Request for LCD Suggestion - Plz be kind enough to drop in ur opinion

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emmarbee

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desiibond said:
Congrats man. So, did you like it??
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Desiji, am new to this LCD age. I love CRT. I'm not sure whether the settings which I've set in this one is the perfect settings. Have to work on that.
Since I got the monitor in the evening time, I'm not sure about the glossy thing. Will check up tomorrow with my window glare and will let everybody know about the so called "mirrory" sp2208wfp.
And you still haven't told me about the overclocking / play HD videos with video card.


acewin said:
hey emmar, how much extra did it cost from the site quoted price to you.
@emmar you bought 2208 model in 17.2K ??
how did they do the breakup, I mean with shipping and extra taxes.
I also wanna place an order. For either Dell 2208 or from HP.

I will call up HP tomorrow, lets see what happens, HP customer care do not give good response anytime.
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In site it was 16.5, and I got that for 17.2
So shipping/ warranty/ extra taxes / whatever = 700
 
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emmarbee

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desiibond said:
ah sorry. can you send me your processor's model number??
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It's D 930. That is not the problem. I googled it up and found that you can overclock it well. But I didn't see anybody mentioning about overclocking it with Intel Board. All were using some other boards like ASUS P5LD2 and some other.
Does motherboard has anything to do with processor overclocking? If so, is it possible to overclock my CPU with Intel 945 GNT board?
 
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icebags

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i hv got a question , both 17" and 19" have 1440X900 pixels ......which one is better?

does 19" one give crappier pic anyway? i use monitors for all purposes - reading, gaming , movie ....

i was thinking for 19" tho.
 
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emmarbee

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icebags said:
i hv got a question , both 17" and 19" have 1440X900 pixels ......which one is better?

does 19" one give crappier pic anyway? i use monitors for all purposes - reading, gaming , movie ....

i was thinking for 19" tho.
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No, its not like that. Even I was thinking the same. whether to buy 20" or 22", but my 22" is good. Of course I can't say about the quality when compared with 20" , but the 22" at 1680x1050 is not as I thought. Good for text, movies and gaming ! ! !
 
mathi_vadhanan

mathi_vadhanan

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emmarbee said:
It's D 930. That is not the problem. I googled it up and found that you can overclock it well. But I didn't see anybody mentioning about overclocking it with Intel Board. All were using some other boards like ASUS P5LD2 and some other.
Does motherboard has anything to do with processor overclocking? If so, is it possible to overclock my CPU with Intel 945 GNT board?
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Emmarbee, you can't overclock on intel motherboards except skulltrail.
Intel motherboards are well known for their stability and hence they don't come with overclocking features in the BIOS.

acewin said:
mathi you got 2 options get Dell e198 model under 12K or if you wanna go for 22 inch then think of Dell models

Other than this try to check HP L1908wm site quoted price is around 12088, if you get the availability nearby.
I had tryied to get in touch of HP customer care through site, but did not receive any response.
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acewin thanx for the suggestion. ;)
How good is LG206WTQ,226WTQ. Both have pretty good specs but not much reviews around. :confused:
 
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desiibond

desiibond

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emmarbee said:
No, its not like that. Even I was thinking the same. whether to buy 20" or 22", but my 22" is good. Of course I can't say about the quality when compared with 20" , but the 22" at 1680x1050 is not as I thought. Good for text, movies and gaming ! ! !
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Overclocking on Intel motherboard : *www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/7297-definitive-answer-can-i-overclock-my.html

Intel overclocking guide: *www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/1567-intel-overclocking-guide.html

Make sure to keep RAM frequency in control if you are using value ram like transcend. FSB overclock increases RAM frequency and you have to decrease the RAM frequency to keep it stable.

eg: I overclocked my Athlon64 3000+'s FSB and the resulting RAM frequency went up to DDR 550MHz+. So, I had to bring down RAM's core clock down to 133Mhz from 200Mhz and the final frequnecy was some 440MHz which is acceptable for this transcend RAM
 
mathi_vadhanan

mathi_vadhanan

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^^ desi.. he can overclock only by software and not through BIOS. OCing thru softwares will yield a maximum of 5% OC. There's no way his RAM frequency is going to go off-limits. You will have to keep check on the RAM frequency only when you OC through BIOS by increasing the FSB.
@emmarbee, i think your processor is the bottleneck in your system, hence the 100% usage. Try getting atleast a E2180 for Rs. 3,000/-.
 
desiibond

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^ ah. didn't know that. The SW overclock that came with my gigabyte mobo was pretty good.

Anyways, haven't used Intel proccy for years now. :(
 
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acewin

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does anyone has idea of HP 2207 model.
Its around 18500 including all taxes, this model is not given on site and is older model, but I tried contacting HP dealer and he said that is the only available model.

I will try negotiations but before that wanna know if it is good
 
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emmarbee

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acewin said:
does anyone has idea of HP 2207 model.
Its around 18500 including all taxes, this model is not given on site and is older model, but I tried contacting HP dealer and he said that is the only available model.

I will try negotiations but before that wanna know if it is good
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No hw2207. No.
I've read in anandtech that it's viewing angle is not good. Even I was dying to buy that monitor for months cause of its aethetics and glossy panel.
If you still feel like buying it, take a look at this.

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*images.anandtech.com/reviews/monitor/2007/hp-w2207/hp-w2207-angles.jpg

And here's the article:
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*www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3054

They have compared it with other monitors and they have given the images of those monitor's performance too. According to that review, the monitor is good. But they haven't reviewed the SP2208WFP, so you can't compare it.


But in CNET they have reviewd both the monitors.
Dell SP2208WFP scores 8.4 and hp w2207 7.6.

Here are the links

Dell SP2208WFP
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*reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/dell-sp2208wfp/4505-3174_7-32909878.html?ttag=rev_spon_prod&tag=prod.txt.1

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*reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/hp-w2207-lcd-monitor/4505-3174_7-32391039.html?tag=prod.txt.1

Hope you find them useful.
 
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acewin

Point Blanc
dell 2208 is overall very good. Its just taht I am an HP employee and if I buy it in a good price, I will also get 12% of the amount reimbursed.

THough I was looking for HP 2245, but they say its not available. I do not know how they put things on site and never provide in market this is not a new thing for HP.

@sagargv I wanna suggestion here. from SP Road, Bangalore I can get by paying just around 16.6K total unlike from Dell site as per emmar which comes onto 17.2
Should I buy from local market or direct from Dell.

In meanwhile I am also trying to get info if there is any Dell Employee in my friends contac so that I can get the monitor in cheaper price.
 
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spikygv

Wise Old Owl
^^ u can get a good price reduction if u go through a dell employee.

17.2 is not much greater than 16.6k , so y not directly get from dell ? that way , u'll leave the middleman out.
 
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emmarbee

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sagargv said:
^^ u can get a good price reduction if u go through a dell employee.

17.2 is not much greater than 16.6k , so y not directly get from dell ? that way , u'll leave the middleman out.
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sagargv, its not a middle man - that would be his friend working at dell, which is really a good thing. of course 600 INR doesn't matter, but if he does thru dell employee there is possibility of getting more discount.

@acewin - have you seen those discounts on "DELL" U.S site, at some special ocassions, they offer some great discounts. And they give discounts even with coupon/discount/promotional codes. SO if you catch a dell employee, you can ask him when will the next discount period comes (or) you can ask him for those discount codes (or) you can ask him to buy him the monitor at cheap price straigh away.

P.S - IMHO, TN Panel s****! Though my monitor is good, I can't get the feel that I've got in my CRT. So it's better, you ask some one of your friends who is at U.S to get you a Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP ($599 - US price, in our site it's 51k ).

sagargv said:
no , VLC player does not support dxva . If u want to use purevideoHD , then u have to use one of these.

purevideoHD works equally well in vista and XP now.
****** upgrade to latest nvidia drivers ******

1. power DVD - cpu usage dropped to 6-8 % while running die hard 4.0 1080p trailer . but it wont read matroska files ( .mkv ) . if u use haali's matroska splitter , then purevideoHD acceleration is gone , cpu usage 100% , choppy video.

2. intervideo winDVD - havent tried
3. nero showtime - havent tried.

4, media player classic home cinema 1.1.604 + haali's media splitter to run mkv -in MPC home cinema , goto view -> options -> output . select vmr9 and in the right select 3d surfaces and bicubic filtering . .this will use dxva and run matroska files. . cpu usage hovers around 12- 21 % for both 720p and 1080p . good framerates and u get subtitles . but this is far from the perfect solution. video HAS to encoded in some specific formats which conform with some standards. if not , then dxva wont work . some say this is due to DRM . so , many video's encoded by non-pro's cant use dxva. .

the above tests , i did in XP. powerDVD works in vista also. . for MPC home cinema , choose EVR custom instead of VMR9 in the options ( maybe , vmr9 works in vista , but i'm not sure. ..) but i'm sure evr works.

Also note that codecs such as ffdshow , coreAVC DO NOT support dxva. they use the CPU only. . so make sure that they dont come in the way.

i thought i should write this in a tutorial since many guys in this forum own 8 or 9 series cards. . but then again , its quite simple and most can figure it out easily themselves.
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Hats off sagargv! You were right. The Purevideo HD solves all the problems. I didn't try it after reading your post, in fact at first I didn't understand what you were trying to say. But then I google up with the keyword "Hardware accelratation" and ended up with installing Purevideo HD. I thought only some of the players like Powerdvd, WinDVD, JRMedia center supports Hardware acceleration, but its not like that. After installing purevideo HD, I saw significant decrease in the usage of CPU for playing HD videos thru MPC and Neuview. Now I'm contended with my D930 & 9600 GT combination. And ya, you must probably write a tutorial on this.
 
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emmarbee

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desiibond said:
^^ ah. didn't know that. The SW overclock that came with my gigabyte mobo was pretty good.

Anyways, haven't used Intel proccy for years now. :(
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It would be nice if someone suggest me with a good 5.1 Speakers.
Current Speakers - Creative Inspire 5200

My budget: 4,000 - 20,000.


Requirements: I will be using it for multi purpose. I've got around 30 GB of music files including many FLAC and 320 KBPS. Also have many audio cds currently using on my KEF+MARANTZ stereo system. So the audio quality in stereo mode should be atleast acceptable but need not be great.
But 5.1 sound and movie/games effects like gun fires/bullets should be top notch.



What I've chosen so far.

Altec Lansing VS3251 with wireless remote. Price: 3650 INR
Logitech X540 no wireless remotre. Price: 4900 INR
Logitech Z 5500 with DTS/DOLBY decoder. Price: 18250 INR

Is Logitech G51 better than Altec Lansing VS 3251? (It might sound surprising to compare both, but according to DIGIT Apr '08, both performed more or less in a same way.

If there are some better options please let me know.

P.S
A week ago, I was with my friends, who were about to purchase speakers. One of them bought Altec Lansing VS 3251 because of my suggestion and another bought Logitech Z 5500 due to everybody's(me and many online reviews) suggestion.

I heard Logitech Z 5500 by myself. The SUB was GR8. But since my friend had not set up the speakers in their exact positions(all speakers were more or less in the same place), I didn't get impressed by the performance of Logitech Z 5500.
I didn't get a chance to hear the Altec Lansing speakers by myself, but my friend told that it was not at all good. The sub woofer was very soft and light, and he said sometimes he forget the presence of the sub woofer. He also added that the sub woofer accompanied with my Creative inspire 5200 was far better than HIS. So now I'm left with Logitech Z 5500 and Logitech X540.


I'm also looking out for a sound card. Is it really necessary? Is the on-board audio of 945 GNTL better than creative sound cards?
 
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