bssunilreddy

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Power Supply Suggestion thread 2017-18





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Source:PSU Tier List (India) - Google Sheet


Table created by chimera201+

Edit: Jan 2019
Currently the only recommendations are:

Corsair:
CX/M series (5 years warranty)
TXM series (7 years warranty)
RMx series (10 years warranty)

Antec:
Earthwatts Gold Pro (7 years warranty <-- make sure)

Any models from Cooler Master or Thermaltake doesn't beat these and Seasonic has outdated PSUs.

 
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gta5

Ambassador of Buzz
this list is outdated ...

- Old Corsair VS , CX has been discontinued , replaced by new and better version ..
( VS series has now become good .. with 100 % teapo caps made by HEC )

- New CX has 5 year warranty .. made by CWT and Great wall both
( old ones are out of stock at many places , so new series must be launching soon in india )

- Then New Cooler master GX storm edition is excellent now , made by CWT , with 100 % Japanese caps and
in some aspects better than Seasonic s12ii ... for same or better price gx 550 @ Rs 5500 @smcinternational

- Seasonic s12ii and M12ii are End of life ... going to be replaced with Core and Core +series next quarter

- Coolermaster thunder and B series have been discontinued , replaced by Masterwattlite series .. even the new Elite series now comes with active PFC

and in my opinion , having this big list on front page doesn't do much good..

[Rather have 2 or 3 best models for every price category
recommendation of which should be based on proper multiple reviews and discussions ..

like 2 or 3 best PSU's under Rs 3000 , under Rs 5000 , under Rs 7000 etc.. that will actually be useful ..

somebody who is completely new to PSU's .. looking at this big list , might get even more confused ...

the list is great , and once updated , add it in addition to the above in link form or 2nd post
 
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bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Updated PSU List 2016-17

Best PSU’s under 3000 (Non-Modular)
Corsair VS350, Corsair VS450, Antec VP450P, Antec BP450PS, Thermaltake TR2 S 500.

Best PSU’s under 4000 (Non-Modular)
Corsair VS450, Corsair VS550, Antec VP550P, Corsair CX430, Thermaltake TR2 600

Best PSU’s under 5000 (Modular, Non-Modular)
Seasonic S12II 430, Corsair VS650, Antec VP650P, Corsair CX450M, Thermaltake TR2 700

Best PSU’s under 6000 (Modular, Non-Modular)
Seasonic S12II520, Corsair CX550M, Antec VP700P, Cooler Master GX550, Thermaltake TR2 800

Best PSU’s under 7000 (Modular, Non-Modular)
Seasonic S12II 620, Seasonic M12II520, Corsair CX650M, Cooler Master GX650, Corsair CS650M

Best PSU’s under 8000 (Modular, Non-Modular)
Seasonic M12II 620, Corsair CX750M, Cooler Master GX750, Corsair CS750M, Silverstone SFX 450
 
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chimera201

Wise Old Owl
this list is outdated ...

Outdated yes last update was Dec 25,2016. But still relevant since the recommended PSUs are still the same.

- Old Corsair VS , CX has been discontinued , replaced by new and better version ..
( VS series has now become good .. with 100 % teapo caps made by HEC )

Discontinued yes, but still selling...
The new ones aren't in stock.


- New CX has 5 year warranty .. made by CWT and Great wall both
( old ones are out of stock at many places , so new series must be launching soon in india )

The new CXM series is already in the list. The other ones are still to launch.


- Then New Cooler master GX storm edition is excellent now , made by CWT , with 100 % Japanese caps and
in some aspects better than Seasonic s12ii ... for same or better price gx 550 @ Rs 5500 @smcinternational

Waiting for professional reviews... Don't go on recommending this just yet. Coolermaster has a history of false advertising with PSUs and has only launched this in the Asian market. There could be some flaws that only western professional reviewers can catch...It supports 115V range so it could possibly release in US too. US is the biggest market for quality PSUs and it would be a waste to not release in US unless there is some problem with the PSU...It might be good and they are just probably testing it out in the Asian market first.


- Seasonic s12ii and M12ii are End of life ... going to be replaced with Core and Core +series next quarter
Still selling...

Coolermaster thunder and B series have been discontinued , replaced by Masterwattlite series .. even the new Elite series now comes with active PFC

Still selling...


and in my opinion , having this big list on front page doesn't do much good..


[Rather have 2 or 3 best models for every price category
recommendation of which should be based on proper multiple reviews and discussions ..


like 2 or 3 best PSU's under Rs 3000 , under Rs 5000 , under Rs 7000 etc.. that will actually be useful ..


somebody who is completely new to PSU's .. looking at this big list , might get even more confused ...

If you try suggesting a PSU to a newbie the first question you will get is why aren't you recommending X, Y, Z PSU? (as if you don't know about them)
The best VFM PSUs are highlighted btw.
 

quicky008

Technomancer
this list is outdated ...

- Old Corsair VS , CX has been discontinued , replaced by new and better version ..
( VS series has now become good .. with 100 % teapo caps made by HEC )

Are you sure that this is indeed the case?is there any way to check whether a vs450 comprises of teapo or capxxon capacitors?Do the newer units that use teapo caps have some kind of serial no. that can be used to identify them easily?
 

chimera201

Wise Old Owl
Are you sure that this is indeed the case?is there any way to check whether a vs450 comprises of teapo or capxxon capacitors?Do the newer units that use teapo caps have some kind of serial no. that can be used to identify them easily?

From latest to oldest:
VS400 (CP-9020117 / RPS0021) latest
VS450 (75-001835 / CP-9020096)
VS450 (75-001835 / CP-9020049)
VS450 (CP-9020009) oldest
 

gta5

Ambassador of Buzz
Are you sure that this is indeed the case?is there any way to check whether a vs450 comprises of teapo or capxxon capacitors?Do the newer units that use teapo caps have some kind of serial no. that can be used to identify them easily?

Yes new Vs 400 have 100 % teapo caps..

here is a review

Review-Corsair VS400 – f1

and 1 more confirmation

Corsair VS shiny white label - Page 2 - jonnyGURU Forums

Chimera has given you the serial number .. otherwise there is no Vs 450 with the new models.. The new series consists of VS 400 , 500 , 600 and now the new VS and CX series now has a white label instead of old yellow/green ..

Use this link as a reference..

CORSAIR - PSU Review Database

VS 450 doesn't have Teapo .. it has a mix of Capxon, jun fu , su'scon , aishi caps in secondary , and Capxon/Elite in primary. All are of same class..

As far as i know there is no review of the last Vs 450 model ( CP-9020096 ) .. here is a review of an older version

Corsair VS450 Revie

for the latest VS450 revision .. you can use this Corsair VS 650W as a reference..

600 Watt budget PSUs Battle - PC TeK REVIEWS
 
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quicky008

Technomancer
Yes new Vs 400 have 100 % teapo caps..

here is a review

Review-Corsair VS400 – f1

and 1 more confirmation

Corsair VS shiny white label - Page 2 - jonnyGURU Forums

Chimera has given you the serial number .. otherwise there is no Vs 450 with the new models.. The new series consists of VS 400 , 500 , 600 and now the new VS and CX series now has a white label instead of old yellow/green ..

Use this link as a reference..

CORSAIR - PSU Review Database

VS 450 doesn't have Teapo .. it has a mix of Capxon, jun fu , su'scon , aishi caps in secondary , and Capxon/Elite in primary. All are of same class..

Thanks for sharing this comprehensive info,looks like i am squarely out of luck as mine has the product id:CP-9020096.Even though the older vs series psus have officially been discontinued it seems they are still being sold in india and the newer units don't appear to be in stock anywhere.

Some websites claim that teapo's caps are really not that good either and are plagued by quality issues(quite like capxon in fact)-do you know anything about this?
 

gta5

Ambassador of Buzz
Thanks for sharing this comprehensive info,looks like i am squarely out of luck as mine has the product id:CP-9020096.Even though the older vs series psus have officially been discontinued it seems they are still being sold in india and the newer units don't appear to be in stock anywhere.

Some websites claim that teapo's caps are really not that good either and are plagued by quality issues(quite like capxon in fact)-do you know anything about this?

Yes what is selling is left over old stock

They are starting to get out of stock ..

Search : Corsair Vs
Corsair VS 350 Power Supply Unit - Hardwire.in
CORSAIR SMPS CX500 - 500 WATT 80 PLUS BRONZE CERTIFICATION PSU WITH ACTIVE PF
CORSAIR SMPS CX600 - 600 WATT 80 PLUS BRONZE CERTIFICATION PSU WITH ACTIVE PF
Buy Corsair CX 500 W PSU Online | Indi
http://hardwire.in/power-supply-units/297-corsair-cx-600-power-supply-unit.html


These new models are selling in other countries , they are probably giving time to indian retailers to sell their old stock first and then launch new series..

Teapo caps are far better than Capxon ,junfu , aishi for sure.. none of these taiwanese caps are a match for japanese one's...

it also depends on which series they belong to , but Generally Teapo if not subjected to excess heat , can last a long time ..
but capxon on the other hand are so infamous for failing early.. all this info based on badcaps.net .. you can search there

but even capxon's will last you 3-4 years if you don't stress your PSU too much ..
 
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quicky008

Technomancer
India is often treated as the dumping ground for all manners of obsolete and inferior quality products,so its hardly surprising that older vs series psus are still being sold here.Another thing that i find particularly baffling is that in the official product page for vs450,corsair claims that it uses "high quality capacitors" for increased reliability-i wonder why a company of such repute as corsair is deliberately displaying such false info even though these psus use lower-grade capxon caps,is it a bid to lure unsuspecting customers into buying their products by misleading them with inaccurate facts?
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
After going through the below thread I decided against buying any corsair products for the near future(though I will not recommend against getting corsair,just a personal choice).
Is Corsair Trying To Fool Us?

P.S.The above thread is related to Corsair RAM & is quite technical in nature & not understandable for a majority of typical users.Summary of the above thread is that Corsair is not being honest about their ram technical specifications by burying the exact details in a pile of other not-so-relevant information.
 
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chimera201

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After going through the below thread I decided against buying any corsair products for the near future(though I will not recommend against getting corsair,just a personal choice).
Is Corsair Trying To Fool Us?

P.S.The above thread is related to Corsair RAM & is quite technical in nature & not understandable for a majority of typical users.Summary of the above thread is that Corsair is not being honest about their ram technical specifications by burying the exact details in a pile of other not-so-relevant information.

Corsair shows the actual speeds on it's product page:
e.g. tech specs tab
Vengeance® — 8GB DDR3 Memory Kit (CMZ8GX3M1A1600C9)
You see "SPD Speed" and "Tested Speed". You get tested speed by enabling XMP profile.
Actually the more worse offender would be Kingston. They also increase the voltage for the higher speed. The voltage might not conform to JEDEC spec.
 
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whitestar_999

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^^That is the whole point.Vengeance is supposed to be a "performance ram" unlike their value series so if they are selling it by highlighting it as 1600C9 ram then it should be enabled by default automatically without any user intervention(aka JEDEC/SPD profile) & should not require manually activating XMP profile(or memory timings) to achieve the same.The point made in that thread was that a few years back Corsair did not do such things & a vengeance 1600C9 ram was exactly what it said without doing any thing on user's end(aka XMP).Now this is not the case.If a person buys vengeance 1600C9 ram today by paying a premium for vengeance brand & simply install it into the system without doing anything else,he/she will be running it at 1333.In that thread the op clearly mentions that Mushkin ram he bought worked exactly as he wanted i.e.without doing anything on his part(aka XMP/manual timings) it ran at 1600 as advertised(note "advertised" not "technical specs" in a secondary link on product page).Also op stated in that thread that running vengeance 1600C9 ram at 1600 using XMP will result in slightly worse timings than a "true 1600 SPD ram" like Mushkin.
 
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chimera201

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^^That is the whole point.Vengeance is supposed to be a "performance ram" unlike their value series so if they are selling it by highlighting it as 1600C9 ram then it should be enabled by default automatically without any user intervention(aka JEDEC/SPD profile) & should not require manually activating XMP profile(or memory timings) to achieve the same.The point made in that thread was that a few years back Corsair did not do such things & a vengeance 1600C9 ram was exactly what it said without doing any thing on user's end(aka XMP).Now this is not the case.If a person buys vengeance 1600C9 ram today by paying a premium for vengeance brand & simply install it into the system without doing anything else,he/she will be running it at 1333.In that thread the op clearly mentions that Mushkin ram he bought worked exactly as he wanted i.e.without doing anything on his part(aka XMP/manual timings) it ran at 1600 as advertised(note "advertised" not "technical specs" in a secondary link on product page).Also op stated in that thread that running vengeance 1600C9 ram at 1600 using XMP will result in slightly worse timings than a "true 1600 SPD ram" like Mushkin.

If that's actually a problem reviewers would have called it out.


Corsair Vengeance Pro CMY32GX3M4A2800C12R
"Booting at DDR3-1333 CAS 9 and 1.50 V at SPD defaults, enthusiast-class motherboards should let you pick this kit's rated DDR3-2800 data rate at 12-14-14-36 timings via its 1.65 V XMP overclocking profile."


G.Skill RipjawsX F3-2400C11Q-32GXM
"We also get some encouragement from the 11-13-13-31 timings of this kit's DDR3-2400 rating, enabled by Intel’s XMP auto-overclocking technology. Prior to enabling that 1.65 V profile, these parts boot at DDR3-1333 CAS 9 and 1.50 V."
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
You are misunderstanding something here,it is not corsair's achievable performance but the deceptive marketing that is in question.Sure one can run Vengeance 1600CL9 ram at 1600 by using XMP but that's not the point.The point is why it is not by default without using XMP when the same model Vengeance units sold in earlier years could do the same.

P.S.I think I read in that thread that there are hardly any rams that can run over 1833 without using XMP.Basically there are hardly any rams with JEDEC/SPD profile of above 1833 & even 1833 JEDEC/SPD ram are difficult to find.
 
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