MonitorDell u2312hm17000 (fk)
Mouse/KBLogitech Mk200 combo700
Heatsink
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo2101
SSDCrucial m4
8700
TOTAL
~93k
 

ajayashish

Living to Succeed
Have you ever thought of going for Dual Xeon CPUs... they are the best when it comes to rendering engine...
 

vkl

Cyborg Agent
@martin.stallone
SSD won't improve render times.It would make ths OS and applications more responsive.Would reduce the start time of appliactions.That's it.

Whether you need to go for a firepro or a quadro depends upon the applications you use.
In case of Maya viewport rendering a firepro v5800 is much faster(mainly in shaded rendering) than that of a quadro 4000.
In Lightwave also the firepro is much faster.If it is 3dsmax then the quadro is much faster than the firepro v5800.

*i.imgur.com/AbrtC.jpg?1 *i.imgur.com/aHDbb.jpg?1
*i.imgur.com/aH6sy.jpg?1 *i.imgur.com/PmhK3.jpg?1
*i.imgur.com/RUqRC.jpg?1 *i.imgur.com/GuVA8.jpg?1


Firepro v5800 is available for 25.5k whereas quadro 4000 is 47k at golchhait.com
At 10.5k firepro v4800 is the best value product if you can get one.
Actually the card to get is firepro v4900 but it is not available anywhere.It performs close to v5900 and beats v5800 in many tests.

Though graphic cards can handle viewport rendering,final rendering is done by the CPU.i7 2600k with help of its hyperthreading would be anywhere between 15 -20% faster than i5 2500k.
 

acewin

Point Blanc
Monitors : Dell UltraSharp U2312HM Now Available @ SMC International!
that is SMC listing
@ajayashish, suggest mobo + proccy + RAM combo for it

4x4GB is not much good swtich to 2x8GB you will have free DIMM, and price difference is not much
 
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martin.stallone

Broken In
Will you use the machine only for rendering or you will be using it for Modelling as well...

Almost for everything .. Modelling, lighting, composting .. and rendering ..

Monitors : Dell UltraSharp U2312HM Now Available @ SMC International!
that is SMC listing
@ajayashish, suggest mobo + proccy + RAM combo for it

4x4GB is not much good swtich to 2x8GB you will have free DIMM, and price difference is not much

Thanks.. I would go for 8x2

@vkl

Thanks a lot for giving this much info and comparision about both graphic cards ..
those for max and lighwave ..

what about maya ?
for rendering and 3D stuff .. 99% I will use maya

ComponentProductPrice (rs)
ProcessorIntel i7 2600k18600
MotherboardMaximus V GENE14800
Ram2x8gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz cl9~6500
Graphics CardQuadro (?)N/A
Hard Drive1tb Western Digital Cavair Blue/Black (if budget allows)5406
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24B5ST1114
PC CaseHaf 9227800
Power Supply UnitCorsair TX850M11155
MonitorDell u2312hm17000 (fk)
Mouse/KBLogitech Mk200 combo700
Heatsink
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo2101
SSDCrucial m4
8700
TOTAL
~93k

Thanks for valuable reply


Graphic card ?

Have you ever thought of going for Dual Xeon CPUs... they are the best when it comes to rendering engine...

How much they cost ?

How much does firepro v5800 cost ?
 

vkl

Cyborg Agent
@ martin.stallone
First 2 pics show about maya viewport rendering.In shaded rendering v4800,v5800,v5900 are much faster than quadro 4000.For maya take a firepro card.
I have already mentioned V5800 costs around 25k and is available at flipkart.
 
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martin.stallone

Broken In
@ martin.stallone
First 2 pics show about maya viewport rendering.In shaded rendering v4800,v5800,v5900 are much faster than quadro 4000.For maya take a firepro card.

Thank you so much :)
...

one more concern .. which one will fit to my budget ?
I can extend 5-8k more ..
 

vkl

Cyborg Agent
^^Get the firepro v4800.It has more value for the money you pay for it.Firepro v5800 is noticeably faster but not worth 2.5x the price of v4800.
If you want then you can go with v5800 also.

Would you overclock the processor?
If no then go for i7 2600 or i7 3770.
i7 3770 is around 20k and runs hotter than i7 2600 but performance difference between them is not much.If you are going for i7 3770 then get Gskill ripjaws(1600MHz)RAM.
 
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martin.stallone

Broken In
My PC will be turned on 18 hours per day ..
Not rendering and 3D work all time .. (4-6 hour a day 3D apps )..

so Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is ok ?

@vlk ..

I am going for i7 3770

is "G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 16 GB PC RAM (F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL)" ok ?

*www.flipkart.com/g-skill-ripjawsx-ddr3-16-gb-pc-ram-f3-12800cl10d-16gbxl/p/itmd8bc6bjdvpucr?pid=RAMD8BC6AV3GXS9G&ref=ae9bace3-8f12-4685-9ece-21d05329a214


Processor Intel Core i7 3770k 20,000
Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V PRO 16000
RAM G.Skill RipjawsZ DDR3 16 GB(F3-12800CL9Q-16GBZL 7300
Graphic Card Firepro v5900 33000
HDD Seagate Baracuda 1 TB 7200 RPM HDD (64 MB Cache) 5570
DVD Writer ASUS 24X Sata Black DVD 1150
PSU Corsair 850TXV2 6850
Case NZXT Phantom 7800
Monitor Dell Ultrasharp 23" 13250*
CPU Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo 2200
UPS APC 1.1Kva 4800
Mouse Logitech g300 1500
Keyboard Microsoft Wireless keyboard 800 1500
Total 107,670



Please comment on this Rig ..

*www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-firepro-v5900-2-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmd5r9vbr36jxtf?pid=GRCD5R9UZWZGMXVV&ref=2f7af054-739f-4e3d-9252-d81fbe19448d see this
 
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