Pre-Installed Linux Tops Dell Customer Requests
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subratabera
Just another linux lover.
You are right, but still a great news...pathiks said:
Desktop Linux is already dead or will die out very soon. From how many years are we hearing about Linux on the desktop?. Every year is hailed as the 'Year of the Linux desktop' by Linux fanatics. So far nothing has happenned. I doubt if anything will ever happen. Linux is being given out free for so many years & still not more than a glorious 3% marketshare.
ilugd
Beware of the innocent
not so sure about that borg. As long as there are people who are interested in learning and tweaking and hacking away at internals, they will manage to make Linux more easy, though more powerful and feature rich. The reason Linux is so famous is that it shows what can be done by a community's effort. Do read up its history and the current trend before making silly prophecies. The IT Managers at my company are too outdated and afraid of trying anything new. I suggested Linux last year but they shook me off. Now they too seem interested in know more about it to use in the next phase of IT Implementations. You may not see much in public but slowly and surely Linux is gaining ground, establishing a firm foothold. You know what the good thing is about the way Linux is spreading? It is not going to be a nine day wonder.
Oh, and by the way, I do not regularly use Linux, nor am I its fanboy.
Oh, and by the way, I do not regularly use Linux, nor am I its fanboy.
I do use Linux daily on my PC, but don't see why anyone, apart from computer & OS enthusiasts, would want to use it on the desktop. Linux may be ideal for programming, servers, etc, but the scenario is very different when it comes general to desktop use.
And I am not prophecising here. Check the CIO verdict for example-
*news.zdnet.com/2100-9590_22-6134965.html
And I am not prophecising here. Check the CIO verdict for example-
*news.zdnet.com/2100-9590_22-6134965.html
praka123
left this forum longback
do u want a monopoly to grow which will install restrictions like DRM,microsoft think
it is completely wrong saying Linux is not growing....did u know that microsoft does pays for these sort of news backing the windows os.
then why does microsoft trying to destroy linux?FUDing SCoing...ready to sue for patents..
read more:
*www.linux-watch.com/news/NS2225368488.html
GNU/Linux is a superior OS.@tleast is a UNIX like OS.why do bigs like IBM supports it?but the dumpheads are yet to understand the meaning of collaborative development-Open Source.even there are alternates growing fast to grab Microsoft's share -like soon to be GPLed Open Solaris from SUN or PC-BSD etc...frankly seeing leave apart the fan content do you want MS to have Windows as the monopoly OS?what will we benefit?Bill will get more money.....
but you may be correct; lot of bad blood is there to keep u away from Open SOurce Operating Systems and to keep ur belief that Linux is not suitable for Desktops.
but i have to agree that windows is a very easy one for newbies to start on.Linux as present does need some learning of CLI even for a desktop user.but again if ur coming to computers,you are here to learn something rather watching movies?after this mild learning curve,Linux or BSD's are definitely addictive and for a real man-u never need to have a second thought of going to windows back.most apps are now available in Linux..may be some exceptions like photoshop etc...
*whylinuxisbetter.net
it is completely wrong saying Linux is not growing....did u know that microsoft does pays for these sort of news backing the windows os.
then why does microsoft trying to destroy linux?FUDing SCoing...ready to sue for patents..
read more:
*www.linux-watch.com/news/NS2225368488.html
GNU/Linux is a superior OS.@tleast is a UNIX like OS.why do bigs like IBM supports it?but the dumpheads are yet to understand the meaning of collaborative development-Open Source.even there are alternates growing fast to grab Microsoft's share -like soon to be GPLed Open Solaris from SUN or PC-BSD etc...frankly seeing leave apart the fan content do you want MS to have Windows as the monopoly OS?what will we benefit?Bill will get more money.....
but you may be correct; lot of bad blood is there to keep u away from Open SOurce Operating Systems and to keep ur belief that Linux is not suitable for Desktops.
This may be true for misinformed.after running a modern Linux distro like Debian Ubuntu as a Desktop OS,I dont think U ever need to go back to ur copy of M$ Windows whether it is pirated or what.borg said:
but i have to agree that windows is a very easy one for newbies to start on.Linux as present does need some learning of CLI even for a desktop user.but again if ur coming to computers,you are here to learn something rather watching movies?after this mild learning curve,Linux or BSD's are definitely addictive and for a real man-u never need to have a second thought of going to windows back.most apps are now available in Linux..may be some exceptions like photoshop etc...
*whylinuxisbetter.net
ssdivisiongermany1933
Still in war with allies
I even use linux more than windows , Linux is good
Man, the CIO is hardly a group without any credibility. These kind of conspiracy theories are double edged swords. If MS pays to put Windows look good, there is no reason to believe that Novell, Red Hat & the millions of Linux fanatics don't do the same. Though they may not be paying to make Linux look good, it is a known fact the Linux fanatics (due to their religious feelings for Linux) skew facts to meet their desired conclusions. Spend two minutes reading Steven Vaughan Nicholas' articles to see what I am refering to.
Microsoft is a company trying to make profit & it will obviously try to make it's products look good with respect to the competition. Same goes for everyone else, including Linux. People should get over it.
mediator
Technomancer
U may create a poll in "open source" section and find out urself how many people use it as primary Desktop OS and may also ask them their qualifications.borg said:
Many people "when it comes general to desktop use" only do office work (documents etc), listen to music, surf and watch movies!
Tech.Masti
Wise Old Owl
yes... its growing, mainly in offices...they are trying to save money using Open Source, some state govt. are already using linux.... in other private offices are also using OSS..... in home, some people dont want to test linux, they want to stay in a secure area(windows), some people not interested in linux because they have to learn how to use linux (dont have much time)... some using FREE windows.... so they don't need to changeover.... here if u try to find out , u will get lots of cause why some people not interested in linux...
kumarmohit
Technomancer
@ Mediator, I totally agree that creating a poll in "Open Source" section of forum will generate results favoring Linux. Infact linux may even get favourable result for entire forum,.
But u must be equally aware the in a country like India where PCs are sold by [sarcasm] Highly Knowledgeable [/sarcasm] System Assemblers, Net connectivity is Windows friendly ISPs like Sify ( whose Linux and mac clients are - well lesser said the better) and MTNL/BSNL/Sify whose [sarcasm] Tech Staff and Tech support staff [/sarcasm]are only trained (can you believe it, trained - considering their knowledge, I dont) over Windows. Windows will be found on most PCs.
I am not saying which is the best OS as there is none or which is a better OS (which is a relative term - for me its ReactOS as it gives me the freedom of FOSS with application umbrella of windows). I am talking about the Indians who are not much into computers but have a PC and in some cases a net connection too.
Instead of picking up the forum, pick up a a geographical area and consider the number of Home PCs and the number of Home PCs (not servers) running Linux as compared to those running Windows.
Sorry for being Offtopic
Now its a good move by Dell and will be greeted by people like me coz this means that Dell PCs will not com preinstalled with unwanted crap like readers and demos and whatever nonsense they stuff on PCs with Windows.
But u must be equally aware the in a country like India where PCs are sold by [sarcasm] Highly Knowledgeable [/sarcasm] System Assemblers, Net connectivity is Windows friendly ISPs like Sify ( whose Linux and mac clients are - well lesser said the better) and MTNL/BSNL/Sify whose [sarcasm] Tech Staff and Tech support staff [/sarcasm]are only trained (can you believe it, trained - considering their knowledge, I dont) over Windows. Windows will be found on most PCs.
I am not saying which is the best OS as there is none or which is a better OS (which is a relative term - for me its ReactOS as it gives me the freedom of FOSS with application umbrella of windows). I am talking about the Indians who are not much into computers but have a PC and in some cases a net connection too.
Instead of picking up the forum, pick up a a geographical area and consider the number of Home PCs and the number of Home PCs (not servers) running Linux as compared to those running Windows.
Sorry for being Offtopic
Now its a good move by Dell and will be greeted by people like me coz this means that Dell PCs will not com preinstalled with unwanted crap like readers and demos and whatever nonsense they stuff on PCs with Windows.
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mediator
Technomancer
^^I understand. But he asked "why" shud different people use it and not "how many today" use it. I hope I was clear.
There are many people who have only linux loaded on their systems and doing everything they want on their system. Then there r people who outta curiosity have installed linux n dual boot with windows. There r also people who find more pleasure in doing almost all tasks in linux (coz of its known security and stabilty) than doing it in windows but still dual boot just to play hi-fi games in windows.
I hope u got my point. Linux has entered Desktop world. Most noobies here n there just keep on installing different distros. They don't actually realise that the point is about getting used to the OS first and understand how it works. There was a time when I first used windows and copied the shortcut to the "mario" game to floppy thinking that I actually copied the whole game. I didn't know how to install stuff, maintain my pc and used to call my system engineer to fix the problems. Is that what u call "ease" of an OS?
Gradually I started "learning" how its done! I bet I'm not the only one and there are zillions like me. Maybe there r some rare cases who r born genius.
So for such noobies, they shud spend more time with one particualr distro and not mastering the knowledge of "how to install linux". Once they get used to it, they will really find out themselves how much "desktop" use it has!!
There are many people who have only linux loaded on their systems and doing everything they want on their system. Then there r people who outta curiosity have installed linux n dual boot with windows. There r also people who find more pleasure in doing almost all tasks in linux (coz of its known security and stabilty) than doing it in windows but still dual boot just to play hi-fi games in windows.
I hope u got my point. Linux has entered Desktop world. Most noobies here n there just keep on installing different distros. They don't actually realise that the point is about getting used to the OS first and understand how it works. There was a time when I first used windows and copied the shortcut to the "mario" game to floppy thinking that I actually copied the whole game. I didn't know how to install stuff, maintain my pc and used to call my system engineer to fix the problems. Is that what u call "ease" of an OS?
Gradually I started "learning" how its done! I bet I'm not the only one and there are zillions like me. Maybe there r some rare cases who r born genius.
So for such noobies, they shud spend more time with one particualr distro and not mastering the knowledge of "how to install linux". Once they get used to it, they will really find out themselves how much "desktop" use it has!!
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