Quad core for Gaming?

[MetalheadGautham]

^^Not really. AMD is going to launch AM2+ only DDR2 version mid/low end CPUs first, along with high end AM3 DDR3 CPUs. Mid range AM3 come later.

And yeah, AMD's new naming scheme is NOT like nehalem. Nehalem removed a digit (4digit to 3digit) and AMD added one (from 4digit to 5digit).

This Phenom2 amuses me. Its almost like AMD agreeing that their best Phenoms only competed with Core, and These Phenom2 are for competing with Core2, while nehalem shall remain untouched.

 

[damngoodman999]

Phenom II is both the DDR 2 and DDR3 controller , everything is AM2+ socket

AMD fans will be more happy that they need to change only the processor , AMD is good in understanding people

DENEB is also the AM2+ socket , if DENEB doesn't beat the corei7 proc also no probs at all , AMD is giving the price performance

Spending $600-$700 for the corei7 processor and motherboard is sh!t ,

 

[MetalheadGautham]

^^wrong you are. Some Denebs will be launched exclusively for AM2+ and won't support DDR2. Thats only in the begining, and AMD says its because DDR3 prices and AM3 prices need to stabilise for budget concious customers to consider it.

 

[damngoodman999]

I heared DENEBS are both DDR2 & DDR3 controller ?????

Phenom II 900 is AM2+ socket and DDR2 controller - its a midrange CPU is it right ????


tell me if i am wrong ???

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Well, Deneb can fit in both AM2+ (DDR2) and AM3 (DDR3) sockets. But AMD is launching some denebs which are without DDR3 controller exclusively for DDR2 boards. Must be another marketing gimmick I guess. Perhaps it will make people buy it in their cheap 780G boards but they will be tempted to upgrade a year or two later not just the CPU but the whole setup.

 

[damngoodman999]

Well, Deneb can fit in both AM2+ (DDR2) and AM3 (DDR3) sockets. But AMD is launching some denebs which are without DDR3 controller exclusively for DDR2 boards. Must be another marketing gimmick I guess. Perhaps it will make people buy it in their cheap 780G boards but they will be tempted to upgrade a year or two later not just the CPU but the whole setup.

Did u heard of PHENOM II X900 processor ???

which comes with 8MB L2cache !! can u tell me about this ?? it is going to launch in jan09

 

[MetalheadGautham]

^^Phenom2 high end will all obviously be AM3. Wikipedia can help you.
And information is always subject to change, for example, AMD dropped the riddiculous 2xxxx naming system idea.
*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors

And yeah, read this too *www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3457&p=2

Anyway, The Phenom for AM2 will be called Athlon X4. Nice name IMO. No L3 cache.

 

[NIGHTMARE]

guys i m using intel but i m fan of AMD this company always launched every product is value for for money for customer dealer r having low margin in AMD item but in the case of INTEL they give long margin and push dealer to don't occupy any AMD products in ur stocks.When intel launched any new high end CPU then send for testing to any one like anandtech or tomshardware or many of them INTEL never take back the CPU,RAM,MOB, from him just leave it i know lot of things they doing. correct me if i m wrong

 

[damngoodman999]

@ nightmare

i ll accept u !! cause i already told 2 weeks before that in my place all the VENDORS are pushing me to buy INTEL , when i told i need AMD they hesitate to ask the distributor after only i heared the same LOW MARGIN for the DISTRIBUTOR so no one is going for the AMD .

i asked this processor"AMD PHENOM X4 9550" only i need the VENDOR gave with hesitation and he told u ll get problem on buying this proccy

See i never used AMD before i was using INTEL about for 5 years of 3 computers

1) INTEL PENTIUM 4 2.2ghz => this one is great at that time nice in basic games even i played farcry @ medium using 64MB gfx card

2) INTEL DUAL CORE 3.44ghz => this processor is really a SH!T , gives no speed in games even i used 7600GT for "BATTLEFIELD 2"

3)finally INTEL CORE2DUO E4400 =>Non sense CPU i would recommend any not to buy this SH!T for gaming and anything damn it , i sold it with in 2 months

Then my friend told about changing the cpu , by the time i never heard about AMD performance , so i decided to spend atleast 5K - 6K for AMD CPU , so i bought AMD PHENOM X4 9550 @ 7K and cheap motherboard of 780i chipset/ really with the on board GFX and with CPU power i played "CRYSIS" medium @ 1024 X 768 getting 28 FPS

SURE i am not an AMD fan but , i am happy with my PHENOM 9550 ,

IN EUROPE , AMD proccy sold 78% more than INTEL in 2005-2008

In America everyone still trust on AMD , cause Phenom is first mistake over gaming computer so , they are waiting for the Phenom 2


Every one still remember AMD ATHLON breaks the INTEL pentium 4 in GRAPHICAL and GAMING needs , where INTEL succeeded in core2duo

I too trust in phenom2 over the gaming needs ???

 

[MetalheadGautham]

AMD can at the maximum make their Phenom II CPUs highly overclockable at low voltages and ensure that they beat atleast Core2. Because Deneb is just a die shrink of Agnea.

 

[damngoodman999]

^^ u r comparing the processor of "8MB L3 cache + 4MB L2 cache (45nm) DENEB processor" with the Core2Duo ???

Phenom II architecture is far more better than Core2Duo in all platform , u can compare with the Core2quad over Q9300 & above

See u underestimated the AMD X4 because the processor "PHENOM" is already a failure before they launch due to their TLB issues , then they only cleared the TLB issues then released as "PHENOM 9X5X" series thats all AMD dint put much interest on Phenom 1

Core2Duo E8500 => 128MB L1 cache + 6MB L2 cache of 3.16Ghz with 45nm
Phenom II 900 => 512MB L1 cache + 4MB L2 cache + 8MB L3 cache of 3Ghz with 45nm

see , have some patience when comparing the processors !!!

 

[Psychosocial]

Whatever you AMD fanbois (not pointing towards anyone but whoever is one.) brag about, right now, Intel is the best, it is ruling the market and it sold a LOT more than AMD. I aint against AMD but if you are a fan of a company, dont drag it over here. Be neutral over here. You gotta accept the truth.

 

[damngoodman999]

i am not an AMD fan boy , this thread is about "PHENOM II" i mean Quad core. i am talking about that dude

I truly accept that Intel is good now , but i guess AMD will be matching Intels performance soon .

I dont mind whether INTEL or AMD is gona make out in 2009 but i need the "quad core to be best in playing the Upcoming games " it may be INTEL or AMD i will upgrade in JUNE/09 , INTEL or AMD proccy runs the game "FEAR 2" @ getting high FPS

cheers - the News reviewed that "FEAR 2" is a game like crysis based on the CPU & GPU

 

[MetalheadGautham]

^^ u r comparing the processor of "8MB L3 cache + 4MB L2 cache (45nm) DENEB processor" with the Core2Duo ???

I said Core2, not Core2Duo. Core2 is an architecture, like Phenom2.

Phenom II architecture is far more better than Core2Duo in all platform , u can compare with the Core2quad over Q9300 & above

Lolz, Q9300 is supposed to be the second weakest Core2 quad core CPU of Intel.

See u underestimated the AMD X4 because the processor "PHENOM" is already a failure before they launch due to their TLB issues , then they only cleared the TLB issues then released as "PHENOM 9X5X" series thats all AMD dint put much interest on Phenom 1

No comments.

Core2Duo E8500 => 128MB L1 cache + 6MB L2 cache of 3.16Ghz with 45nm
Phenom II 900 => 512MB L1 cache + 4MB L2 cache + 8MB L3 cache of 3Ghz with 45nm

*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif

see , have some patience when comparing the processors !!!

I see. You read digit ? Well, I don't want to do much talking, but please go to the CPU shootout of November. Very entertaining results for you. Comparison of Q8200 w/4mb L2 cache at clock of 2.33GHz vs Phenom X4 9850BE at 2.5GHz.

 

[damngoodman999]

Cool i dont want to argue!!!

 

[toofan]

AMD Phenom x4 9650:/Intel Core 2 Q8200
pc mark05: 6533/7540
3D Mark2006:3358/3791
Maya 8.0: 41sec/21sec
UT3: 101/142
Dhoom2: 177.8/209.9
COH: 243.9/285.8
Price: 7600/10785
title: Editor's Pick/ Best Buy

These are the comparisons form Digit shootout past month.
Now which is better Editor's Pick or Best Buy.

 

[SenthilAnandh]

AMD Phenom x4 9650:/Intel Core 2 Q8200
pc mark05: 6533/7540
3D Mark2006:3358/3791
Maya 8.0: 41sec/21sec
UT3: 101/142
Dhoom2: 177.8/209.9
COH: 243.9/285.8
Price: 7600/10785
title: Editor's Pick/ Best Buy

These are the comparisons form Digit shootout past month.
Now which is better Editor's Pick or Best Buy.

AMD Phenom x4 9650. It should be the best buy. For a price range of 7K there is no intel quad. At a price range of 9.5K Phenom X4 9950 will beat intel quad Q6600 which is also 9.5k. I am saying in price wise comparison, please dont say Q6600 is old. Please do all your comparisons price wise which is more suitable for India.

Intel - For those who are called as enthusiast (or who has more money to spend )
Amd - For all mainstream people and mid-range gamers segment. (More suitable for India)

But in India vendors who know nothing about cpu and who cares nothing about professional ethics and about giving best to a mid-range consumer will push only Intel as this is more money for them.

Amd fails in only one thing - MARKETING.

 

[Psychosocial]

Cool i dont want to argue!!!

Coz you dont have enough points to defend your fanboyism.

*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif

Ya... 512MB cache

 

[vish786]

AMD Phenom x4 9650:/Intel Core 2 Q8200
pc mark05: 6533/7540
3D Mark2006:3358/3791
Maya 8.0: 41sec/21sec
UT3: 101/142
Dhoom2: 177.8/209.9
COH: 243.9/285.8
Price: 7600/10785
title: Editor's Pick/ Best Buy

These are the comparisons form Digit shootout past month.
Now which is better Editor's Pick or Best Buy.

thanks for writing it down.

 

[damngoodman999]

Coz you dont have enough points to defend your fanboyism.

If we talk it goes goes and going on we can talk . see why i am talking on the side of AMD means if everyone says INTEL is best there will not be any conversation so i just pick up the side for while thats all .

"AMD" is not my dad's company or else neighbor !!!

See once again i tell u " I AM NOT A AMD FANBOY"